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AMC Is Thorsten Kaye in violation of WGA rules?

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Unfortunately, they also still have the worst writer in town. I don't hold out much hope.

Well, the worst writer in town has to write out the worst character in town, so that's a net gain to me!

Viva Los Angeles!

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Good question.

Which is why I believe when Higley brought action against Scott, it wasn't necessarily that he was doing anything much different than oodles of other actors and directors and producers in daytime. The only difference is that she called the "cops".

But at the time, such hue and cry was raised over Ed Scott's 'shameful' behavior. I'm trying to understand if the extent or magnitude of what he and the alleged actress were doing was any worse than what Thorsten Kaye or Anthony Geary or Hunter Tylo do.

Ed Scott and "the diva" were changing a lot more than just dialogue. That's why there was a big issue last year. You can't compare that situation with certain actors changnig dialogue for their own characters.

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I'm not surprised by that. In one of his interveiws he seemed to think Zach was pretty morally superior to Kendall and that the fact that she slepted with Ryan made all of Zach's recent wrongdoings irrelvant. I hate that his rewrites are making Kendall and Zach's relationship more unequal than it already is. He seems to need Zach to have the power and be in the right.

The idea that TK rewrote the lines to make Zach even more misogynistic than he already is gives me pause when considering him back at OLTL, which I have always welcomed.

I watched the episode that contained the re-written/allegedly "misogynisitc" vows, and I must have missed something. First off, Zach never said "I'm giving you my heart, you can't hurt it again, blah blah whatever" which Minshew was quoted as saying. And I went and looked at transcripts--yes, lame I know, but I was curious--and saw nary a misogynistic word. Case in point:

Kendall: Zach, we -- we have both done so much to hurt what we have. I mean, we damn near killed us. You've done everything you can to show that our love is still here. But now I need to hear it. So if you want our marriage to be real again, then -- then I want our vows to be real, too.

Zach: Our vows?

Kendall: Yeah. Well, the ceremony that we had at the hospital -- that was just -- I mean, we said those promises out of desperation. That was just a legal trick to help me. But if we're serious about this -- if we want to try to find a way to find us again --

Zach: Well, we can't. We can't go back.

Kendall: No, I know that. We can only go forward. And not ignoring what happened or what I did. So no, these -- these are not vows, they're promises. And I promise I will never turn my back on you or our family ever again. Never. No lies. Just -- just love. I will only love you, and only you, forever.

OK, so Kendall perhaps took more of the blame for the disintegration of the relationship, but there was no "woman-bashing" in that dialogue. Same here:

Kendall: I have dreamed of this many times in that ridiculous secret room. I have dreamed of this moment. And I promise to never let go again. I will never let go of you and our family and our love. And from now on, I promise to always think before I act. I promise to try to think before I act -- and not be so impulsive.

Zach: Are you sure you want to promise that? Because --

Kendall: Well, I have to. I couldn't go another second not knowing where you stand.

Zach: Well, I'm right here. And I promise I will try -- try to break up these demons that won't let me sleep at night. And I will try to put out the fires that give them life. And regardless of the past and the future, I -- I will try to be present, here, giving my heart. And I don't really want it back because I don't think it'll fit in here anymore. It's just a little bigger than it was, and -- hey, who knows? You know, maybe these guys are right when they say we only get one ticket on this crazy merry-go-round. I kind of want to be on it with you.

And since AM said TK helped her with her dialogue, too, I included this:

Kendall: Trust that things will work out. That Emma will do the right thing. We can get through this. We will get through this. I mean, didn't I have to trust you? I had to trust that you knew exactly what you were doing when you snatched me from that courtroom and locked me away upstairs. And now it's your turn. Quit shutting me out of your heart because you think I've changed. I mean, of course I've changed in some ways. A coma and a heart transplant will do that to you. But deep down, you know I am exactly the same woman I've always been. The same woman who promised to love you forever. Trust my instincts now. Trust our love. Please.

Maybe I need to look "misogyny" up in the dictionary...'cause I sure ain't seeing it here.

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