Members titan1978 Posted November 17, 2024 Members Share Posted November 17, 2024 There is a bit of Frank apologist in trying to blame Kelly or some outside force at the network. Which I find hilarious. There are several examples of Frank Valentini being petty towards actors that make things difficult. We know he absolutely hates if someone talks about bts dirt or criticizes the show. Tristan Rogers told his fans one of his abrupt departures was because Frank was pissed about what he said about the show. Sean Kanan was fired and his character killed off just a couple years after a popular resurrection after complaining about lack of story. And negative comments about his appearance were allowed to be in the scripts IIRC. NLG “joked” on Twitter that Alexis being sidelined and sent to jail was because Frank was mad at her. Kin has openly complained and been punished too. Kelly publicly spoke up about the show getting rid of Billy. And visibly tanked her onscreen story with Jason because she wanted to act with her real life partner. It was so uncomfortable to watch that Burton even spoke about it, saying what worked before was not working anymore when they broke them up. Do I believe he is capable of icing someone out? Yes I do. I also believe the way this was handled was not good. But I don’t believe she did something so egregious that Disney got involved. Please. Also! People around here have argued before about a contract not being renewed or being dropped to recurring is not fired. It absolutely is. They were let go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted November 17, 2024 Members Share Posted November 17, 2024 (edited) I'm sure I join lots of fans who agree that Frank can definitely be petty & that pettiness can turn punitive. Do you recall a time when Scotty was in the middle of a trial & they changed to Diane, saying that Scotty had to go help Serena who was in trouble from protesting about the whales? (Hilarious actual dialogue.) According to the actors that was a time when Kin was being punished for something. (I don't have the link to the actor saying it, but it could probably be found.) Edited November 17, 2024 by Contessa Donatella more more more 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted November 17, 2024 Author Members Share Posted November 17, 2024 Why doesnt ABC Disney fire Frank and promote senior Supervising producer Mary Kelly (MK) Weir? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted November 17, 2024 Members Share Posted November 17, 2024 Maybe we can stop picking random names we see in the credits out of a hat with no idea if they'd be any good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted November 17, 2024 Author Members Share Posted November 17, 2024 Well she as been producing daytime for 30 years and has been Tech Director and senior supervising producer at GH since 2013. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vee Posted November 17, 2024 Members Share Posted November 17, 2024 I'm aware of who she is. That doesn't mean any random name in the credits is a good choice for a new EP. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Liberty City Posted November 17, 2024 Members Share Posted November 17, 2024 Please register in order to view this content Thank you for saying it. If a name were to come in, I'd want to see Shelly Curtis return to General Hospital. She is a creative who I do think would have a vision for the soap, and would be able to handle budget. Promptly and properly. Plus, she's not someone who worked under Frank Valentini, which is a promising sign of good things to possibly happen. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted November 17, 2024 Members Share Posted November 17, 2024 Personally I really doubt Disney is dissatisfied with him, or if they are it's minor. IOW, nothing even close to our level of criticism. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members titan1978 Posted November 17, 2024 Members Share Posted November 17, 2024 Most important to me is she worked under both Monty and Riche. She knows the DNA of the show and worked with many of the actors and helped develop characters. Based on interviews she still seems to get it too. We need people like her mentoring so that the correct lessons are learned. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Liberty City Posted November 17, 2024 Members Share Posted November 17, 2024 Curtis talking about understand how things work now, and then furthering to detail her time on B&B and how she turned out content under the time she said she had, even with them running over time. And other examples of what she did. This is what we need on GH. And then quite literally said, without naming Frank, by stated they either don't have the expertise or have the team behind them to produce lightning in a bottle. This is what GH needs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jasonminer1974 Posted November 17, 2024 Members Share Posted November 17, 2024 If they ever get rid of Frank we will get someone like Chuck Pratt 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chris B Posted November 18, 2024 Members Share Posted November 18, 2024 This is why I don't get the outrage of her exit. They tried to give her story and we know she tanked that story and has been phoning it in for years. She's lucky to have lasted as long as she did considering the performances she was giving. They needed to get rid of someone likely for the budget and also, as we saw in the ratings, killing off a major character can generate good ratings and story. Who else would yall recommend they have gotten rid of with a similar pay? She didn't seem like she wanted to be there. Hell, she definitely doesn't seem like she wants to return and yet her fans are still begging for her job back. I just don't get it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Posted November 18, 2024 Author Members Share Posted November 18, 2024 Shelley Curtis would make a great EP if they hired someone from the past, Id pick her or Wendy Riche. I agree to an extent but also feel for Sam fans and KM. Although when many were pissed that GF was taken off contract in 2018, many were like its not big of a deal. A lot of it has to do with who you relate to as a character 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Contessa Donatella Posted November 18, 2024 Members Share Posted November 18, 2024 Chris, you are so right. It's very confusing. On the one hand, some fans say what terrible treatment. On the other hand, some fans say they want her back in that same spot. This, to me, is a giant contradiction. I'm trying not to judge Frank. Also not judging Kelly. But these fans, some of them, OY. They are just a lot. A lot to take, I mean. John, Shelly Curtis & Wendy Riche are definitely gold standard. But, like me, getting up there in age. One thing I find interesting about some Sam/Kelly fans, is that before she leaked the news of her firing, we saw very little fan engagement about Sam McCall or even about Sante. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members titan1978 Posted November 18, 2024 Members Share Posted November 18, 2024 It’s wild how many people think there was some plot by Frank to keep JaSam apart as a couple. Did they watch when the show broke them up? It was because of the talent that the relationship was ended, and by all accounts one-sided on her end. I would feel differently if there were any leaks that Burton was not kind to her or was difficult to work with. I don’t even like the guy and I haven’t heard anything about them not getting along. I do feel sympathy for her- she lost a job that she has been in for over 20 years, in what has also been a difficult few years personally. I do think FV is petty and is mismanaging the show. I feel for her fans too. She can never say her fans didn’t try very to hard save her job. They did online and offline which matters. Only time will tell if there is a longterm effort. Genie fans and people just upset with Frank went after him consistently for a long time before they seriously reached out to Genie to try to get her to return. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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