BTG: March 2025 Discussion Thread

I think for sure they're going to make Eva Ted's daughter. Like others have said it makes the Eva/Kat rivalry that much jucier, it anchors Eva to an existing family and to an extent Leslie because otherwise where do you take Eva and Leslie story wise. 

Oooo at Anita and Vernon double teaming the community to bury what Dani did.

 

Hehe at Vanessa and Dani...they are such a good friendship team.

 

Mmmmmm DIEGO...

 

Jon Lindstrom!!!!

 

 

19 minutes ago, janea4old said:

P&G page on LGBQT+ inclusion -- this is the products, not the studios, but still...
https://us.pg.com/lgbtq-visibility/

 

19 minutes ago, Vee said:

I think what's really pertinent is that several years after that quote CBS did do LGBT stories, and they did feature physical intimacy (kissing, etc). So I don't see any evidence that anyone is keeping BTG from doing that here.

These are fair points, but I don't blame those who are skeptical given the corporate track record. For now I am keeping an open mind given that the Martin/Smitty story is about a relationship breakdown. They aren't going to be affectionate at this time. I don't find myself rooting for the couple at this point anyway. I'm kinda hoping that Smitty books a workout with Diego.

Nosy nurse is giving me back with her background reactions.

 

Ooooo Kat stays shading Eva's fashion. And I continue to like Chelesa being the only one outside of Nicole to call her out.

 

Hey, Ted, hey!!! mmmmmm

38 minutes ago, Alan said:

PGP is a different entity from P&G Studios and a lot of social changes have taken place over twenty years but we have to be honest about PGP's track record of homophobia.

"We don't need that kind of controversy, because we might lose viewers. 'All My Children' is doing a gay story line right now, and -- how shall I put this? -- the ratings haven't gone up."

-Mary Alice Dwyer Dobbin, "Oakdale Days," New Yorker Magazine 2002

P&G handed oversight of their dramas to MADD for a decade. No, she is no longer at P&G but we need to set the record straight.

Yes, when she retired PGP opted to do away with her position, Executive in Charge of Production. Both Ellen Wheeler at GL & Chris Goutman at ATWT were forced to deal with CBS without the buffer previous EPs had in place.

And, of course, absolutely so much time has passed. We live in a different world. 

Lord...Silk Press and this wig...

 

Not Beyonce catching a stray...

Leslie is so over the top. Lol at her acting like she's going to jump off the roof. And I guess she can't be Silk Press Sheila anymore because she changed her hair.

Bill having Dani arrested is only going to keep the feud going. Once again she was ready to move on and she has been pushed away from moving on again. The daughters are certainly going to hate him for having their mother arrested, but then again he may have set it up to make Naomi's husband take all the blame.

 

Awwww Anita, Naomi, and the piano.

 

Lord...Dani look crazy.

posted this on another board: 

‘what did smitty ever see in martin?’ 

that is the question! 

unless smitty is some kind of masochist who needs to be dominated and humiliated (and, who knows —  there’s already been a three-way:),  i cannot believe that martin has always treated him with such contempt and abuse. 

so, what i want to know (well, what i would like to see and not be told) is how, and why, their relationship has deteriorated to this point. unfortunately, saddling them with college-aged teenagers, means that the only way viewers will find out with be is a lot of exposition, and maybe some flashbacks (generally not a fan of flashbacks, though the one with dani and bill after naomi’s wedding was well done, and contextualized dani’s behavior). 

now, had they introduced martin and smitty at an earlier point in the relationship, we could have seen how two educated, intelligent, ambitious gay men navigate the challenges and trade-off starting a family entails — who agreed to do what — and then watch has the inevitable conflicts unfold.

and — the age questions go away — a win-win! 

Edited March 7Mar 7 by wonderwoman1951

 

Hahahaha forceful use of a golf club!!!!!!

Yassss at the model walks that turned into a nice family moment.

Wait, what? A woman on the roof!!!

 

Oh, Lord, Silk Press Sheila...with a music cue and everything. smh. lol.

 

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!!!!!!!!! Jacob has to arrest Dani. Well, I know several here wanted her arrested so hehe. Ugh Bill. Just could not leave her alone. Le sigh. 

 

OOooo at that next week promo. @Cheap21 she really IS Black Sheila Carter!!! lol. And I gasp at the Ted scene. 

Looks like Teddy Bear has got some explaining to do. I always find it funny how a potential cheater wants to threaten the person they cheated with. Really Ted?

26 minutes ago, wonderwoman1951 said:

now, had they introduced martin and smitty at an earlier point in the relationship, we could have seen how two educated, intelligent, ambitious gay men navigate the challenges and trade-off starting a family entails — who agreed to do what — and then watch has the inevitable conflicts unfold.

and — the age questions go away — a win-win! 

Vanessa mentioning today that she is an empty nester just further hit home how aged-up the entire cast of characters is. Given BTG's emphasis on families and inter-generational relationships, the lack of any characters under 16 is a head-scratcher. I'm sure there must be a reason, but I can't figure it out yet.

1 minute ago, Vanguardian53 said:

Looks like Teddy Bear has got some explaining to do. I always find it funny how a potential cheater wants to threaten the person they cheated with. Really Ted?

I still think Leslie is lying about her connection to Ted. And the lie is somehow related to Andre's parents. Besides, making Ted and Bill both cheaters would be overkill, wouldn't it?

It's great that soaps are employing authors and playwrights as writers on the soaps since they tend to offer a fresh perspective and lord knows soap operas need some new perspectives.

So Christopher Dunn did the breakdown and Danielle Paige did the script writing.  She's written for soaps in the past (GL), and has written novels that offer new spins on classic characters (Dorothy from Wizard of Oz) so I'll be intrigued to see what future episodes written by her will be like.

First thing is that she offered up two very good cliffhangers.

Eva vs Kat still well done, and I liked the reality check both Nicole & Chelsea gave to Kat.  Kat is correct about Eva, but she's going about things in the wrong way.  And Eva seems conflicted because she's finding that Nicole and Ted seem like nice people.

Now the new hair on 'Leslie' is probably what she looked like back when she knew Ted so she's doing this stunt in order to show herself to Ted.

Vanessa/Doug had some focus with the two being empty nesters and the love/romance no longer in their relationship and now both are keeping things from the other.   Sounds like Doug has a gambling addiction and it looks as though Joey (Hello Jon L!) knows this and will use that to get Doug under his thumb.   I have a feeling Vanessa coming from money might be a factor in their plans of sorts.

I have a feeling son in law Jacob won't be popular at any future Dupree gatherings and this is sure to put extra strain on his marriage to Naomi.

Lastly, I noticed that there was some character propping being done with Super Nurse Ashley yesterday... and it was a classic example of telling us what we should think about a character instead of letting the audience decide for themselves what they think of Ashley.

Edited March 7Mar 7 by Soaplovers

39 minutes ago, wonderwoman1951 said:

posted this on another board: 

‘what did smitty ever see in martin?’ 

that is the question! 

unless smitty is some kind of masochist who needs to be dominated and humiliated (and, who knows —  there’s already been a three-way:),  i cannot believe that martin has always treated him with such contempt and abuse. 

so, what i want to know (well, what i would like to see and not be told) is how, and why, their relationship has deteriorated to this point. unfortunately, saddling them with college-aged teenagers, means that the only way viewers will find out with be is a lot of exposition, and maybe some flashbacks (generally not a fan of flashbacks, though the one with dani and bill after naomi’s wedding was well done, and contextualized dani’s behavior). 

now, had they introduced martin and smitty at an earlier point in the relationship, we could have seen how two educated, intelligent, ambitious gay men navigate the challenges and trade-off starting a family entails — who agreed to do what — and then watch has the inevitable conflicts unfold.

and — the age questions go away — a win-win! 

I feel like they've already addressed this. From the beginning they let us know something is off about Martin, that he killed someone which is doesn't remember and the he has nightmares. Obviously the Martin we're seeing is a Martin with a lot of issues stemming from that incident. I think once he deals with that we will get a better idea of who Smitty fell in love with and who the family seems to adore.

Kudos to Danielle Paige on a great friday script! I feel like this flowed much better than yesterdays episode and the show is developing a nice rhythm to it. At first I questioned why certain characters were included but I feel like each player makes sense within the world and they're doing a good job of slowly introducing them. I like that it took until Week 2 to really start diving into who Jacob was and of course today we just met Jon Lindstrom's character. We still have yet to really see the Tomas character and he's on contract. It's nice to know we still have people to meet.

Kat vs Eva continues to be a delight and I enjoyed the rooftop scenes with Kat and Chelsea. That relationship is going a long way to humanize Kat and keep her from appearing too judgmental when it comes to Eva.

Silk Press Sheila in her first disguise had me in stiches. You could never make me hate her. I'm sorry Nicole, but this is my girl!

Next week looks even better. I also have to say the lighting has improved tremendously which is so nice to see. I was worried about that ultra-bright light from the promos and the pilot but I'm glad they worked through that. The actors and the sets look much better now.