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Show me where I have ever defended Aiden? You can't because I haven't.

At least Carly is interesting. AM was in the most episodes of any actor on any show in daytime. She was the number 1 airhog. LW wasn't even in the top 5, so I don't see the comparison. Kendull is painted as a saint while she she whores it up. Kendull's biggest sin is being a BORING slut. Boredom is a show killer and AMC deserves that 2.1. Zendull is killing our show and has been for over a year.

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