I enjoy the show everyday which is why i watch it everyday. I just don't understand why you would watch a show that's horrible and spend so much time talking about how horrible it is. I see lots of good stuff, probably more than most, but I see bad stuff too and post about that too. I just don't get why it's ALL good - or it's ALL bad.

it seems like it gets all political party Dems vs. the GOP - and then it gets very talk-radio where everything is either you're for the show or against the show in its current state. it really perplexes me.

You watch in hopes it will get better. You watch if you like the acting of some of the actors. You watch because it is a hard habit to break.

Edited June 18, 200916 yr by lmfan

I enjoy the show everyday which is why i watch it everyday. I just don't understand why you would watch a show that's horrible and spend so much time talking about how horrible it is. I see lots of good stuff, probably more than most, but I see bad stuff too and post about that too. I just don't get why it's ALL good - or it's ALL bad.

it seems like it gets all political party Dems vs. the GOP - and then it gets very talk-radio where everything is either you're for the show or against the show in its current state. it really perplexes me.

Dude, what????

Effin Laker's parade - no Y&R today! I'll only watch or care about b-ball when they play naked. Gonna go watch it online...

I like your way of thinking Cashton.

I sound like faux David Vickers. Namastay.

You watch in hopes it will get better. You watch if you like the acting of some of the actors. You watch because it is a hard habit too break.

I'm just curious though - what sort of payoff do you get from watching if it's so horrible and save some of your fav actors is bad? I'm really just curious - not trying to make any points. When GL got horrible - I just stopped. When ATWT got horrible - I just stopped. i give the occasional peek to test if it's still horrible, and yep, it is. Make a post or two about how horrible it is and i'm done.

It seems it almost borders on sadomasochism to torture yourself watching a show that is so horrible...where's the fun or pleasure in just hating everyday on how truly horrible it is?

Dude, what????

Not you per se, just the talk of optimism and pessimism. Not pointing to you, sweets.

Edited June 18, 200916 yr by Cashton

To each his own, just how one can stop watching a show that is completly horrible to them one can ignore a post with a tone they dislike. I take this board of a place of discussion and while I agree with some posts and disagree with others I respect intelligent arguments. Live and let live kinda thing. I think these threads are generally representative of what's going on with the show. Many opinions, many things to like and many things to dislike and this is the opportunity to voice all of it. Many things that make you wonder and manytimes someone else either wonders the same thing or have a good answer for the inquiry

Maybe I'll be a man and look like him in my next life.

Not you per se, just the talk of optimism and pessimism. Not pointing to you, sweets.

Nice.

I'm just curious though - what sort of payoff do you get from watching if it's so horrible and save some of your fav actors is bad? I'm really just curious - not trying to make any points. When GL got horrible - I just stopped. When ATWT got horrible - I just stopped. i give the occasional peek to test if it's still horrible, and yep, it is. Make a post or two about how horrible it is and i'm done.

It seems it almost borders on sadomasochism to torture yourself watching a show that is so horrible...where's the fun or pleasure in just hating everyday on how truly horrible it is?

Not you per se, just the talk of optimism and pessimism. Not pointing to you, sweets.

That's you and evryone handles things differently.

I think you slowly do stop watching if you are like me. I used to watch faithfully everyday and even though my favoritrs, Lauren and Michael, have been backburned awhile (Lauren most of the year) I was still interested in other stories. Now, when I watch I find many stories unappealing because I am not a fan of dark stories, and am at the point that I resent the fact that MAB can't bother to write good actors like CLB and TEB in for more than a few minutes a month when she is shoving irritating characters and stories at us multiple times a week. I'm sorry, but I would rather watch Lauren and Michael than Daniel and Amber. Some of these characters I used to like, but when they say the same thing day after day, it gets old. The way they are treating women on this show is also starting to offend me and what I used to love for entertainment is now more of an irritant.

So now the shows are on my DVR and I may watch one or two a week if the spoilers suggest the show or acting is good. The last two months I have slowly been weening myself off the show as I just am losing interest. But it is a process because Y&R has been a daily habit for me since 96 and I watched periodically since the mid 80s (My first show was Lauren and Tracey at the pool party) when I was a kid myself. Then you get sucked in all over again because someone posted Michael and Lauren were on a show last Friday and then when you see that Tracey Bregman was used in one scene with Eden for 30 secs and CLB was used for 2 mins to prop Phyllis you get upset all over again.

The thing is you can get sucked right back into the show if suddenly a story appeals to you or your favorites finally get some screentime. But if things don't change and TEB is written out as I suspect, I probably won't be watching past this summer. It will be a hard habit to break as I have been watching soaps since I was 7.

I really enjoyed today and just plain loved Kay/Nina/Jill and Victor/Adam. The acting was so good, I didn't even mind the plot contrivances.

Tricia Cast, in a weird way, fills the Victoria Rowell void for me. TC isn't glam like VR but she has the same fierceness and centered quality. You could feel the tension among the three of them -- TC brings out the best in her scene partners. If Tyra's going to hook up with her ex-nephew Devon, I would love to at least see a test-run of Neil/Nina. I think they could surprise.

I could hardly breathe during the Victor/Adam scenes. Vic really looked like he was about to smash Adam into pieces and Adam was quaking under his coolness. That was hot. I think I need a cigarette.

LMAO at the previews tomorrow -- Nick telling Phyllis that he & Sharon are buying a house. He's such a douche.

F.UCK OPTOMISTIM when this show disappoints at every turn.

Ah. Where there is no hope, the people perish. Optimism can always be had. It's no way to live, not believing that tomorrow can be a better day. My opinion.

Anyway, just got through with today's show..."episode talk" .

- Jill as manicurist is mildly amusing, and ridiculous. And today, tacked onto the start of the show, it seemed pointless.

- Yup, Jill/Kay/Nina bickering, and then moving into moist-eyed mutual support over the Huntingdon's thing....beautiful. The only problem is that it is RIDICULOUS to exhume a body for this...P4 just needs to be tested. But, oh well...

- I really, really liked Raul today. He was head-and-shoulders above Billy and Mac in his scenes with them. He has developed a gravitas he didn't have during his last go-round. I'll miss him. Mac should be really grateful for him.

- Victor putting two-and-two together regarding Adam was nice...for a minute. That they all then retreated to separate corners, and Adam continued his mayhem...not so nice. It is really tragic when Victor and Ashley have to turn stupid in order to have this plot progress. I really didn't feel like Engen was into it today. Very bland...I'd say almost depressed. You could feel the end was coming.

- Chloe's nice and all, but I am also totally over this game with Billy. Cut him loose.

- When Cane and Billy started playing basketball, my first question was "how do these guys know each other??". Seriously. That's a sign of how poorly this family connection -- even if it is animus -- has been played since the paternity resolve.

- I know people here loathe Cane, but I liked two things today. FIRST, Cane is coming unravelled/unhinged. He's nervous, and he's doing an okay job of it. SECOND, he had terrific (terrific!!) chemistry with Nina. That could GO SOMEWHERE, if they'd just unhook him from his child bride.

That's you and evryone handles things differently.

I think you slowly do stop watching if you are like me. I used to watch faithfully everyday and even though my favoritrs, Lauren and Michael, have been backburned awhile (Lauren most of the year) I was still interested in other stories. Now, when I watch I find many stories unappealing because I am not a fan of dark stories, and am at the point that I resent the fact that MAB can't bother to write good actors like CLB and TEB in for more than a few minutes a month when she is shoving irritating characters and stories at us multiple times a week. I'm sorry, but I would rather watch Lauren and Michael than Daniel and Amber. Some of these characters I used to like, but when they say the same thing day after day, it gets old. The way they are treating women on this show is also starting to offend me and what I used to love for entertainment is now more of an irritant.

So now the shows are on my DVR and I may watch one or two a week if the spoilers suggest the show or acting is good. The last two months I have slowly been weening myself off the show as I just am losing interest. But it is a process because Y&R has been a daily habit for me since 96 and I watched periodically since the mid 80s (My first show was Lauren and Tracey at the pool party) when I was a kid myself. Then you get sucked in all over again because someone posted Michael and Lauren were on a show last Friday and then when you see that Tracey Bregman was used in one scene with Eden for 30 secs and CLB was used for 2 mins to prop Phyllis you get upset all over again.

The thing is you can get sucked right back into the show if suddenly a story appeals to you or your favorites finally get some screentime. But if things don't change and TEB is written out as I suspect, I probably won't be watching past this summer. It will be a hard habit to break as I have been watching soaps since I was 7.

thank you for that - I kinda get it now. Especially if you watch for certain actors, as I don't. I can't remember Lauren or Michael being in a non-dark storyline but I guess dark has shades - Sheila poisoning Lauren to me was dark, but not as dark as Adam in drag scaring Ashley into losing her baby, dark. I really appreciate you explaining your POV to me.

LMAO at the previews tomorrow -- Nick telling Phyllis that he & Sharon are buying a house. He's such a douche.

I uttered that EXACT phrase during the previews.

I uttered that EXACT phrase during the previews.

Phyllis kind of deserves it, remember when she bragged to Sharon about the hot sex she and Nick had a few months back?

When Cane and Billy started playing basketball, my first question was "how do these guys know each other??". Seriously. That's a sign of how poorly this family connection -- even if it is animus -- has been played since the paternity resolve.

Huh??

Where there is no hope, the people perish. Optimism can always be had. It's no way to live, not believing that tomorrow can be a better day.

Namaste, MarkH.