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Hell must've frozen over, because, even though I disagreed with Bitsy, she made very good points and stood up for her fellow Conservatives. And even though Barbara "OWNED" Bitsy, I felt bad for her when they came back from commercial break and it was so obvious she had been crying. Because, Lord knows if I was on THE VIEW(and I would kill to be a panelist), I would probably just as expressive as the rest of those women. And Barbara and Joy yell JUST as much as Bitsy does.

When Barbara consoled her and told her they like her and her passion for things, I was like, "Awwww!" But Barbara DID make a good point though: they have got to talk to each other without yelling over each other.

Hell, me and my group of college friends do that ALOT outside of the campus coffeeshop, talk about sex, politics, and drugs and we agree with each other sometimes. We talk over each other sometimes. We run people away from their tables with our gratuitious sex talks, etc. I think that is why I enjoy THE VIEW so much. Probably moreso in college than I did in Jr. High and HS. Because in college, everyone has an opinion and everyone comes from different backgrounds and views.

I just LOVE opinion shows. I like how people talk about the issues in the media, in the news. I like that there is a forum for people to watch these shows. With POLITICALLY INCORRECT off the air(yeah, I know Bill Maher's got the HBO show, but it ain't the same. Plain and simple.). THE VIEW, IMO, is the pretty much network TV's only place to see a group of people together hashing out a topic.

People always rag on THE VIEW, but think about it: THE VIEW tries to do a social service by educating and informing its audience. Yeah, they do fluff pieces, interviews, and entertainment. But THE VIEW tries to be as versatile as possible, in guests, topics, and co-hosts. I think ABC made a wise choice with that show. A lot more informative and fun than THE MIKE AND MATY SHOW(GAG ME AWFUL) or the talk show with the ladies from the sitcom MOMMIES.

My only concern with THE VIEW is that with Rosie coming on this fall, that the show will lose its edge. I mean, painting the set is already a shark jump. Why does the set need to have purple walls?

I want the show to still have Hot Topics. No Koosh Ball throwing or dry monologues. Because this is THE VIEW, not ROSIE.

Are you kidding me? Rosie's going to do koosh balls again?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

To tell you all the truth, I think abortion should be legal. Not only that, but I also think the father should have a choice in the matter. Now, I know that's kind of much, but if he can't have a say in the abortion decision, he should, under the right circumstances, be able to determine whether the baby should be given up for adoption. Equal rights, people!

Tell that to the baby who'll be born addicted to drugs, or the baby who'll have such severe deformities that there's virtually no chance for it to see its first birthday. Honestly, give me oblivion over severe pain.

DO. NOT. GO. THERE.

Interestingly, Danni, the mother doesn't know that the child won't like the life. So if we're truly pro-choice, let's let the CHILDREN decide if they want to live or die? Because, using your argument, that, really, is the only way to truly be pro-choice, pertaining to the child's best interest. (As if it's really about that these days).

Aww [!@#$%^&*]! Shits about to hit the fan!!!!!!!!!

I think things have been relatively tame for the discussion to be about this issue, Drew. The only thing that REALLY gets me pissed off is when someone says because I'm a man I don't have a say, or because it's not my body I don't have a say. Again, as a former fetus, I have a say. And because I don't believe a woman's unborn child is her 100 % property (because it isn't), men have a say. Fathers should have rights. Abortion is a sexist law. Yeah, I said it. Roe v. Wade is a SEXIST LAW. God, I hope someone whose girlfriend or wife has an abortion sues her for something like property damage or something off the wall like that and it could become a precedent, because this whole 'finders, keepers' mentality is ridiculous. Just because you're carrying something doesn't make it your property, to do with whatever you wish. Fathers are left out in the cold and it just pisses me off. It's sexist and it's wrong. And that, I say, is arguably the honest truth.

To tell you all the truth, I think abortion should be legal. Not only that, but I also think the father should have a choice in the matter. Now, I know that's kind of much, but if he can't have a say in the abortion decision, he should, under the right circumstances, be able to determine whether the baby should be given up for adoption. Equal rights, people!

Well, I don't think abortion should be legal but AMEN on the equal rights.

Get rid of this despicable, SEXIST law.

Oh, my god. I just watched the video.

Elisabeth ripped up her card after Babs reamed her out. I would rip up my card, too.

Babs, YOU were out of line. I just don't see how loud Elisabeth was. Sorry, I finally watched the clip, and I honestly don't get it. I've seen Joy be TEN times louder than that before. And all those women have gotten into it much louder and roudier than that.

Babs, you are FULL OF IT.

Elisabeth was fine.

Interestingly, Danni, the mother doesn't know that the child won't like the life. So if we're truly pro-choice, let's let the CHILDREN decide if they want to live or die? Because, using your argument, that, really, is the only way to truly be pro-choice, pertaining to the child's best interest. (As if it's really about that these days).

For 9 months a fetus doesn't really have a say. Mother's body, mother's choice.

And one thing, don't you even think of comparing abortion to slavery.

For 9 months a fetus doesn't really have a say. Mother's body, mother's choice.

And one thing, don't you even think of comparing abortion to slavery.

Mother's body; partial property. Not mother's choice (in a perfect world).

And I will compare it to slavery. It's no different. People had the gall to think that was okay back then, and people have the gall to think that killing their own kind, and their most innocent at that, is okay. Someone who was pro-slavery 'back then' would have told me not to call it a depraved, shameful act but that doesn't mean I'm not going to. Killing a BABY? I mean, come on, people. Just, come on! People can whip out the personal autonomy and 'my body, my choice' arguments as much as they want, but it won't change the fact that abortion is murder and people justify it, barring rape and incest, for SELFISH reasons. No one -- except, perhaps rape or incest victims -- NEEDS to have an abortion. And mothers certainly don't need to give themselves unspeakable grief after their abortions since it's not natural and goes against their maternal instincts, and just because some half-baked movement that supposedly was about equal rights (but really wasn't) convinced them that it's okay.

This is just becoming a retread of what was already said. Topic closed.