Members DeeeDee Posted March 7, 2008 Members Share Posted March 7, 2008 Dru did several times but with CK wanting less family scenes there was only so much VR could do. No they weren't. They actually did a very, very good job with that story. Those were the type of details VR (as a writer) wanted to incorporate. That's the problem with making Brad Jewish. Diamont (as well intentioned as he is) lacks the ability & sincerity to properly interpret the material (especially with Latham's horrible, plot driven writing). Had they given that story (as badly written as it was) to an actor like Doug Davidson it would've been much stronger. Amen. Not just Neil & Dru but Walter, Lillie Bell, Mamie, Olivia & Nate too. None of CKLily's relatives talk the way she does. It's like Tammin's Colleen speaking with her Australian accent as if Brad & Traci allowed her be raised by a band of kangaroos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted March 7, 2008 Members Share Posted March 7, 2008 Give Doug Davidson a storyline? why would anyone do that? i mean he is just a handsom guy and a good actopr with a long history! ndxt thing i know you will think of saying to give him a good meaty storyline and make it about him instead of using him as a plot pint.... lol. DeeDee, i just wanted to say thank you. Our converstaion throughout the day has been great and you have taught me a lot aboput Y&R's & GH's history i didnt know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted March 7, 2008 Members Share Posted March 7, 2008 LOL. That's crazy talk! Next you'll be telling us Jess Walton is an Emmy winner! Likewise. You've got some great ideas. Except that whole Sonny/Lainey thing. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted March 7, 2008 Members Share Posted March 7, 2008 Jess Walton? Who is that? That one chick who plays that woman who is that hot aussies dude mother that lives in that mansion with the older chick? she won an emmy? for what?! thank you. and to be fair that wasnt my idea, i just said they had chem.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MoTheGreat Posted March 7, 2008 Members Share Posted March 7, 2008 What's wrong with this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rhythmchyc Posted March 8, 2008 Members Share Posted March 8, 2008 What's up with these actors demanding so many things? Jeez. So sad for you if you don't want to work with someone. But, dammit, just do your job. As for the Devon storyline, I guess it's up to the viewer if it was good enough or not. I just thought that would've been a good opportunity for the writers to talk about Dru's foster family experience more. I'm not saying it was dreadful, as that was one of the last good Y&R storylines (I thought), but it could've been better. By you saying Victoria wanted to incorporate that type of storyline only proves how they haven't depicted her culture as well as they should've. But hey. Maybe WHEN she comes back, she'll get what she wants just like CK did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted March 8, 2008 Members Share Posted March 8, 2008 any actor that demans something or denys to do what is written needs to be axed, IMHO, unless they have a valid reason. fighting for your character is one thing, not wanting to interact with someone because you may not like them is another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Casey Posted March 8, 2008 Members Share Posted March 8, 2008 No Sonny/Lainey...Lainey and Lucky yeah...but I quit my GH problem a couple of weeks ago and it is an insult to ME...because GH tells me that 1) black characters are interchangeable and they're pretty blatant about it. Taggart leaves...here comes Justus...Justus leaves...Stan gets a bigger part...Stan leaves, here comes Cassius--never are they onscreen at the same time...any show that tells me over and over again that people who have the same tan as I do are not valued is an insult to ME and only ME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted March 8, 2008 Members Share Posted March 8, 2008 She discussed her past with him a lot cause he assumed she was some random rich lady. But ther It's an example of the way they USED to write for them. The Barber-Winters were always very cognizant of their ethnicity. It was when CKLily was cast that they started assimilating to the detriment of the family unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeeeDee Posted March 8, 2008 Members Share Posted March 8, 2008 Guza treats his black male characters horribly. He casts them as tokens or kills them off. Justus death was so unnecessary but then any Quartermaine death is unnecessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Casey Posted March 8, 2008 Members Share Posted March 8, 2008 Umm...er...I was perfectly fine with them killing off Emily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Money Posted March 8, 2008 Members Share Posted March 8, 2008 I absolutely agree. I'm tired of talking and I want action. If people are indeed serious about this then I am all for a well organized campaign calling for diversity. It entails a lot of work but I am sick to death with TPTB and their racist attitudes. A grassroots campaign can work. The "Yes, I can" video created by Will.i.am did wonders for Barack Obama. The campaign has to be on a large scale and the co-operation of all soap fans from all three networks are needed to attract the attention of ABC, CBS, and NBC. I hope people who are genuinely interested in seeing real diversity will will come together to achieve real change. This really isn't the forum to be proactive, however, I think it is the responsibility of fans to make the networks realize that their racist practices are completely unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Money Posted March 8, 2008 Members Share Posted March 8, 2008 My first choice for Nicholas is Gia. They can re-introduce the Campbells and have Tagert follow but I doubt Real Andrews will come back given the way he was treated. Both Gia and Targert were such popular characters and they were totally discarded. Recast-Gia lasted all of two seconds. Anyway, I really like the idea of Nik and Lainey. He and Nadine have zero chemistry and I have no idea what happened to Lainey and Cody. It's disgrace the way she's just languishing on the backburner because she's black when she pretty much has chemistry with everyone. There's so much that could be done with Epiphany that I cringe every time she yells, screams and smothers everyone in her token role. My problem with Sonny is that everyone refers to him as Caucasian, including himself. The only time we're reminded he's Hispanic is when the plot calls for it. It's a pattern GH has perpetuated for years and it's ridiculous. Ric is half Hispanic since they share the same mother and that part of his ethnicity is never even mentioned. Sigh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Quent Posted March 8, 2008 Members Share Posted March 8, 2008 Sorry, the lack of diversity on soaps doesn't bother me in the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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