Just now, carolineg said:

Good question.  I have a tendency to fill in gaps on small things in my own head when watching GH or Days so I just assumed someone was watching Wiley. I suppose there could have been adjoining rooms. 

I think I am giving Willow/Drew way too much credit.  They did have sex in a playroom with a nanny cam so they really don't care about anyone else.  Everyone keeps harping on Willow bringing Wiley over state lines, but no character has really asked where Scout or Wiley were while Willow/Drew were hooking up.

Wiley was alone from my POV; on the January 8 episode, Willow stated: "I should get back to my room. I don't want Wiley to awake up and wonder where I am."

And my other question is: how did everyone know Drew/Willow hooked up in D.C.? That's a bold assumption. True, but bold. Especially when Willow's plans were to be in D.C. for Drew's swearing in prior to the reveal of their affair.

4 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

Wiley was alone from my POV; on the January 8 episode, Willow stated: "I should get back to my room. I don't want Wiley to awake up and wonder where I am."

And my other question is: how did everyone know Drew/Willow hooked up in D.C.? That's a bold assumption. True, but bold. Especially when Willow's plans were to be in D.C. for Drew's swearing in prior to the reveal of their affair.

Oh, I am sure you are right.  I just really thought Willow wasn't stupid enough to leave her young son alone in a hotel room for half the night.

I was wondering the same about everyone thinking they hooked up in DC.  I guess everyone just assumed that's what happened and Willow/Drew didn't really deny it.   If you didn't plan to continue the affair Willow would have canceled the trip to try to save her marriage or at least play it cool for a custody case.  

Honestly, if Wiley really had to go I am sure Willow could have arranged for Nina to take him and possibly actually got Michael's permission.  It's unlikely Michael would have said yes.  It just would have been the best way to go about it.  Willow's intentions were clear once she decided she had to attend. 

I am just counting down the days until she finds out about Nina/Drew, has no lover, no friends, no husband, and no kids.  I hope Willow turns evil.

17 minutes ago, carolineg said:

Oh, I am sure you are right.  I just really thought Willow wasn't stupid enough to leave her young son alone in a hotel room for half the night.

Well, I wouldn't put much past her. She's never been as smart as her sister, Nelle.

18 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I was wondering the same about everyone thinking they hooked up in DC.  I guess everyone just assumed that's what happened and Willow/Drew didn't really deny it.   If you didn't plan to continue the affair Willow would have canceled the trip to try to save her marriage or at least play it cool for a custody case.

Well, didn't she try and not go, and Drew put up the defense of she was already planning on going, so why change the plans? And that Scout would have someone to hangout with? Messy, messy, messy.

19 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I am just counting down the days until she finds out about Nina/Drew, has no lover, no friends, no husband, and no kids.  I hope Willow turns evil.

I don't think Katelyn MacMullen could play evil; she can play nasty (as we saw with her vs. Chloe Lanier's Nelle), but I don't think she could handle evil. I don't believe she has the range to capture that. Plus, with the way Willow's been written since day one, she's too "good" for that. I still have visions of other actors playing Willow over the years, including Jen Lilley, who could have provided a bit more depth to the role. Although, I know she wouldn't have done it in the first place, given her feelings of being on that set and overall demeanor of doing daytime full-time.

28 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I am just counting down the days until she finds out about Nina/Drew, 

I know many fans automatically figured this would be the big reveal of Feb. sweeps. 

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8 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

Well, didn't she try and not go, and Drew put up the defense of she was already planning on going, so why change the plans? And that Scout would have someone to hangout with? Messy, messy, messy.

I felt it was a really weak attempt not to go and she wanted Drew to convince her otherwise.  This story really had the potential to be so good with the addition of Nina.  It just hasn't been executed well.  The build up to Willow/Drew wasn't good enough, the reveal of the affair was mistimed, making it a love match was a silly choice too.  Drew should be still seeing Nina on the side.  Willow should lose everything and find out Drew was just two timing and deceiving her.  Now, I am sure the Nina/Drew reveal will be okay, but it could have been so much better. Obviously losing Chad isn't ideal either so I have a feeling this story will kind of just fizzle out and not have a great conclusion.

18 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

I don't think Katelyn MacMullen could play evil; she can play nasty (as we saw with her vs. Chloe Lanier's Nelle), but I don't think she could handle evil. I don't believe she has the range to capture that. 

I think KM is mostly adequate.  I agree I don't know if she has the range.  She really hasn't been given the material to try though.   I honestly have no problem with the show ditching Willow all together.  There isn't much tying her to the canvas anymore.

2 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I felt it was a really weak attempt not to go and she wanted Drew to convince her otherwise.  This story really had the potential to be so good with the addition of Nina.  It just hasn't been executed well.  The build up to Willow/Drew wasn't good enough, the reveal of the affair was mistimed, making it a love match was a silly choice too.  Drew should be still seeing Nina on the side.  Willow should lose everything and find out Drew was just two timing and deceiving her.  Now, I am sure the Nina/Drew reveal will be okay, but it could have been so much better. Obviously losing Chad isn't ideal either so I have a feeling this story will kind of just fizzle out and not have a great conclusion.

It was weak; she was so lax in being all coy about not going because it could hinder the look of Drew's campaign⏤not the look of her marriage, knowing Nina had contacted Martin about divorcing Michael. Honestly, the concept of Drew/Willow was slightly intriguing with Patrick Mulcahey was building it as a completely messy triangle with Nina and, once he left, Elizabeth Korte & Chris Van Etten removed Nina (outside of mentions by others) and just let it be what it's become: messy (and not the good kind of messy).

Chad Duell's exit, I am sure, spun things a bit, but I also don't believe Korte/Van Etten and their team had material thought of in-advance that required much changing. Their regime, like previous ones, feels off-the-cuff and with no long-term investment of development of any kind.

5 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I think KM is mostly adequate.  I agree I don't know if she has the range.  She really hasn't been given the material to try though.   I honestly have no problem with the show ditching Willow all together.  There isn't much tying her to the canvas anymore.

Honestly, my ultimate choice would be for Willow to exit, alongside Drew and their children, to D.C. and to never be mentioned of again. The way Drew went from one of my favourites (due to the work of Billy Miller) to one of my least favourites is laughable. And, I kept an open-mind, re: Cameron Mathison from the moment he was cast. But, let's be real: Drew (like AJ) was brought in to fill the void of Steve Burton's exits as Jason (even Miller was a superior Jason).

1 hour ago, Liberty City said:

Honestly, my ultimate choice would be for Willow to exit, alongside Drew and their children, to D.C. and to never be mentioned of again. The way Drew went from one of my favourites (due to the work of Billy Miller) to one of my least favourites is laughable. And, I kept an open-mind, re: Cameron Mathison from the moment he was cast. But, let's be real: Drew (like AJ) was brought in to fill the void of Steve Burton's exits as Jason (even Miller was a superior Jason).

I agree.  I don't know where you go with either character now.  They've alienated themselves from the entire canvas basically.  Sure, the fallout can go on for awhile, but I don't know where you take them next.   I'd give both characters a nice long break in Washington.

I would have a murder mystery for Drew. I think there's more for Willow if they play her as a schemer and bitch hiding behind a nice facade, maybe teaming up with Nina to notch some wins against Carly and the PC establishment, but meanwhile her resentment toward Nina builds and builds. Then I would have Nina be the one, finally seeing how much Willow truly wants to destroy her, who ultimately exposes her and sends her packing. 

Not sure what I'd do with Nina after that. Maybe she would have a breakdown and start all over. 

15 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I agree.  I don't know where you go with either character now.  They've alienated themselves from the entire canvas basically.  Sure, the fallout can go on for awhile, but I don't know where you take them next.   I'd give both characters a nice long break in Washington.

Mhmm. Off to Washington, D.C. and never to be heard from, ever again! Please!!

3 hours ago, carolineg said:

I hope Willow turns evil.

well...like mother (under MS) and sister...

21 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

I would have a murder mystery for Drew.

The majority opinion.

 

21 minutes ago, DRW50 said:

Not sure what I'd do with Nina after that. Maybe she would have a breakdown

Given that CW has been in the role, I'm surprised that the writers have not gone to that well yet. Those they have danced around it quite a few times.

 

 

On 1/10/2025 at 9:42 AM, AbcNbc247 said:

I think a mother should always gets some leeway when the situation involves her child 😂😂😂

Them facts.

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— Deadline (@DEADLINE) January 9, 2025

Grey's Anatomy has reportedly been paused since January 8–9, and yet General Hospital has still been in-production. Quite curious considering they both film at Prospect Studios.

As much as this pains me to say, I think Nina's future on the show might hinge on Sonny.  I wouldn't mind if Nina had a breakdown and was shipped off for awhile.  I just don't know how long this little Eva La Rue experiment will last.  Natalia doesn't have a fanbase and Sonny needs a love interest.  While they have completely dropped Nina/Sonny at this point she's more likely to repaired with Sonny than Carly, IMO.  

32 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

yet General Hospital has still been in-production. Quite curious considering they both film at Prospect Studios.

Yeah, that is quite curious.

15 minutes ago, carolineg said:

As much as this pains me to say, I think Nina's future on the show might hinge on Sonny.  I wouldn't mind if Nina had a breakdown and was shipped off for awhile.  I just don't know how long this little Eva La Rue experiment will last.  Natalia doesn't have a fanbase and Sonny needs a love interest.  While they have completely dropped Nina/Sonny at this point she's more likely to repaired with Sonny than Carly, IMO.  

I can see that. The writers do make a note to still have Nina/Sonny scenes once every blue moon since the breakup. 

31 minutes ago, carolineg said:

As much as this pains me to say, I think Nina's future on the show might hinge on Sonny.  I wouldn't mind if Nina had a breakdown and was shipped off for awhile.  I just don't know how long this little Eva La Rue experiment will last.  Natalia doesn't have a fanbase and Sonny needs a love interest.  While they have completely dropped Nina/Sonny at this point she's more likely to repaired with Sonny than Carly, IMO.  

Well, I say this:

Spoiler

Nina talking to Sonny on Monday should be... interesting.