Y&R: Significant Decline in Black Viewers?

[PJA]

Lily grew up in Paris and probably had well to do friends so she's going to more or less act like them. I had no problem with CK until Davetta a better actress was fired to bring her back. That just didn't make sense to me. However I don't want Lily to act like Dru and I don't know why people want Lily to act like her when in real life most people don't act like their parents.

[MoTheGreat]

But some kids do have some like qualities of one of their parents.

[DeeeDee]

Lily is very much like Dru.

...It's CK that isn't.

[JackPeyton]

I agree. Why are Karen & Niel together still?

Karen & Brad? Now that would be hot.

Y&R use to mix it up and just tell char driven storys and if a char was black or white or whatev it didnt mater. Now i feel like Karen, Niel, Devon, these newbies are all in one corner, and Lily gets out via Cane and thats it.

I dont want Lily to be just like dru/mioni dru. However she should be somewhat like her.

[crc]

Interesting discussion going on and I enjoy reading everyone's replies on this topic.

I'll just co-sign whatever DeeeDee has said and will say from this point on. LOL!

[PJA]

Lily is nothing like Dru. Dru would have had the streetsmarts and the sense to see through Chloe.

[DeeeDee]

Lily is VERY much like Drucilla.

CK is not.

Hence TPTB deliberately writing Lily as obtuse to Chloe which they didn't & wouldn't when Davetta played Lily.

[Darn]

They sure as shite wouldn't have done the P0RN story if Davetta was still around. And it's weird, it's not as though Lily and Daniel were unpopular when CK was around the first time, I guess LML just didn't see CK as a sexual creature? I'm not sure, but it was bizarre that as soon as she came back suddenly Daniel and Lily were split up. I guess they thought they'd appease the vocal MG and DS fans (like myself, I adored them)?

Can we talk about AMC? I'm still amazed that Angie and Jesse have yet to be destroyed/over 40 and frontburner/have BOTH of their kids on canvas. I'm waiting for the bottom to fall out and for Debbie and Darnell to walk away and like so many other soap stars talk about how disappointing the genre is now.

[DeeeDee]

It's only a matter of time till Angie's BFF Krystal talks her into engaging in random felonies at PVH & Jesse is made a strawman to prop Alpha Males Zach, Ryan, JR & Aidan.

[Darn]

I'm already worried that Jesse's new job (the one he's extremely unqualified for) is going to begin the marginalization of the Hubbards. God forbid he end up like Derek.

[PJA]

The writers write the characters the way they want to write them regardless of who is playing them and if the actress or actor can't deliver they will finde someone who will, and right now Lily is nothing like Dru.

[DeeeDee]

From your fingers to TPTB's ears.

Poor Cornelius is stuck trying to make his story with AbrasiveDogWhistle!Chick palatable & beautiful as YaYa is she can't make Brianne a good actress or Sterling any less gay,

Darnell & Debbi are magic but even they can't transcend endless amounts of agenda driven plot focused stories.

[MoTheGreat]

Talking about Jesse new police job. With all the crime that happens on soaps. It seems like soaps have no use for cops or a police station. The citizens are the jury, judge, the Detective, the cops.

When they have somebody as a cop they already try to phase them out. I must admit OLTL knows how to use their cops.

[DeeeDee]

Eh.

No they don't.

If they did Tammin's Colleen would have the same effect as Adrienne's or Judith's Gloria would be equal to JVA's, etc.

Lily the CHARACTER is, was & always will be very much like her mother.

It's the actress who never has & never will be able to convey that.

That's been the interesting thing.

Jesse hasn't even been on the job a week & he's already dealing with incessant vigilante "justice" (Ryan, Annie, Kendall, Babe, Zach, Aidan, Greenlee & JR).

[PJA]

They write Colleen the same why they did when Adrienne was playing her, it's just that Adrienne is a better actress. Lily on the other hand has never been written like Dru. And if she ALWAYS will be very much like her mother as you say, then again she wouldn't have put up with that porn mess nor would she still be friends with Chloe. It's clear the writers intended for Lily to be like she is now which is why they brought CK back. They want Lily to be a pampered valley type girl who was raised among rich folks in Paris which is the opposite of how Dru was raised.