This is the Presidential Campaign Thread.

Barack Obama Vs. John McCain.

Edited November 6, 200817 yr by Toups

I think McCain is in direct opposition to Obama's k-12 stance, hence McCain's ad.....

And no article on his stance posted.

Now, many of us have posted links time and again and we have debated Obama's stance on the issue. But McCain's stance seems to be absent from these discussions.

Interesting.

Here's a question.

Where is McCain's plan for protecting kids against predators?

Okay, now this is where the community and school board members step in, working with local and state agencies, like local law enforcement.

And, Roman, programs already exist in most communities teaching kindergarteners how to protect themselves against predators. So why, again, did Barry H. wanna legislate sex-ed for kindergarteners? A sex-ed program isn't needed to educate children in methods to protect against a predator... unless you think it's important, Roman, to teach them why the bad man's penis grows, etc.

I don't think kindergarteners need to know about that from their teacher... do you?

Ooooh, Todd Palin getting state emails?

Weren't people all over Hillary's butt for being in Bill's business?

Was her daughter home-schooled?

Sorry, I'll stop. LOL.

It's not HIS bill. He voted for it but that doesn't make it HIS. If it does, then any bill that he's ever voted yes to would make them his, which would defeat the argument that he hasn't been part of anything.

Wasn't it said on CNN this evening from the lady from Factcheck.org that Obama neither wrote, sponsored or co-sponsored the bill?

While I don't agree that raising taxes is patriotic like Biden said....

Isn't it also ironic that Republicans play that patriotism card but don't want to fund what they're patriotic about?

How do Republicans not fund the treasury? They call for lower taxes, not an abolishment of taxes.

I feel it would be patriotic to ensure every class, including the class that provides jobs, benefit from tax breaks during tough economic times. Obama/Biden stance seems to be more "middle-classotic" than patriotic. They dont care about this country, they are trying to please the largest group by taxing the evil rich...its all about votes.

McCain wants to do what's best for the entire nation, not just the largest socioeconomic class!

Wasn't it said on CNN this evening from the lady from Factcheck.org that Obama neither wrote, sponsored or co-sponsored the bill?

He wasn't connected at all, except that he voted for it.

It's not HIS bill. He voted for it but that doesn't make it HIS. If it does, then any bill that he's ever voted yes to would make them his, which would defeat the argument that he hasn't been part of anything.

Banb... the popular opinion seems to be that Barry H. has been a part of lots of things -- lots of bills... he just has never written one that mattered.

Okay, now this is where the community and school board members step in, working with local and state agencies, like local law enforcement.

And, Roman, programs already exist in most communities teaching kindergarteners how to protect themselves against predators. So why, again, did Barry H. wanna legislate sex-ed for kindergarteners? A sex-ed program isn't needed to educate children in methods to protect against a predator... unless you think it's important, Roman, to teach them why the bad man's penis grows, etc.

I don't think kindergarteners need to know about that from their teacher... do you?

You seemed to be more interested about where the bad man;'s penis goes more than I do.

And didn't we already state that it would be a case-by-case decision, left up to the school board and community......or are you just now reading the article and it's finally sinking in?

How do Republicans not fund the treasury? They call for lower taxes, not an abolishment of taxes.

It's ALWAYS about lower taxes. Bush lowers taxes, the new Republican will want to lower them further, and the next further, etc. They're never okay.

He wasn't connected at all, except that he voted for it.

Right, and it died in commitee.

Banb... the popular opinion seems to be that Barry H. has been a part of lots of things -- lots of bills... he just has never written one that mattered.

I'm not one of the ones whining that he hasn't authored anything important. But people are connecting him to this sex-ed bill, but the only connection is that he voted for it. So if you're counting this bill as one of his because of that, then there's a huge list of "his" bills.

And no article on his stance posted.

Now, many of us have posted links time and again and we have debated Obama's stance on the issue. But McCain's stance seems to be absent from these discussions.

Interesting.

I'd guess McCain doesn't think kindergarteners need to know all about sex... Can you blame him?

And no article on his stance posted.

Now, many of us have posted links time and again and we have debated Obama's stance on the issue. But McCain's stance seems to be absent from these discussions.

Interesting.

McCain doesn't have or need a stance. Sex education is something that is selected and developed at local levels. Obama is the only candidate that has stepped into that territory.

Sorry, I probably wont be able to find an article about this...I know you love them so...

And speaking of sexual predators:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/18/foley.investigation/

Right, and it died in commitee.

He seemed to have an opinion about it, Roman... specifically, he liked the idea of teaching kindergarteners about sex. He didn't think the idea was an "unhealthy one".