@Vee Thanks. Clearly I only ever remembered that she dated a football player. I agree this story is weaker. Part of the issue is I think Trina outgrew this type of storyline through her pairing with Spencer and crossing swords with Cassadines. I'm not saying she should be thrown into major drama and trauma, but being on a B or C-level in this freewheeling college football story is a waste.

I feel like the show still is mostly using Sasha in some semblance of support (with Cody today, worrying for Michael, etc.), although if we are heading towards her being Jason's love interest (I hope not) that would change. It would be more interesting to me if all of his losses led him to start becoming too fixated on her pregnancy only to pull back and realize he is repeating the old habits that led Michael to where he is now.

Losing a solid friendship for a measuring contest would definitely be a bad idea. The show's going to need to work to rebuild Lulu/Dante and throwing Cody in won't do that. 

I didn't even realize until yesterday they were hinting at Martin/Tracy. I knew they'd never do Tracy/Cody but it would interest me much more. Even if MEK is no longer talking like Foghorn Leghorn, I still just see him slumming through a non-part. 

Edited January 16Jan 16 by DRW50

2 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I didn't even realize until yesterday they were hinting at Martin/Tracy. I knew they'd never do Tracy/Cody but it would interest me much more. Even if MEK is no longer talking like Foghorn Leghorn, I still just see him slumming through a non-part. 

I would suggest if they wrote Marty better, they'd be nicely surprised at the results.

I keep seeing people refer to Wiley as a "toddler", and my response is: in what fücking universe is Wiley a toddler?! SMFH... some people, whew.

15 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I didn't even realize until yesterday they were hinting at Martin/Tracy. I knew they'd never do Tracy/Cody but it would interest me much more. Even if MEK is no longer talking like Foghorn Leghorn, I still just see him slumming through a non-part. 

I think MEK was much more energized (and sexy) when he had the beard and the accent. Without them he's just a variation on Sad Later Years Tad to me. I miss them, but I still don't want him with Tracy. At all. It's another round of this regime's usual Slot A into Tab B 'romance' for veterans which also brought us Robert and Diane, or Maxie and Austin which I had to have explained in detail to prove it somehow actually happened (mostly mercifully offscreen).

I do think Dominic and Alexa have major chemistry. Their clashing scenes in Prague and back at the Qs prove that, and she's nowhere near as hard as Julie Berman so it plays more fun. But I am fine with them waiting it out. I would not put Cody and Sasha back together unless it's time to cut costs and tighten belts to lose both, in which case I would have it turn out Holly lied yet again because of some bad guy she fúcked, and then you could write them out happily ever after. I would at least give Sasha a HEA with someone, as boring as I find her in a lead role. I can understand some of the appeal.

Just now, Liberty City said:

I keep seeing people refer to Wiley as a "toddler", and my response is: in what fücking universe is Wiley a toddler?! SMFH... some people, whew.

He definitely comes off like one.

1 minute ago, Vee said:

He definitely comes off like one.

Writing they definitely have kept him in the younger mindset, which a lot of us are sometimes. I know I was. But, Wiley is turning nine this year. That is not a toddler. Amelia would be the toddler.

5 minutes ago, Vee said:

I think MEK was much more energized (and sexy) when he had the beard and the accent. Without them he's just a variation on Sad Later Years Tad to me. I miss them, but I still don't want him with Tracy. At all. It's another round of this regime's usual Slot A into Tab B 'romance' for veterans which also brought us Robert and Diane, or Maxie and Austin which I had to have explained in detail to prove it somehow actually happened (mostly mercifully offscreen).

I keep forgetting Diane and Robert were a long-term pairing. She never seemed like his type...but like you said it doesn't matter to the show.

I think MEK looked nice with the beard. I almost wish they'd just brought him in as Tad as that's probably who we are going to think of anyway. I wonder if I'd be more involved if not for the convoluted story of being Laura's brother. I appreciated that they had Lulu say Laura might be fond of him but she's not, as that's the logical reaction. She was saying this because of Valentin but I just take it as - GTFO insta-uncle. 

(I don't know how Lucky reacted to him - have they interacted?)

I guess I should try to track down the scenes of Lesley being tormented over her past by Cyrus, as I do want to see what may be Denise Alexander's last time as Lesley, but it doesn't sound very good. 

I don't know why they didn't just bring in some Vinings we never heard of if they wanted to give Laura new family.

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4 minutes ago, Vee said:

I do think Dominic and Alexa have major chemistry. Their clashing scenes in Prague and back at the Qs prove that, and she's nowhere near as hard as Julie Berman so it plays more fun. But I am fine with them waiting it out. I would not put Cody and Sasha back together unless it's time to cut costs and tighten belts to lose both, in which case I would have it turn out Holly lied yet again because of some bad guy she fúcked, and then you could write them out happily ever after. I would at least give Sasha a HEA with someone, as boring as I find her in a lead role. I can understand some of the appeal.

It wouldn't surprise me if Sasha's parentage was retconned [again], but I don't see them doing that.

Just now, DRW50 said:

I guess I should try to track down the scenes of Lesley being tormented over her past by Cyrus, as I do want to see what may be Denise Alexander's last time as Lesley, but it doesn't sound very good. 

I don't know why they didn't just bring in some Vinings we never heard of if they wanted to give Laura new family.

I don't mind Laura having a brother, but it's always seemed like an odd relationship and it's never been mined in the right ways for me. They say the names (Gordon Grey, etc.) but it feels very awkward. Martin keeps calling her 'sister' and I don't believe it because I don't feel the material digs deep enough.

I did watch some of the stuff with Lesley and just found it silly. Martin and Cyrus howling at each other about how Cyrus backed over their dad in the driveway with the family car, and old wizened Cyrus wailing that it was an accident - I am not making this up. I could not care less. That's this regime's weird schizophrenic approach to pathos with their arch-villains, which I am sure they will repeat with Sidwell soon (probably by making him Natalia's ex and father to her kids).

1 minute ago, Liberty City said:

Writing they definitely have kept him in the younger mindset, which a lot of us are sometimes. I know I was. But, Wiley is turning nine this year. That is not a toddler. Amelia would be the toddler.

Considering James and Wiley are the same age or at least the actors are, Wiley comes off about 5 honestly.  Not a toddler, but definitely not like a regular 9 year old kid.

3 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

It wouldn't surprise me if Sasha's parentage was retconned [again], but I don't see them doing that.

Neither do I, but a man can dream.

Just now, carolineg said:

Considering James and Wiley are the same age or at least the actors are, Wiley comes off about 5 honestly.  Not a toddler, but definitely not like a regular 9 year old kid.

Exactly. I'm not convinced that kid in the role is more than 8.

2 minutes ago, Vee said:

Exactly. I'm not convinced that kid in the role is more than 8.

I don't think the little boy that plays Wiley is as natural as the actor that plays James, but the way the family and Willow/Michael speak to and about Wiley makes him seem much younger.

4 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I don't think the little boy that plays Wiley is as natural as the actor that plays James, but the way the family and Willow/Michael speak to and about Wiley makes him seem much younger.

Calling either of them actors would be a stretch, but James is at least more charming.

9 minutes ago, Vee said:

I don't mind Laura having a brother, but it's always seemed like an odd relationship and it's never been mined in the right ways for me. They say the names (Gordon Grey, etc.) but it feels very awkward. Martin keeps calling her 'sister' and I don't believe it because I don't feel the material digs deep enough.

I did watch some of the stuff with Lesley and just found it silly. Martin and Cyrus howling at each other about how Cyrus backed over their dad in the driveway with the family car, and old wizened Cyrus wailing that it was an accident - I am not making this up. I could not care less. That's this regime's weird schizophrenic approach to pathos with their arch-villains, which I am sure they will repeat with Sidwell soon (probably by making him Natalia's ex and father to her kids).

Thanks. I'll probably skip it until Cyrus is actually gone. 

1 minute ago, Vee said:

Calling either of them actors would be a stretch, but James is at least more charming.

Well, James is at least believable as a 9 year old child.  I wonder why the show cast such a shy little boy to play Wiley.  Even Dylan Cash had more charisma and you know how I feel about Dylan Cash.

14 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Considering James and Wiley are the same age or at least the actors are, Wiley comes off about 5 honestly.  Not a toddler, but definitely not like a regular 9 year old kid.

Some of us are a bit more innocently-minded than others.

14 minutes ago, Vee said:

Neither do I, but a man can dream.

Exactly. I'm not convinced that kid in the role is more than 8.

He's nine. 😬