2 minutes ago, janea4old said:

Well, that's what I thought at first, when Brook Lynn was wearing blazers all the time for a year after Amanda gave birth.    But it's been a few years and she still is dressed very modestly.  At least she pulls it off wearing bright colors and being quite fashionable. She doesn't look dumpy at all!    But it was really obvious at the swimming pool when she was wearing a long dress.  A beautiful vibrant red attractive summer dress, but still.  At that point, I began to wonder if she requested it for her personal modesty beliefs (instead of it being a body image issue).  The zoom interview leads me to believe that it is indeed her wish, but I cannot confirm that.

That's fine if that's her wish and I do respect her beliefs.  I am just not sure why she is on a soap if that's her way of thinking.  If the show allows it, though, I can't really say much.

1 minute ago, Donna L. Bridges said:

Thanks for the reminder. Some fans consider that what Sonny did to Karen was a form of rape, even. This show gets me putting thing in separate compartments! Obviously since I was thinking only about Stone & Robin & not even thinking about Karen. 

I don't think what Sonny did was rape.  It was just very exploitative and a villian move, but I think Karen is the main motivator in Jagger's hatred.   John/Jagger treated Karen like crap too and I expect he has guilt himself because she's dead and taking it out on Sonny.

I am admittedly a little behind. Didn't you say these Olivia/Lois scenes last week were suspect, Caroline? This all feels of a theme/piece with the New Year's stuff with Sonny and Lois - like a clear setup by O'Connor and Van Etten to pair Mo and Rena, with Olivia haranguing her about her loyalty to Sonny and Lois so aggro with Nina who she barely knows. Like you I don't remember Lois ever being this permissive with Sonny. Hard pass.

BTW: What exactly is Nina doing in this Metro Court office space lol? She is sitting at a desk but I'm pretty sure she does not yet have a new job. I know Valentin made her an offer for a startup but I didn't think she'd accepted yet.

Edited February 8, 20241 yr by Vee

5 minutes ago, Vee said:

I am admittedly a little behind. Didn't you say these Olivia/Lois scenes last week were suspect, Caroline? This all feels of a theme/piece with the New Year's stuff with Sonny and Lois - like a clear setup by O'Connor and Van Etten to pair Mo and Rena, with Olivia haranguing her about her loyalty to Sonny and Lois so aggro with Nina who she barely knows. Like you I don't remember Lois ever being this permissive with Sonny. Hard pass.

Yes!  The things Olivia was saying about Lois needing Sonny's approval was so strange!! This is a woman who once convinced Sonny's girlfriend to wear a wire on him to get Sonny in trouble because he was breaking the law.  Lois loves Sonny as an old friend, but she never compromised on his bad behavior.  As far as Nina, I could see her disliking her on principle or to have some solidarity with Brenda or something, but she just hates her to hate her which is weird.   I feel weird vibes from it all and I hope they move away from the Lois/Sonny thought when PM and Korte take over.

16 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I don't think what Sonny did was rape.  It was just very exploitative and a villian move, but I think Karen is the main motivator in Jagger's hatred.   John/Jagger treated Karen like crap too and I expect he has guilt himself because she's dead and taking it out on Sonny.

Yes, me, too, exploitation for sure & getting her hooked on drugs is appalling. But, didn't rise to the level of rape. 

7 minutes ago, carolineg said:

I feel weird vibes from it all and I hope they move away from the Lois/Sonny thought when PM and Korte take over.

That's the hope for me, yes. It seems like an obvious setup.

11 minutes ago, Vee said:

That's the hope for me, yes. It seems like an obvious setup.

It does.  And I honestly don't think it's the worst idea in the world.  They do have chemistry.  It just strongly goes against everything Lois represents, but Lesli Kay's Lois did date Alcazar so I am not even sure where Lois is at as a character or a person.  The only real frame of reference we have about Lois's love life for all these years is that she married Ned and felt that was a disaster and is fine with Olivia marrying him.

1 minute ago, carolineg said:

It does.  And I honestly don't think it's the worst idea in the world. 

I also think they still have chemistry, but I just have zero interest in watching Rena be wasted on that because that's exactly what would happen especially with these (thankfully) departing writers and the character would continue to be compromised. Mo can barely get up to half his best speed on a good day as is.

Between the Lois/Sonny talk and the Anna/Sonny stuff I am afraid for two of my favorite leading ladies. Please spare them and us those potential pairings. When Anna said she could handle Sonny all I thought was noooooooo!

Just now, titan1978 said:

Between the Lois/Sonny talk and the Anna/Sonny stuff I am afraid for two of my favorite leading ladies. Please spare them and us those potential pairings. When Anna said she could handle Sonny all I thought was noooooooo!

Don't get me started on what's been done with Anna over the years. I've said it many times; they've made her too soft and weepy too often, and too chummy with Sonny, etc. because the show has gone out of its way since 2012 to make it clear over and over that Anna is cool with Sonny so the audience should be too. Mo and Finola liking each other off-camera is not a good excuse. I love Anna and I hate how weak she's become re: Sonny, Valentin, etc.

2 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

Between the Lois/Sonny talk and the Anna/Sonny stuff I am afraid for two of my favorite leading ladies. Please spare them and us those potential pairings. When Anna said she could handle Sonny all I thought was noooooooo!

Well, I agree, but I'd also like to add in Ava. Been there, done that, don't need to revisit it. Avery is a delight & that's enough of that. It's reached the point now where when Sonny is around any female, even if she should be in the Friend Zone, we all worry that it's a chem test. 

3 minutes ago, Vee said:

Don't get me started on what's been done with Anna over the years. I've said it many times; they've made her too soft and weepy too often, and too chummy with Sonny, etc. because the show has gone out of its way since 2012 to make it clear over and over that Anna is cool with Sonny so the audience should be too. Mo and Finola liking each other off-camera is not a good excuse. I love Anna and I hate how weak she's become re: Sonny, Valentin, etc.

same

8 minutes ago, Vee said:

Don't get me started on what's been done with Anna over the years. I've said it many times; they've made her too soft and weepy too often, and too chummy with Sonny, etc. because the show has gone out of its way since 2012 to make it clear over and over that Anna is cool with Sonny so the audience should be too. Mo and Finola liking each other off-camera is not a good excuse. I love Anna and I hate how weak she's become re: Sonny, Valentin, etc.

It is strange because in her first run, you could argue that sometimes she was even quite cold. And it worked for me and made Anna a far more credible spy than Robert.

Anna is probably my favorite GH character, so her crying over that wimp Valentine was just laughable.

1 minute ago, titan1978 said:

It is strange because in her first run, you could argue that sometimes she was even quite cold. And it worked for me and made Anna a far more credible spy than Robert.

Anna is probably my favorite GH character, so her crying over that wimp Valentine was just laughable.

I cry when I become so angry that is the only expression that I can find. So, I thought Anna was crying because she was furious. And it certainly was righteous anger if I am right about it. 

2 minutes ago, titan1978 said:

It is strange because in her first run, you could argue that sometimes she was even quite cold. And it worked for me and made Anna a far more credible spy than Robert.

I've often felt Finola leans into the more emotional, soppy material since returning into the 2010s because she wants more vulnerability for Anna and enjoys playing with some scene partners. I can understand that to a point, and I could understand her being emotional in the Robin saga in that early period in 2012-13. But no one plays a cold operator like Finola, and Anna is just too hardcore for me to buy into all the weeping over Valentin, etc. and the cozy scenes with guys like Sonny. The Scorpios should both have a hard line on him.

Ughh...I forgot about my Anna/Sonny fears until this moment lol.  Do we think Sonny is actually going to permanently move on from Nina?