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OLTL: Discussion for the week July 7-11

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'Your baby? What does that make starr?

'Ohh, its all about you!'

'Did you think of the worse way to hurt me?'

SHUT THE [!@#$%^&*] UP YOU STUPID SELFISH BITCH (s)!!!

Yes, that is Coles baby as well. Mauybe if Starr hadnt been such an evil little bitch who didnt think about anyone except herself and hurting todd she would have inculded Cole and listend to him and made a decision with him isnetad of just assuming she could throw her & HIS baby away like nothing and expect him to stillw ant to date her. sure.

'oh cole, i know you wanted the raise your child but i, like, didnt wanna be a mommy, and all, so i like decided to also hurt my father and just decided to give it away, i know you wont mind because ya know, i decided this and you just go with whatever i want'

yeah right.

team cole.

team todd.

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And I'm lovin every minute. :D Blair makes him tolerable IMO, and it's nice to see her with some other then Todd.

Ehh, i think he makes her tolerable.

that was such a bitch move for Starr to throw Cole's dead mother in his face like that. That was just a low blow

yup. she is the person her parents raised her too be.

~ Cole vs. Starr: What in the hell gives Starr the right to decide whether or not Cole would be a good father? She's not a judge, so she doesn't get to decide on her own that he shouldn't have custody. If she LOVES(!)COLE(!)SO(!)MUCH(!), why does she doubt his abilities as a parent? No, he's not at the maturity level to raise a kid, but he has a legal guardian who would do all she can to help, as well as John, who would definitely be there for him. Starrhead just wants to have her cake and eat it too. She wants to put the baby on someone else and still be with Cole and then she can pretend that the whole baby thing had never happened in the first place. She wanted to make sure that Todd would never know that the kid was hers, so it's safe to assume that in order to keep that going, she wouldn't have put in that many visits to the kid at all.

And daaaaaamn, Brody and Rex were getting tense today? I can't wait to watch my tape. BRODEX ALL THE WAY!

agree. its like she is pretty much saying 'i am giving our child, i mean MY child, away and you will not care and wou will be boyfriend' and he is like 'umm.. no' and shes like 'BUT!I!LOVE!YOU!COLE!!' and hes like :rolleyes: 'so you say, yet you want to take my child from me and me not to care and you still expect me to date you? have you been reading Dr Robin Scorpio's blog?"

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I'm noticing a theme on ABC with their pregnant women and the fathers of their children and I don't like it. On GH, Patrick wants to be there for Robin and their baby, but she doesn't want him to because he wasn't to thrilled about it in the beginning, and "knows" he'll resent her later for settling.

Here we have Starr making a unilateral decision about Cole and their baby, and still expects him to be with her. Damn it if you don't want the baby, that's fine, but Cole actually WANTS to be a part of this child's life. He wants to be a father. Most normal teen fathers would run for the hills or encourage her to give it away. For that, I'm on Cole's side....plus I hate Starr right now.

so true. Cole+Patrick+Babies-AnnoyingShrews= :wub:

Well Marcie, you see what happens? You now know how it feels to lose someone over your own stupid actions. You laugh and cheer and taunt Todd when it happens to him..... tsk tsk

they are more alike than they will ever admit.

Kristen Alderson has improved tremendously over the past few months.

:o;):unsure::blink:

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oh yes, Todd pushed Starr down the stairs. He's such a horrible person. Maybe she should have moved out of the damn way....<_<

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Todd's a horrible person for accidentally pushing Starr down the stairs. And Marcie is a horrible person for kidnapping a baby that wasn't hers, putting it in danger by having him near a gun, and holding Viki hostage...a woman who had never done anything wrong to Marcie and was going to shoot her.

Marcie is love...she does nothing wrong. And if she does, it's only because she cares so much.

Excuse me while I go vomit.

Marcie-

Changed sonogram results for Jennifer Rappaport.

Kidnapped Tommy and crossed state lines with the child. [2007]

Fugitive; ran from the authorities [2006-2007]

Held Viki Davidson hostage during a standoff with the authorities. [Jan 2008]

vs

Todd-

Raped Marty Saybrooke

Terrorized Nora in a beach house when Nora was blind

Caused Suede Pruitt's death by pushing him and causing Suede to hit his head

Kidnapped Rebecca Lewis

Raped Carol Swift

Tried to rape Marty again (outside Rodi's, Luna hit him with a lead pipe to protect Marty and that's how he got his scar)

Escaped from prison

Killed Guy Armitage by blowing up his yacht

Tried to frame Patrick for the bombing

Held 14 people hostage in the Buchanan lodge to find out who killed Georgie Phillips

Shot at RJ Gannon

Helped Blair hide the fact that she shot Max

Set a bomb at the police station and tried to steal evidence

Accused of raping Blair on New Year's Eve; sentenced to 10 years in prison,(found innocent and released)

Fully aware that Kelly Cramer Buchanan was passing off Babe Chandler's baby as her own

Arrested for the murders of Margaret Corchran and her son

really?

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Marcie-

Changed sonogram results for Jennifer Rappaport.

Kidnapped Tommy and crossed state lines with the child. [2007]

Fugitive; ran from the authorities [2006-2007]

Held Viki Davidson hostage during a standoff with the authorities. [Jan 2008]

vs

Todd-

Raped Marty Saybrooke

Terrorized Nora in a beach house when Nora was blind

Caused Suede Pruitt's death by pushing him and causing Suede to hit his head

Kidnapped Rebecca Lewis

Raped Carol Swift

Tried to rape Marty again (outside Rodi's, Luna hit him with a lead pipe to protect Marty and that's how he got his scar)

Escaped from prison

Killed Guy Armitage by blowing up his yacht

Tried to frame Patrick for the bombing

Held 14 people hostage in the Buchanan lodge to find out who killed Georgie Phillips

Shot at RJ Gannon

Helped Blair hide the fact that she shot Max

Set a bomb at the police station and tried to steal evidence

Accused of raping Blair on New Year's Eve; sentenced to 10 years in prison,(found innocent and released)

Fully aware that Kelly Cramer Buchanan was passing off Babe Chandler's baby as her own

Arrested for the murders of Margaret Corchran and her son

really?

OMG, people....I know what Todd has done. Still doesn't keep me from hating Marcie right now. But i'm over it, lol. It'll pass :D

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OMG, people....I know what Todd has done. Still doesn't keep me from hating Marcie right now. But i'm over it, lol. It'll pass :D

Well, RyRy, Lovah, Meh Bitch...

thats fine. Hate her because you hate her, but dont try to act as if shes worse than todd by bringing up crimes. You know me. I hate pure perfect innocent people and love the baddies, but you cant bring up what (little) marcie did, as a reason for hating her and wanting her dead and not expect people to bring up much worse. i could go into a slew of comparisons that i have in me mental bank, mostly re Chlmydia on GH, but i wont.

xoxo, jp.

p.s. at least we both have Cole :wub: and starrbitch hate.

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Okay, I watched yesterday's episode last night, and let me just say that Blair (and Starr) need to chill the [!@#$%^&*] out. And here's why!

COLE: I was trying to find a way to keep my kid, that's all.

BLAIR: Oh, your kid? That's funny. And what does that make Starr? A receptacle?

Ummmm...and what about when Starr made a decision regarding the baby without consulting Cole? What does that make Cole? A gardener?

BLAIR: No, you can twist this any way you want, Cole, but you going to Starr's father, that's unforgivable. That's the one person she didn't want to know this information! Did you think about what it would do to her life? You drove even bigger wedge between the two of them.

Blair and Starr are both idiots if they thought that Todd would never find out about Starr's pregnancy. Seriously. And yes, yes, they would have had a few more months to "figure out what to do," but Starr already figured out what she wanted to do, didn't she? Whether it be now or two or three months down the line, Todd would have still aggressively pursued that baby in any way he could. I would even venture to think that it would have been much worse if he knew that he only had a month or so to do what he wanted to do to get the child. It wouldn't be surprising if he took Starr and kept her until she went into labor so that he could take the kid as soon as she popped it out.

COLE: I tried talking to her, but she wouldn't listen to me.

BLAIR: Oh, you, it's all about you, isn't it? "I didn't know what to do because she wouldn't let --" my 16-year-old daughter is knocked up because of you! Her father walks in here and declares war! That's what you wanted, right?

It's all about COLE?! Excuse me, Blair, but every single word out of your mouth is supportive of what Starr wants and what Starr needs. If Cole doesn't think about Cole, WHO is going to? Is he supposed to sit down and let you and Starr decide what's best for him? And that bullshit about him "knocking her up" needs to take a rest, seriously. SERIOUSLY! Starr is SIXTEEN YEARS OLD! She knew EXACTLY EXACTLY EXACTLY what she was doing when she and Cole "made love." She knows exactly what might happen if you have unprotected sex! She spread her legs open WILLINGLY, knowing that she could get pregnant. To say that Cole "knocked her up" is pathetic and really just irresponsible. He didn't attack her, he didn't sweet talk her into anything. She made the decision to open her legs! And I'm not saying that Cole doesn't deserve to be handed his ass for his part in it all, but have we EVER seen Blair really lay into Starr yet? And ask her what the [!@#$%^&*] she was thinking when she decided to have unprotected sex with Cole? Has Blair taken the time to make sure her daughter understands that having unprotected sex with your boyfriend IS NOT A GOOD IDEA?! NO! She's too busy laying into Todd and now laying into Cole. Starr is going to come out of this as some kind of "victim" when she's a major cause for the problem she's in right now. She needs to be taken to task about her decisions, because the way I see it now, nobody seems to think that she did anything wrong. Nothing is Starr's fault, and she is just a victim of Todd's craziness and Cole's burgeoning hormones.

BLAIR: Oh, are you kidding me? You recruited Todd to come in here and browbeat my daughter. That's what you did, and you pushed his buttons just like a damn punk!

COLE: That's my baby, too! And I'll do anything to be in its life.

BLAIR: You put her in the line of fire, but you don't care because you got exactly what you wanted, right?

Because Starr giving her child to Marcie and Michael wouldn't have pissed Todd off at all. Oh, wait, I forgot, Todd was never ever going to know that the child was Starr's. Yeah right. Sure. Dumbasses.

BLAIR: You turned Todd loose on us. There wasn't anything I could do. But now, I'm going to protect my daughter from her father, and from you. And I swear to God, if you do anything to hurt my daughter, you're history.

Translation: If you don't do what Starr wants you to do, you're gonna have to answer to her Mama. Because Starr ALWAYS gets what she wants, no matter what.

COLE: Okay, I don't want to scare you, I love you.

STARR: Don't you dare talk about love with me.

Oh, true. You're supposed to ignore the one you love and believe that their feelings on something are inferior and insignificant compared to yours. Bitch.

COLE: Starr, your dad would've found out sometime.

STARR: Don't try to act all innocent, Cole. You've given my father months to fight me on this, thank you.

IT'S THE FRICKING TRUTH! HE WOULD HAVE FOUND OUT! HGHDGLAFJA!!!! Todd ALWAYS finds out! And now she acts as if that was the plan all along, for him to figure out laaaater. PLEASE!!! Starr thought that Todd would NEVER find out about he pregnancy.

STARR: Okay. So say you get the McBains to back down, you think I'm not going to give the baby away? There are plenty of couples out there that would love to have a child.

And there you have it. Starr's crossed into the territory where she'll give the baby to anyone in the world as long as it meant Cole wouldn't have anything to do with it.

COLE: Okay, you're the one that's pregnant, and it must feel like I got off easy. But you act like this baby's just your property and I have no say in what happens to it.

And that's what it all comes down to right now. The baby is Starr's equipment to piss off Todd.

STARR: And you act like this baby is your family, the antidote for losing your mom, but who do you go to, huh? You go to the man that hurt her most in her life. Your mother must be turning over in her grave right now.

Ah, when it doubt, pull out references to dead mommy to reeeeeeally let Cole know how pissed off you are. If you gave a care about Cole having a family (that wasn't just YOU), you wouldn't have been such a bitch about letting him raise his child in the first place, he would have never went to Todd.

STARR: If you loved me, you wouldn't have done this to me. You don't care about me. All you care about is winning, just like my father.

You don't care about Cole. All YOU care about, Starr, is winning. Just like your father.

STARR: And I'm doing what I have to do. I'm giving this baby to the McBains and there's nothing that anybody can do about it, not my dad and not you. Now I want you to leave me alone. Okay, just go.

Doing what you have to do Starr. To hell with what the baby's biological father has to say about it, right? Selfish bitch.

STARR: Go. Leave. Cole, I said to go. Cole, get out.

Translation: Yes, Cole. Leave. If you keep looking at me like that, I might have the natural urge to "make love" to you again, and then you'll knock me up again, and it'll be ALL YOUR FAULT again.

*sigh*

Viki and Charlie were incredible as always. Brian Kerwin makes you believe that he's been on this show for ages with how natural he acts with Slezak and everybody else. It's going to be a rocky road for them, but I can't wait for them to get back together. I love how Viki dropped her guard enough to work with Charlie to figure out that Dorian had to have had something to do with his drinking. It makes it that much more obvious that she's ready to rebuild.

Brody got all buck with Rex out of nowhere! I love me some Brody, always will, but that was just a little much. It's obvious that he's falling hard for Gigi again, and he can see that Rex is doing the same. I get that. But his comments about Rex being "stand-in daddy" were just a bit much given that Brody knows the truth. Or maybe we're seeing his [!@#$%^&*] streak starting to kick in? And daaaaaaamn, I felt bad for Rex at the end when he was standing by himself watching the fireworks. That's the kind of thing that really works my heart.

Go Marcie! I agree with DES, Marcie isn't afraid of Todd at all. If he drives her enough, and he doesn't have Keys or someone around, and Michael doesn't stop her, I think Marcie could lose her mind all over Todd and kick him in his balls. Loved her calling him a bastard! Fire it up, Marcie!

But...on the other hand, I loved Michael laying down the law. Every word of it was the truth and I'm glad he stuck to his guns and left. I felt for Marcie, but damn, she needs to let this baby stuff go. For now, at least.

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All My Shadows, I LOVE YOU!

LOVE YOU! LOVE YOU! LOVE YOU!

LOVE YOU!!!

did you get that? in case you didnt... i :wub: you!

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All My Shadows...:wub: Your post validates my reason for hating Starr (and by extension Blair) for what they're doing.

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There's still a lot of that girl who spent her high school years forming a Killing Club and plotting the most horrible deaths imaginable for her classmates left in Marcie. Whenever she's bullied or doesn't get what she wants, her mask of sanity slips a little and you get a glimpse of the really selfish bitch underneath. I think one of the reasons it was so easy for Marcie to point a gun at Viki was that she still harbored some deep resentment for the way Viki tore her a new one when Hayes snatched Natalie and it gave her a little payback for all the "I'm so sorry, Mrs. Davidson" groveling she did.

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There's still a lot of that girl who spent her high school years forming a Killing Club and plotting the most horrible deaths imaginable for her classmates left in Marcie. Whenever she's bullied or doesn't get what she wants, her mask of sanity slips a little and you get a glimpse of the really selfish bitch underneath. I think one of the reasons it was so easy for Marcie to point a gun at Viki was that she still harbored some deep resentment for the way Viki tore her a new one when Hayes snatched Natalie and it gave her a little payback for all the "I'm so sorry, Mrs. Davidson" groveling she did.

:wub:

I never thought of it that way, but now I do, lol.

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Marcie-

Changed sonogram results for Jennifer Rappaport.

Kidnapped Tommy and crossed state lines with the child. [2007]

Fugitive; ran from the authorities [2006-2007]

Held Viki Davidson hostage during a standoff with the authorities. [Jan 2008]

vs

Todd-

Raped Marty Saybrooke

Terrorized Nora in a beach house when Nora was blind

Caused Suede Pruitt's death by pushing him and causing Suede to hit his head

Kidnapped Rebecca Lewis

Raped Carol Swift

Tried to rape Marty again (outside Rodi's, Luna hit him with a lead pipe to protect Marty and that's how he got his scar)

Escaped from prison

Killed Guy Armitage by blowing up his yacht

Tried to frame Patrick for the bombing

Held 14 people hostage in the Buchanan lodge to find out who killed Georgie Phillips

Shot at RJ Gannon

Helped Blair hide the fact that she shot Max

Set a bomb at the police station and tried to steal evidence

Accused of raping Blair on New Year's Eve; sentenced to 10 years in prison,(found innocent and released)

Fully aware that Kelly Cramer Buchanan was passing off Babe Chandler's baby as her own

Arrested for the murders of Margaret Corchran and her son

really?

Great list....but you forgot to add a few of his latest evil deeds....like teaming up with Ramsey to get rid of Gigi and Shane; threatening anyone and everyone in Llanview with bodily harm; kidnapping Marty and keeping her from her son; and of course....holding Spencer Truman hostage and applying the water torture to him.

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Andrea Evans is on The View right now.

I remembered to flip the channel over to ABC just in time to catch it.

I love Andrea. :)

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