1 hour ago, Cheap21 said:

QUEEN!

She said what she said.

33 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

I OOPS.

❤️

39 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

I OOPS.

5 minutes ago, Maxim said:

She said what she said.

❤️

Change of plans! Honestly this is a way to extend her life on this show. She decides she wants more than money but rather the power and respect and actually listens to Joey and works with him to help get Bill elected so she becomes First Lady of FC. That has so much more potential for mess especially if people look into her past. Id love to see how she does damage control and cleans up her image

2 minutes ago, Cheap21 said:

Change of plans! Honestly this is a way to extend her life on this show. She decides she wants more than money but rather the power and respect and actually listens to Joey and works with him to help get Bill elected so she becomes First Lady of FC. That has so much more potential for mess especially if people look into her past. Id love to see how she does damage control and cleans up her image

Sounds marvelous.

18 minutes ago, Maxim said:

She said what she said.

❤️

Hehe. Very.

10 minutes ago, Cheap21 said:

Change of plans! Honestly this is a way to extend her life on this show. She decides she wants more than money but rather the power and respect and actually listens to Joey and works with him to help get Bill elected so she becomes First Lady of FC. That has so much more potential for mess especially if people look into her past. Id love to see how she does damage control and cleans up her image

Hehe. I'm down for that!!! A hot mess!!

8 minutes ago, Maxim said:

Sounds marvelous.

Heeeey Alexis!!!

This 12-18 episode is more to my liking. I was worried there for a second.

Two things I like (okay three)...

Anita's story starting to have some build and loving her scene with Andre.

Yassssssssss to Marcel matching SPS's energy and his flirt game is ON...POINT.

Hayley looked BOSS.

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!! The holler I just let out before work when I saw the look on The Hamilton Widow © @Maxim 's face when Bill told her to get off the birth control.

She really don't like that man!!!

6 minutes ago, Taoboi said:

HAHAHAHAHAH!!!! The holler I just let out before work when I saw the look on The Hamilton Widow © @Maxim 's face when Bill told her to get off the birth control.

She really don't like that man!!!

I think it's time she googles (publicly while someone is standing over her of course) - "rat poison on sale".

12 hours ago, ReddFoxx said:

I don't have an issue with people not liking the show, it's the trolling vibes I don't like.

Basically. I have no problem with harsh critique of this show, since I have some of my own lol. And get some in my texts everyday from a certain friend! But it's axe-grinding for other reasons (or that one fanfic guy) I don't have much patience for.

Take one example: When Soapsuds doesn't like a show for whatever reason, and decides other people are putting on pretentious airs for watching something he doesn't like, he spends his time plastering the threads with comments replying to virtually every post or thread about it that seem bent on shaming people for even watching or finding merit in it. This is not the first show where he's done this, it's been an issue on the forum long before BTG existed. Yet he's there everyday for some of the worst subhuman slop DAYS and B&B have historically had to offer so long as enough twinks are onscreen. And hey, that's his business; I don't go in those threads demanding he stop watching. But he makes a different choice.

Then there's the occasional handful of posters who will semi-regularly make these grand pronouncements in these threads about how BTG threads can't handle legitimate criticism, while the show gets regular heat daily in here. Like, c'mon. This is not that serious. If you have valid complaints I am here for it. But if you're here because of the above, or because you want to free the one white guy on the show you've been publicly obsessing over for years from Martin, I am going to side-eye. I just don't have time for that in the mid-2020s. We got enough to deal with. Happy holidays, y'all.

Edited 4 hours ago4 hr by Vee

1 hour ago, Vee said:

Basically. I have no problem with harsh critique of this show, since I have some of my own lol. And get some in my texts everyday from a certain friend! But it's axe-grinding for other reasons (or that one fanfic guy) I don't have much patience for.

Take one example: When Soapsuds doesn't like a show for whatever reason, and decides other people are putting on pretentious airs for watching something he doesn't like, he spends his time plastering the threads with comments replying to virtually every post or thread about it that seem bent on shaming people for even watching or finding merit in it. This is not the first show where he's done this, it's been an issue on the forum long before BTG existed. Yet he's there everyday for some of the worst subhuman slop DAYS and B&B have historically had to offer so long as enough twinks are onscreen. And hey, that's his business; I don't go in those threads demanding he stop watching. But he makes a different choice.

Then there's the occasional handful of posters who will semi-regularly make these grand pronouncements in these threads about how BTG threads can't handle legitimate criticism, while the show gets regular heat daily in here. Like, c'mon. This is not that serious. If you have valid complaints I am here for it. But if you're here because of the above, or because you want to free the one white guy on the show you've been publicly obsessing over for years from Martin, I am going to side-eye. I just don't have time for that in the mid-2020s. We got enough to deal with. Happy holidays, y'all.

You, in particular, act like the gatekeeper of this thread. But as you say, it's not that serious.

I had some good exchanges with other posters in this thread who may not agree with my POV, but respected it. So maybe one of my resolutions will be to give BTG another chance, so you can be spared any more "grand pronouncements." Up until yesterday, I kept my thoughts to myself because I don't want to bring down the thread. But now, I'll let you know in real time just what I think.

Happy Holidays, Vee.

On 12/18/2025 at 11:29 AM, Vanguardian53 said:

Darlene "The Invisible Woman" Hawthorne is a ridiculous character to be utilizing the way that they're using her. She currently exists on canvas, but not in plain sight, as the wife of the Chief of Police and mother to the three Hawthorne sons. She supposedly just had a dinner date with Jacob and Izaiah and she shares a home with her husband Elon. Why are they utilizing this character without a face in the role? Mentioning Luke is much easier because he's not in close proximity. But Darlene lives, works, and interacts with her family without a visible presence. At this point, at least hire a quick day player actress to play her.

Big agree. The same can be said for a handful of never-seen-yet-often-mentioned characters.

On 12/19/2025 at 1:36 AM, ranger1rg said:

For months, Leslie's obsession with Ted was everywhere. Now she seems over him and talks about how he played with her emotions. Now she's chasing someone else.

Bill shape shifts constantly. He's tough and he's soft. He's smart and he's gullible and naive. He wants a young hot wife and he wants a baby. He is over Dani and he's not over Dani.

You just reminded me that Leslie and Ted were making small steps (the clinical trial, Thanksgiving at Orphey's together), before she shifted to Marcel. However I like Leslie and Marcel together a lot.

As for Bill - yeah, the writers still haven't decided what THE FIXER's personality is.

18 hours ago, Vee said:

Contrary to popular belief, responding to every single thread and post will not cancel the show for you sooner and free up more airtime for barely legal twinks.

*White twinks lol

Random comments:

• God, are the writers obsessed with Dani & Andre or what? I feel they're on non-stop. And all they do is have mind-blowing sex.

• I'm enjoying Anita's storyline but her heavy make-up during the biopsy took me out of the scene. I don't see the problem in ridding Anita of that drag queen makeup and horrendous wig.

• I don't think Anita hiding her exams from Vernon was a soap cliché. That's what most sensible family members do.

• Ted and Shanice are like watching paint dry. Actually Ted is a failed character.

• Speaking of failing couples, Chelsea and Madison are an afterthought.

• Can't wait for the next big secret & reveals concerning Andre and, why not, Kial!

• The whole thing with Vanessa crawling for Joey, on a show that's supposedly all about women power is hard to explain.

• Bill's involvement in politics (manouvred by Joey of course) came OUTTA NOWHERE.

• OF COURSE Hayley/Val has an alias! I swear all MVJ can do is write secrets, reveals and aliases.

• I'm enjoying Tracey Thomson's influence on the show, but yeah, it needs more movement and more stakes.

Edited 2 hours ago2 hr by Aback

6 minutes ago, Aback said:

*White twinks lol

Writers:
Sara A. Bibel
Lynn Martin

Director:
Steven Williford

Chelsea "Instead of humoring the HO HO HO" LMFAO

Andre and his twin came dressed in similar colors. I just realized mother and daughter married men that look alike. If this was B&B and Dani was Brooke, she'd "accidentally" have sex with Jacob

17 minutes ago, Cheap21 said:

Andre and his twin came dressed in similar colors. I just realized mother and daughter married men that look alike. If this was B&B and Dani was Brooke, she'd "accidentally" have sex with Jacob

MVJ did work on B & B... so wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that happens a long way down the line.