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6 hours ago, SadPim8696 said:

Funny, on other boards a lot of people are thinking this story shoiws that Brennan is sticking around for the long haul, and that he will redeem himself with Carly.

They're delusional. He's doomed. Brennan was always little more than a stopgap elevated dayplayer who was never going to last no matter who the actor, and FV is clearly all in on the latest Save Valentin project: Pairing him with Carly.

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2 minutes ago, Vee said:

They're delusional. He's doomed. Brennan was always little more than a stopgap elevated dayplayer who was never going to last no matter who the actor, and FV is clearly all in on the latest Save Valentin project: Pairing him with Carly.

I might be the only one around here who's really enjoying the Carly/Valentin scenes, but even I'm dubious about whether they have romantic chemistry. It feels more like Carly's hanging out with her pissy gay friend.

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53 minutes ago, prefab1 said:

I might be the only one around here who's really enjoying the Carly/Valentin scenes, but even I'm dubious about whether they have romantic chemistry. It feels more like Carly's hanging out with her pissy gay friend.

I loved him as Will on AMC- he was sexy, menacing, and did great work there. And Valentin is just such a drag.

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Gotta admit, I liked the way that things were set up today, basically for all hell to break loose during the blizzard. It's like a classic soap umbrella storyline. I'm looking forward to seeing it all play out, especially the Tracy/Gio/Emma adventure.

I'm not that big of a fan of Anna's storyline but the cliffhanger was really good.

Joss was just insufferable though, as always. And somebody really needs to tell her that it's "Spoon" not "Spewn" 😂😂

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5 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Oh God, I hope not.

If anything, they should be put in a triangle with Trina

Oh God, NO! Emma & Gio is good where they are at this point.

Need to bring back Spencer and resolve this Trina/Kai’s pairing.

Joss has been written too independent for far too long, Miss goodie shoe and very strong-willed which why her pairings are a total lackluster thus far. Something significant has to land on Joss, a bad boy tattooed character with a different ethnicity Hispanic or African-American.

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5 hours ago, titan1978 said:

The Stephen A stuff is the starf*cker in FV- a relic of the Frons days that any non-daytime celeb is a get.

Absolutely. As I said on PTV, Frank has always been enamored of celebrities who love the soaps. He would much rather keep playing Stephen A. regularly and have him threaded into story than have to write for most of the actual Black characters IMO. Let alone add any strong new ones. The show seems to actively resent the only dynamic actor in the older POC set (Brook Kerr).

I've said it too many times, but at this point I'd add someone like Cassandra Creech or whoever as Keesha Ward just to try to really fúck with the heads of the fanatical Jason fanbases lol. But unlike the '90s I'd be amazed if Great God Jason with a woman of color ever made it to air in these modern times so never mind. (And yes, Creech did play an assassin on GH for a hot minute in the 2000s.)

5 hours ago, titan1978 said:

Sonny became something they both had to survive around the time Michael went to jail and the show never picked that thread up fully because the logical conclusion was Sonny finally going to far and Jason having to kill him to protect everything else. It was a line I saw start during Sonny/Emily, and they picked it up again during Claudia and that tension was there until Guza was gone.

I agree. This building tension started around Emily and was very present in Guza II from then on, but they never pulled the trigger. The endpoint was obvious. It also might've led to Dante taking over the mob, something DZ has claimed was the long plan, but I am grateful that never happened. Same goes re: Michael.

But he still wanted it to be Robin when McCullough came back, and she was the one that didn’t want to be stuck in Sonny/Jason/Carly/Michael land again.

This has always stayed with me. Imagine the show if they'd ever broken the seal on that couple again (something I had hoped they might consider when Billy Miller arrived). I don't fault Kimberly for opting out though - the rise of Robin and Patrick (along with Grey's Anatomy) helped begin to fundamentally shift the show back to the hospital as a major hub, and despite fits and starts it's been back in a major way ever since.

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4 hours ago, titan1978 said:

That middle 2000’s GH was filled with personal stuff showing onscreen. The summer of sleeze, every aborted attempt at Jason/Liz, the stuff with Alcazar, MB and SB throwing their weight around and fighting everything from love scenes to costars.

Then we got to the last couple years of JFP/Guza and everyone was kind of defeatist about the show lasting much longer, and they were hanging on because the clock was ticking. Maurice and Tony Geary especially were in that camp.

I have my issues with Frank, but except for those on the outs or the ones that are a problem for him (Monaco for example) the actors and bts are not the den of vipers it used to be.

A lot of that period felt ugly. The show, the writing, the acting, even the fanbases. It wasn't entirely unwatchable just very contentious, and everyone was unhappy.

4 hours ago, titan1978 said:

The one thread I think Laura Wright has fully kept alive from SJB’s Carly is that I think she loves Jason in every way, not just as her friend. And I agree that thread just isn’t there as strongly for Jason. It started as love for Michael and a deeper relationship with Carly came along for the ride. Then it was his sense of honor about Sonny/Carly. Then it was because he truly loved Sam.

Sonny became something they both had to survive around the time Michael went to jail and the show never picked that thread up fully because the logical conclusion was Sonny finally going to far and Jason having to kill him to protect everything else. It was a line I saw start during Sonny/Emily, and they picked it up again during Claudia and that tension was there until Guza was gone.

The writing was always skewed that Jason was morally correct even though he was also an assassin, and both Sonny and Carly were capable of crossing that line. Which was always funny to me, that Jason was supposed to be the most honorable man in town while being a mob enforcer.

As far as Burton and SJB, it always read to me that he wanted Jason to be with the good girl, and in the case with the Brenda/Sam story- could fall in love with someone not so good if they were psychologically fragile and he rescued them. And that was never going to be Carly played by Sarah or Tamara. But he still wanted it to be Robin when McCullough came back, and she was the one that didn’t want to be stuck in Sonny/Jason/Carly/Michael land again.

Steve did seem to prefer being paired with "good girls"-and he never saw Carly as a viable love interest IMO.

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6 minutes ago, Vee said:

I don't fault Kimberly for opting out though - the rise of Robin and Patrick (along with Grey's Anatomy) helped begin to fundamentally shift the show back to the hospital as a major hub, and despite fits and starts it's been back in a major way ever since.

Robin having as much agency as she did and the resurgence of the hospital was a real bright spot for me from Guza/JFP. Unlike all the other needy women at the time, Robin dipped into that a little here and there but for the most part wasn’t played the same as pretty much all the other women on the show at that time. Yes she was in a romance with Patrick but it wasn’t layered with the same misogyny that was there for Carly, Emily, Sam, Liz, etc. they were all so focused only on the men in their lives. I felt like they were equals and both the focus of the Hospital universe.

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Just now, titan1978 said:

Unlike all the other needy women at the time, Robin dipped into that a little here and there but for the most part wasn’t played the same as pretty much all the other women on the show at that time. Yes she was in a romance with Patrick but it wasn’t layered with the same misogyny that was there for Carly, Emily, Sam, Liz, etc. they were all so focused only on the men in their lives. I felt like they were equals and both the focus of the Hospital universe.

It had its issues at times. Someone on staff clearly wished they could try him with LW/Carly and kept going back to that friendship, and there were a few too many scenes of people like Anna and others telling Robin how lucky she was to have landed a hunk like Patrick, how grateful she should be and not screw it up, etc. But they knew they couldn't touch her and that she was still very popular, so there were a lot of these sort of passive-aggressive swipes at her where possible. But for the most part, yes I totally agree she was in a golden place. And probably would have stayed longer on contract, if not for Garin Wolf.

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10 hours ago, carolineg said:

Wasn't Vaughn sent elsewhere? On another assignment or something as punishment? Or did I make that up lol?

I didn't think about Vaughn in relation to Joss's idiotic plot, so he obviously didn't leave much of an impression. It's typical GH to start something and abandon it with a whimper and little thought. Anyhow, I won't lose sleep over it.

Unfortunately, that means the show will probably have to hire another love interest for Joss soon or worse they throw her in a triangle with Gio/Emma!

I figured Gio was brought in for Joss or they had already been planning a triangle with Emma and Gio and Joss so I am always expecting that to come around again.

The only thing I ever remember about Vaughn is the actor's modeling portfolio.

9 hours ago, prefab1 said:

Even though I'm mostly enjoying the show right now, I feel like all the BTS dramas and contract issues are really impeding its ability to give us hot romantic pairings we might root for. I know not everyone on this board will miss Vaughn, but I will, because he's one of the very few guys on this show who was sexy while having a more dangerous, roguish edge. (Some of the other guys on the show in his age range have good bodies but are not sexy at all, unless you have a fetish for self-righteous overgrown Boy Scouts).

Similarly, they tanked Brennan/Carly when Charles Mesure left and they replaced him with a friend-of-Frank who might as well have been playing a totally different character. Chris McKenna might be a nice guy, but he lacks the twinkle Mesure had in his eyes, his Antipodean accent, and his chemistry with Laura Wright. And don't get me started on how Ric Hearst, who has amazing chemistry with several different actresses on the show, has been MIA for several weeks.

I don't think Brennan/Carly would have lasted even with Measure, because the powers that be don't seem to know how to write any Carly pairing, maybe due to resenting that they never get the Jason/Carly pairing they want (and one I wanted...back in 1998, not now).

The show definitely wastes Ric Hearst, they could have done more with Ava or with Liz (even if I don't think Liz would ever get involved with him again), or even Alexis, but Ric has a lot going on in his life and lives on the East Coast so I imagine that may be why he hasn't been on of late.

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