Funny enough, I looked up the actor playing Aaron Greene and he's 22.

But older actors playing teens is nothing new in soaps.  Laurence Lau was 27 when he played 18 year old Greg Nelson on AMC, and Jay Kenneth Johnson was 22 when he started as Philip.

So, again, for me, the age is not the issue as much as the acting and the writing.  I hope they develop Tate more and give him more established internal turmoil.

29 minutes ago, j swift said:

What's the age difference in actors between Johnny and Tate? 

I would assume about 7 to 10 years on the show, but only 3 years IRL

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Much like with Johnny and Chanel, if you took the time to tell me that the source of Johnny's insecurity is that he doesn't want as many failed relationships as his mother.  I'd be willing to put up with a lot more BS. 

I just need those scenes where a character expresses some self-awareness based on their family.  Otherwise, having historic characters in name only is pointless.

@AbcNbc247The craziest recent example of the shift from scab to current staff was Johnny worrying about a curse on married relationships in the Dimera's, that has never been mentioned again.  And EJ talking about not wanting a grandson with congenital disorders within the lineage, during Chanel's pregnancy.  And then doing a total about face, and saying he didn't mean it when she lost the baby.

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10 minutes ago, j swift said:

 

@AbcNbc247The craziest recent example of the shift from scab to current staff was Johnny worrying about a curse on married relationships in the Dimera's, that has never been mentioned again.  And EJ talking about not wanting a grandson with congenital disorders within the lineage, during Chanel's pregnancy.  And then doing a total about face, and saying he didn't mean it when she lost the baby.

The change in Alex comes to mind as well.

And I guess they’ve forgotten about the time capsule too

I bet having to sit through two full days of Body&Soul (with no FF) that the time capsule will play into the F-Abby story.  Much like Hope's puzzle box when she came back from the dead with amnesia.  RonC loves a callback, and characters not discussing a mcguffin doesn't mean it has been forgotten. 

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12 hours ago, j swift said:

Funny enough, I looked up the actor playing Aaron Greene and he's 22.

But older actors playing teens is nothing new in soaps.  Laurence Lau was 27 when he played 18 year old Greg Nelson on AMC, and Jay Kenneth Johnson was 22 when he started as Philip.

So, again, for me, the age is not the issue as much as the acting and the writing.  I hope they develop Tate more and give him more established internal turmoil.

It's so funny that you mention LL because he's totally who nuTate reminds me of.

I agree with those who say he's miscast. I think the first Tate's youthful earnestness was perfect for the role, I stood in his corner and felt that Holly didn't deserve him at all. Now I just don't care.

I'm reminded of another glaring recast, Casey Diedrich to Billy Flynn. I just did not buy that they were the same person. But I've been able to accept that this is who Chad is now, even if it goes against every initial instinct of the character. Chad has been curiously aged and matured by BF, I don't see CD as the father of two who grieves a lost wife and who so effortlessly does not suffer Leo.

4 minutes ago, SFK said:

I'm reminded of another glaring recast, Casey Diedrich to Billy Flynn. I just did not buy that they were the same person. But I've been able to accept that this is who Chad is now, even if it goes against every initial instinct of the character. Chad has been curiously aged and matured by BF, I don't see CD as the father of two who grieves a lost wife and who so effortlessly does not suffer Leo.

The other thing is: the writing for Casey Deidrick vs. Billy Flynn was drastically different, too. Plus, I never bought Deidrick as a DiMera, while Flynn I always have. It was an upgrade in casting if you ask me. A glaring recast was Justin Gaston vs. Robert Scott Wilson. Such a downgrade.

3 hours ago, SFK said:

I think the first Tate's youthful earnestness was perfect for the role

My argument would be that Tate 1.0 was written as a bratty, insolent teen who was constantly arguing with his parents.  But, that actor was too earnest for that dialogue.  And unfortunately Tate 2.0 has been written as a kinder, gentler guy, when in fact, post-prison, he should be angrier than ever.

I keep thinking back to when Kristen Alfonso took over as Hope.  The prior Hope was immature and bratty.  But, Kristen brought more sophistication to the role.  So Hope developed into a daddy's girl, who was a bit of a rebel, but never a mean girl, just for the sake of being naughty.

I hope that the role of Tate becomes more tailored to the actor, because he shows some promise, and he doesn't seem to be going anywhere, any time soon.

Edited September 29, 20241 yr by j swift

Just what we needed after a weekend of terrible news, a full Body&Soul day 🖕🖕

All the meta-jokes did absolutely nothing except make me roll my eyes. Neither did messy Johnny and Chanel because they deserve better than this. I’m glad that this (possibly) was the thing that got Ron fired and that it only has like 3 fans across the entire Soap Universe. That’s exactly what it deserves.

And yeah, Hattie needs to be killed off.

Bonnie still having a subscription to Soap Opera Digest shows how long ago this was written. 

Btw, does the thumbnail for today’s episode show a major spoiler for everyone else as well? 😂😂

3 hours ago, AbcNbc247 said:

Just what we needed after a weekend of terrible news, a full Body&Soul day 🖕🖕

All the meta-jokes did absolutely nothing except make me roll my eyes. Neither did messy Johnny and Chanel because they deserve better than this. I’m glad that this (possibly) was the thing that got Ron fired and that it only has like 3 fans across the entire Soap Universe. That’s exactly what it deserves.

And yeah, Hattie needs to be killed off.

Bonnie still having a subscription to Soap Opera Digest shows how long ago this was written. 

Btw, does the thumbnail for today’s episode show a major spoiler for everyone else as well? 😂😂

Lol!  I haven't watched the episode yet, but my thumbnail is super spoilery.

I really hope Ron's plan isn't to burn through Deidre's guarantees on Hattie because he's not sure what to do with Marlena.

I don't think anyone wants that.

Just now, carolineg said:

I really hope Ron's plan isn't to burn through Deidre's guarantees on Hattie because he's not sure what to do with Marlena.

I don't think anyone wants that.

*prays for April and May 2025*

Haven't watched yet, but had to go look at the spoiler screenshot.  I guess my theory that Diana is Mother Greene won't pan out…

3 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

*prays for April and May 2025*

Me too.  This Body & Soul stuff is rough.  I don't even mind it existing.  I just don't need full episodes about this nonsense.   Both Hattie and Bonnie are such useless characters that should have been ditched long ago.  Honestly, if one day JE walks into a room and everyone just starts calling her Adrienne again and we just pretend Bonnie never existed I wouldn't even question it.

4 minutes ago, j swift said:

Haven't watched yet, but had to go look at the spoiler screenshot.  I guess my theory that Diana is Mother Greene won't pan out…

Well, that would be a twist lol.....

Just now, carolineg said:

Me too.  This Body & Soul stuff is rough.  I don't even mind it existing.  I just don't need full episodes about this nonsense.   Both Hattie and Bonnie are such useless characters that should have been ditched long ago.  Honestly, if one day JE walks into a room and everyone just starts calling her Adrienne again and we just pretend Bonnie never existed I wouldn't even question it.

I am praying that somehow Paula Cwikly & Jeanne Marie Ford remedy the Adrienne/Bonnie mess. Honestly, while I'd hate for another "back from the dead" storyline, I'd accept it one final time with Adrienne, and then call it a day. Otherwise, cut Judi Evans to end her suffering as Bonnie.