Another World

[Xanthe]

The scene is about 24 minutes in in this long compilation. 

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[Matt Powers]

To add to the babies with the “same name” thread-On “DAYS” both Justin and Adrienne and Steve and Kayla named their son “Joe” after Steve/Adrienne’s mother, Jo.  The characters have not to my knowledge been on the canvas at the same time, nor has anyone mentioned the cousins with the same name 

[Mona Kane Croft]

Thank you.  I remember watching that day.  Part of AW was still quite good at this point, although much of it had devolved into a mess.  

[Xanthe]

I thought perhaps Rachel was a bit saintly in an earlier scene (on an earlier day) when she advised Jamie that he needed to be kind to Mac and continue to consider him as a father. But clearly at this point even she and Russ are on excellent terms and nothing is unforgivable. 

Thanks. It seems that they were born quite far apart in time as well. Cory Hobson/Ewing was born about 20 years before Cory Hutchins.

[mphs19952003]

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[chrisml]

I never realised how much I missed from AW's last years. I guess I really did give the show up once Frankie was killed off. I don't remember any of the characters or plots except for Lila getting together with Cass and Alice Barrett coming back as another character. I know of Lumina but couldn't tell anything about it.

JFP was upset about having to use RKK, but then hired him on GH which was a disaster for many reasons.

 

[Contessa Donatella]

I know it's off-topic but what problem did you have with Stavros that time? 

[chrisml]

Terrible story. Horrible acting. The show became so dark and violent that they had to make changes because of the complaints in a post-9/11 environment. If there's one thing JFP loves, it's violence against women. It's a constant theme in all of her work. She can blame MDP all she wants for Frankie, but JFP did the same thing on every show she was on. 

[mphs19952003]

WTF is this?

[Xanthe]

Margaret dePriest seemed to go for serial killers. She wrote both the Sin Stalker and Fax Newman. 

The thing about violence against women is that there can be a good way to tell those stories if it is not about titillation or punishing a bad girl so she can repent. I don't know whether I can think of a storyline on AW off the top of my head that did a good job of it -- maybe parts of Sharlene's history, although the split personality might have been a distraction at times.

[Contessa Donatella]

So, just the usual. Natch.

David O'Brien playing Lisa's shrink & also serial killer/stalker. 

[chrisml]

MDP and JFP were a terrible combo much like JFP and Megan McTavish on GH. The whole Fax murder storyline started off with the rape and abuse of Courteney. Once she had been victimized sufficiently for those two, they killed her off. It's disturbing.

[AbcNbc247]

I have no idea

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And I don’t think the people who made it did either 

[Contessa Donatella]

NBC made all the promos for their soaps. This one I find to be utterly embarrassing!

[Xanthe]

Was he treating Lisa? I thought they just knew her because they were both helping the police with the investigation. He was definitely Donna's shrink and then it turned out that he had been Lisa's mother's therapist which had started his obsession with Lisa and her virginity.

I have to disagree that that was a good violence against women story. Number one it was too focused on a virgin/whore fantasy in which the only thing that "saved" Lisa was the fact that she had been raped by someone else when she was 14. The serial killer's pattern wasn't anything that exists in nature -- he was obsessed with a young girl for years and eventually started killing prostitutes before starting to kill slightly older women who were the furthest thing from sex workers and one male student until he finally kidnapped his now adult target Lisa.

I'm not saying that actors can't give good performances in a salacious story, but to me a good story about violence against women would have to reckon somewhat realistically with misogyny, power dynamics, issues of who knows what when, & the challenges of holding abusers accountable. There could be a realistic story of a therapist taking advantage of a patient but this wasn't that.