Members rhythmchyc Posted July 3, 2009 Members Share Posted July 3, 2009 Absolutely. MAB and 'em are really screwing with the audience. They're acting like a--holes and they're being very disrespectful. But Stephenie is a pain in the rear because she doesn't develop characters well so that they work cohesively to move a plot along; nor does she use her characters efficiently so that chunk of them are wastes of space with very little to contribute to the story; nor does she pace her works well, serious issues in Y&R. In fact, these elements are what I believe are among the root causes of the downfalls of a lot of soaps these days. If MAB and 'em thought as Victor would in this situation, rather than regard the plot solely, this gaslighting drivel would've been the most ravishing soap, despite Adam's murder. And I don't even think that MAB has any rules set up, that's how zany this dimension of Genoa City seems. Tyra being Devon's aunt was never even set up properly. He didn't even know that Ana was his sister until a few months after Tyra arrived. And it wasn't as if Devon and Tyra even had a close relationship while he lived with his grandmother as a child. Thus anything Tyra represents should be taken with a grain of salt. The only thing that is certain is her love her Ana. It's all smoke and mirrors. I assume when MAB creates the general story line, she intentionally makes situations as vague as possible so that she can f*** with our heads. The crazy thing is that if the set up were clever enough, she'd be able to pull a lot of smoke and mirror acts off. But because she hasn't been able to, we're left scratching our heads and wondering where the hell Y&R has gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jcar03 Posted July 3, 2009 Members Share Posted July 3, 2009 Wasn't SoapNet's Choose Your Daddy marathon supposed to be during Father's Day weekend and not this weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted July 3, 2009 Members Share Posted July 3, 2009 Does anyone have the # for Y&R's comment line or know where I can find it? The latest spoiler has me pissed enough to complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted July 3, 2009 Members Share Posted July 3, 2009 That spoiler is just a rumor for now. Hopefully it won't be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted July 3, 2009 Members Share Posted July 3, 2009 I just want to let them know that I'm not watching this show to see .Just in case TPTB are even THINKING about it. Enough is enough. There is still plenty of things I am enjoying about this show. I still love seeing the characters I've known for many years, even if some of the stories are bad, but there are things that I will not tolerate without speaking out about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members lmfan Posted July 3, 2009 Members Share Posted July 3, 2009 I don't like Gloria, but it is ironic that some are willing to give MJ a pass for intentional wrongs and yet magnify Gloria's wrongs where it concerns Abby and Fisher. We saw MJ kill a bird, obviously she killed her cat, kissed a child allergic to peanuts on the mouth after stuffing a peanut butter cookie in her mouth. All intentional acts even if she did cry a bit and rave about her pills. There is little excuse for purposelly hurting children and animals in my book because they are innocents and can't defend themselves. The writers have a talented actress on their hands but I don't think MJ/Patty will be long term. By the way, you can go to CBS.com and go to Daytime/Y&R and they have a way to contact them. Let's just say I have offerred feedback in the past, all of which has been ignored, except a request for Lauren and Michael to get a love scene. Of course, I never expected after that scene in May, the show would ignore Lauren for June and July again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juliajms Posted July 3, 2009 Members Share Posted July 3, 2009 Exactly, and I'm not feeling it on my soap at all. At least MJ didn't realize that kissing Summer would have the effect that it did. She said in her hospital scene that she only thought it would make her a little bit sick. The Adam thing was much worse for reasons we have already discussed, but again, he is more guilty of being stupid then of intentionally trying to kill a baby. In both cases, though, my sympathy is very diminished for these characters. This is daytime and these writers have gone too far and it doesn't seem like it's going to be letting up anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members lmfan Posted July 3, 2009 Members Share Posted July 3, 2009 Personally I don't buy MJ's tears or her excuse that she thought Summer would only be a little sick. MJ is a psycho, not a moron. She is obviously intelligent enough to do her job very well at Jabot and easily set up Phyllis with Heather. She saw how Phyllis snatched those cookies away and talked to Summer about not eating things without an adult around. MJ's scene with Summer was just a way for Patty to rationalize for herself her deviant actions just like apologizing to the bird and Kitty. Plus as soon as she apologized she told a comatose Summer that she would have to send mommy away for a long time. MJ has no remorse for what she did to Summer and she would do it again if it would get her what she wants. MJ has entered Adam territory and them apologizing after the fact rings hollow in my book. MAB just doesn't seem the type to go these lengths with children and animals. It just reeks of HS. I just have to wonder who is in control over there. Was some deal made that MAB would have her pet project Philip and Chancellor story in exchange for HS to get his hands on other stories? I know it is pure speculation on my part, but something is really off with the sudden change in direction of the show the last few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cara mia Posted July 3, 2009 Members Share Posted July 3, 2009 People cut MJ slack for one reason. SH is an inherently sympathetic presence. And it's NOT about talent. Judith Chapman is very talented but she is not inherently sympathetic. SH is able to sell this wretched villain but I can understand quite easily why she was once cast as All-American sweetheart Lana Lang. To see her is love her. Once again, this quality of being sympathetic, likable/lovable has NOTHING do with talent. Instead of making MJ so dark, I wish the writers would capitalize on SH's underlying sweetness and move MJ away from monster and towards conflicted anti-heroine. It's not in the cards though I think, which is too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DRW50 Posted July 3, 2009 Members Share Posted July 3, 2009 I think another reason many root for MJ is because this quad is so full of unlikeable people. I also wonder if this is why they're having MJ get nastier and nastier, because they realized how hard it is for people to root for any of Sharon/Nick/Jack/Phyllis now. I think the same happened with Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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