Members DevotedToAMC Posted May 15, 2008 Members Share Posted May 15, 2008 *courtesy of yahoo! news...I am very proud of my state! * California's top court legalizes gay marriage By LISA LEFF, Associated Press Writer 4 minutes ago SAN FRANCISCO - California's Supreme Court declared gay couples in the nation's biggest state can marry — a monumental but perhaps short-lived victory for the gay rights movement Thursday that was greeted with tears, hugs, kisses and at least one instant proposal of matrimony. Same-sex couples could tie the knot in as little as a month. But the window could close soon after — religious and social conservatives are pressing to put a constitutional amendment on the ballot in November that would undo the Supreme Court ruling and ban gay marriage. "Essentially, this boils down to love. We love each other. We now have equal rights under the law," declared a jubilant Robin Tyler, a plaintiff in the case along with her partner. She added: "We're going to get married. No Tupperware, please." A crowd of people raised their fists in triumph inside City Hall, and people wrapped themselves in the rainbow-colored gay-pride flag outside the courthouse. In the Castro, the historic center of the gay community in San Francisco, Tim Oviatt wept as he watched the news on TV. "I've been waiting for this all my life. This is a life-affirming moment," he said. By the afternoon, gay and lesbian couples had already started lining up at San Francisco City Hall to make appointments to get marriage licenses. In West Hollywood, supporters were planning to serve "wedding cake" at an evening celebration. James Dobson, chairman of the conservative Christian group Focus on the Family, called the ruling an "outrage." "It will be up to the people of California to preserve traditional marriage by passing a constitutional amendment. ... Only then can they protect themselves from this latest example of judicial tyranny," he said in an e-mail statement. In its 4-3 ruling, the Republican-dominated high court struck down state laws against same-sex marriage and said domestic partnerships that provide many of the rights and benefits of matrimony are not enough. "In contrast to earlier times, our state now recognizes that an individual's capacity to establish a loving and long-term committed relationship with another person and responsibly to care for and raise children does not depend upon the individual's sexual orientation," Chief Justice Ronald George wrote for the majority in ringing language that delighted gay rights activists. Massachusetts is the only other state to legalize gay marriage, something it did in 2004. The California ruling is considered monumental by virtue of the state's size — 38 million out of a U.S. population of 302 million — and its historic role in the vanguard of the many social and cultural changes that have swept the country since World War II. California has an estimated 92,000 same-sex couples. "It's about human dignity. It's about human rights. It's about time in California," San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, pumping his fist in the air, told a roaring crowd at City Hall. "As California goes, so goes the rest of the nation. It's inevitable. This door's wide open now. It's going to happen, whether you like it or not." Unlike Massachusetts, California has no residency requirement for obtaining a marriage license, meaning gays from around the country are likely to flock to the state to be wed, said Jennifer Pizer, a gay-rights attorney who worked on the case. The ultimate reach of the ruling could be limited, however, since most states do not recognize gay marriages performed elsewhere. Nor does the federal government. The conservative Alliance Defense Fund said it would ask the justices for a stay of the decision until after the fall election in hopes of adding California to the list of 26 states that have approved constitutional amendments banning same-sex marriage. "We're obviously very disappointed in the decision. The remedy is a constitutional amendment. The constitution defines marriage as a union between one man and one woman," said Glen Lavy, senior counsel for the organization. Randy Thomasson of VoteYesMarriage.com, a campaign to amend the California Constitution to ban gay marriage, said the decision was in effect telling children that they have a "new role model — homosexual marriage, aspire to it. "This is a disaster," he said. Opponents of gay marriage could also ask the high court to reconsider. If the court rejects such a request, same-sex couples could start getting married in 30 days, the time it typically takes for the justices' opinions to become final. The justices said they would direct state officials "to take all actions necessary to effectuate our ruling," including requiring county marriage clerks to carry out their duties "in a manner consistent with" the court's decision. James Vaughn, director of the California Log Cabin Republicans, called the ruling a "conservative one." "The justices have ensured that the law treats all Californians fairly and equally. This decision is a good one for all families, gay and non-gay," Vaughn said. The case was set in motion in 2004 when the mayor of San Francisco — the unofficial capital of gay America — threw City Hall open to gay couples to get married in a calculated challenge to California law. Four-thousand gay couples wed before the Supreme Court put a halt to the practice after a month. Two dozen gay couples then sued, along with the city and gay rights organizations. Thursday's ruling could alter the dynamics of the presidential race and state and congressional contests in California and beyond by causing a backlash among conservatives and drawing them to the polls in large numbers. A spokesman for Republican John McCain, who opposes gay marriage, said the Arizona senator "doesn't believe judges should be making these decisions." The campaigns of Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton said they believe that the issue of marriage should be left to the states. Ten states now offer some form of legal recognition to same-sex couples — in most cases, domestic partnerships or civil unions. In the past few years, the courts in New York, New Jersey and Washington state have refused to allow gay marriage. Outside the San Francisco courthouse, gay marriage supporters cried and cheered as news spread of the decision. Jeanie Rizzo, one of the plaintiffs, called Pali Cooper, her partner of 19 years, via cell phone and asked, "Pali, will you marry me?" Shannon Minter of the National Center for Lesbian Rights said same-sex marriage advocates could not have hoped for a more favorable ruling by the Republican-dominated court. "It's a total victory," Minter said. California already offers same-sex couples who register as domestic partners many of the legal rights and responsibilities afforded to married couples, including the right to divorce and to sue for child support. Citing a 1948 California Supreme Court decision that overturned a ban on interracial marriages, the justices struck down the state's 1977 one-man, one-woman marriage law, as well as a similar, voter-approved law that passed with 61 percent in 2000. The chief justice was joined by Justices Joyce Kennard and Kathryn Werdegar, all three of whom were appointed by Republican governors, and Justice Carlos Moreno, the only member of the court appointed by a Democrat. In a dissent, Justice Marvin Baxter agreed with many arguments of the majority but said that the court overstepped its authority and that changes to marriage laws should be decided by the voters. Justices Ming Chin and Carol Corrigan also dissented. California's secretary of state is expected to rule by the end of June whether the sponsors gathered enough signatures to put the gay-marriage amendment on the ballot. Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who has twice vetoed legislation that would have granted marriage to same-sex couples, said in a statement that he respected the court's decision and "will not support an amendment to the constitution that would overturn this state Supreme Court ruling." ___ Associated Press writers Terence Chea, Jason Dearen, Juliana Barbassa and Evelyn Nieves in San Francisco and Liz Sidoti in Washington contributed to this report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted May 16, 2008 Members Share Posted May 16, 2008 does this mean i can marry a boy? becuase if so thats pretty awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DevotedToAMC Posted May 16, 2008 Author Members Share Posted May 16, 2008 LOL you can marry someone under the age of 18 but the parents need to sign off on it...and I also think statutory rape plays into this as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted May 16, 2008 Members Share Posted May 16, 2008 ahhh.. but i have strict no one under 25 rules. lol. i just call them boys because even tho i only go over 25.. they still are not men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SnCCorinthos4ever Posted May 16, 2008 Members Share Posted May 16, 2008 That is great news. I honestly believe that every one should be allowed to be who they are and be with whom they wan't to be with. As I have said before we all cry the same tears and we all bleed red. I don't what the color of a person's skin is, their nationality, religon or sexual prefernce is. It is who they are inside that matter's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TC Posted May 16, 2008 Members Share Posted May 16, 2008 Congratulations to California for joining the 21st century! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DevotedToAMC Posted May 16, 2008 Author Members Share Posted May 16, 2008 LOL I am under 25 so I am excused! Well, that is, under 25 for one more month and 12 days The thing is, Australia understands that kind of thing, along with universal health care. For some reason, certain Americans are too stupid to get these simple human rights We still have a battle to fight the opponents of same sex marriage who want to put an initiative on our November ballot to ban same sex marriage....but I think we are practical enough now rather than eight years ago (when the ban took place) to oppose such a ban and become the next state to legalize same sex marriage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kylie Posted May 16, 2008 Members Share Posted May 16, 2008 Viva California! For once, I'm very proud to live here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DevotedToAMC Posted May 16, 2008 Author Members Share Posted May 16, 2008 Isn't it about damn time we start getting a little more progressive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rxcats Posted May 16, 2008 Members Share Posted May 16, 2008 I seriously doubt that we will pass a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. I don't even think prop 22 would pass now. I believe we (California) have grown some since then. The next generation will be amazed that this was ever even an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted May 16, 2008 Members Share Posted May 16, 2008 i am LOLing at these people on the tv that are all angry an want to save marriage. "what if a father wants to mary his daughter? will be that ok? What if man wants to marry animal? will that be ok?" - i kid you not this was said. right because gays = incest and animal/human sex. someone needs to slap this asshat. and this other is all "we cant let this pass for the safty of marriage!" ... oh really? maybe you should be banning divorce? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan Posted May 16, 2008 Members Share Posted May 16, 2008 well damn.....I guess Jayan Cheyton has to wait until I turn 25 huh? 4 more years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted May 16, 2008 Members Share Posted May 16, 2008 Jayan Cheyton started before said rule and is the exception Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan Posted May 16, 2008 Members Share Posted May 16, 2008 Awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members XxTaraXx Posted May 16, 2008 Members Share Posted May 16, 2008 Good for them. I wonder if tourism will go up in Cali! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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