Members BadZoe Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 It bothers me more when actors do a crappy job with good writing than with crappy writing and crappy producing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 Billy was a proud Abbott until Jack Smith made Jill a Chancellor. It was all downhill from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 There's always a weird undercurrent of shame with the Abbotts, except for Jack (who is the one we are repeatedly told lets his family down), and Traci (who is rarely seen). Billy and Ashley sometimes seem thrilled to not be a part of that family. And Abby was overjoyed to embrace her Newman roots, with the Abbott/Carlton ties an afterthought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lmfan Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 And then hire a sexual molestor to be her OB. Now they want us all to forgive Adam for throwing a fetus in the fireplace and cleaning up his step mother intimately after causing her to fall because he is showing a little guilt for taking Sharon's baby to make it up to Ashley. Unbelievable. He needs to be written off for a least a year to shake the stench off him, but these writers want to make him the new Victor and base the family around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 That's the thing there was no rivalry. Their relationship consisted of Billy being marginalized & emotionally neglected by Katherine & Jill while they rushed to constantly fawned over Cane's idiotic ass. Being shackled to Chloe's schizo character for the first 6 months certainly didn't help. TPTB wee so busy trying to decide what to do with Chloe they completely hosed Billy in the process. And that's where TPTB's "Billy is The New Jack" falls hella flat. They had him fall madly in love with CKLily which Terry Lester's Jack would have NEVER done. Exactly. Billy loves his family. For him to be so divorced from them until he needed something is some bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 Oops, never mind. Mistook it for another thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 That's been a HUGE issue with Ashley for a LONG time for various reasons. Billy not so much. Another blatant bus throwing & Diamont/Sursok's firings didn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 I still cringe at the memory of this Abby running into the ranch, yelling, "DADDY!!!" to Victor. It was so WRONG. I never really knew why they toyed with Billy/Lily. I guess they wanted a story where the pure princess tames the bad boy, but it came out of nowhere, and quickly went back there. The history is such a mess now. More recent viewers I know say stuff like, "Well Billy is right to be upset because he had a horrible childhood thanks to Jill. No one was there for him." They don't know that John raised him for some time. I think they believe that Jill put him in a military school or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BadZoe Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 Well then Maria will certainly have to reverse LML's Sheila storyline. I forgot that Sheila was paired with Tom so it makes even more sense that Ryder is their hellspawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 It seems like half of MAB's tenure on this show has been about reversing past story directions, and even that she and her hack writing team can't do properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 You aren't the only one. Can't have Victor's kids not like him though. Agenda driven writing at its finest. That is the worst thing about Smith-Latham-Bell's regimes. All the relationship complexity has been ruined to make things "easier" to handle for new viewers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BadZoe Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 I think somewhere it is written that all new men on Y&R between 15 and 32 have to be chemistry tested with the stars of the show CK and AF. Billy wasn't so bad until they paired him with CF who he doesn't have an ounce of chemistry with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 Each regime has mottos... Smith "Twist A Plenty. Fail A Plenty." Latham "What The Hell?!" Bell "You're Doing It Wrong!" That hurts to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted October 20, 2009 Members Share Posted October 20, 2009 I don't see a lot with EH either, although that might be the writing (I don't believe that Billy has any real affection for Chloe). For me the real souring point with Billy was the fling with Sharon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrator Toups Posted October 20, 2009 Administrator Share Posted October 20, 2009 There....that was easy! Merged 5 pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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