Barack Obama Elected President!

[David_Vickers]

So you are ok with the rich getting their taxes cut by Republicans and the poor and middle class being hurt by George W. Bush and Dick Cheney and will continue to be so with McCain/Palin. War on terror---So you're ok with W/Dick attacking Iraq based on lies, and virtually ignoring going after Bin Ladin and not doing anything about Saudi Arabia, from which almost all of the 9/11 attackers were from and you're ok with the Bush admin. letting the Bin Ladin family leaving the US on 9/11 when all other aircraft except military were not allowed to fly. So you're ok with the W/Dick No Child Left Behind failure? So you're ok with rape and incest victims and women who may die giving birth being made to have their children no matter then consequences? So you're ok with the Republicans always causing this country record breaking budget deficits? So you're ok with anyone in America being able to purchase any type of gun? ....

[bandbfan]

Just wanted to throw something out there about guns...

I think there are two very different sides to gun control. I personally don't have any problem with guns are far as hunting goes. The problem I have comes from people in very urban areas having access to guns and becoming violent. I think that many republicans are blind to this problem and just see gun control as trying to stop them from having their sport, which I don't think is the case.

[Roman]

When you say very urban areas, do you mean the black & hispanic communities?

[David_Vickers]

I don't have a problem with guns used for hunting or even guns used for self-protection. I live in Kentucky and there are many rural areas in my state and even though I've never owned a gun or even shot a gun, I would own one if I lived in a rural area. But there are certian guns---such as machine guns, bullet-proof piercing bullets and guns that should be outlawed.

[Roman]

Now that is what IA with. To me, it really doesn't matter where you come from.....who needs a assault weapon?

[George008]

Yep. I could argue each of these points that you brought up but there would be no point. I dont think you even read the responses to your posts. You'll swoop back in, in a few days and post some more slanted nonsense, paying no attention to the replies of your comments. I dont mean to be rude, but if any of you dont believe me, just check back through this thread..

[George008]

I'm a believer in the very old cliche, guns dont kill people, people kill people. If this world had no guns, the bad people would find away to do damage to others.

In Switzerland, everyone has a gun. That is not an exageration. I will try to find an article on it. Guess what..Switzerland has the lowest murder rate and crime in the world.

Criminals shy away from using a gun when they know the person they are attacking will have one as well.

I just believe that we should have the right to protect ourselves by whatever means we like. Assault weapons are kind of overboard, but who's to say where the line is drawn.

You can twist the 2nd amendment however you like (it's outdated) or what have you, but the authors of the constitution intended for every American to be able to protect their rights. If someone misuses weapons they should be dealt with accordingly, and not punish the entire nation.

Think about it this way. They put the right to bear arms right behind freedom of speech, so it must have been important to them.

[Roman]

I will also say this.......there needs to be serious gun control in this country. This crap with anyone being able to get their hands on a gun needs to stop.

[Greg's GL]

IA. No one needs an AK-47. You aren't going to hunt with it. You aren't going to "protect yourself" with it. The only reason to have one is to actively seek out people to kill. End of story.

Yup.

What's up with this? I thought you wanted to discuss the issues? You are actually accusing someone else of posting "slanted nonsense"?? Hmmm. I wonder what your response would have been if someone said the same thing to you in a post. You probably would have taken offense to it, I'm sure.

This is the oldest, most pathetic cliche in the NRA's and RNC's handbook. GMAFB.

I would absolutely LOVE to read that article. I used to live in Europe, and I've never heard of this before.

I don't think that the Founding Fathers invisioned a time when someone would argue for AK-47s. IA it was important, and to a point it still is, but there are limits. You have to admit that. If you can propose a genuine reason for someone to own an assault rifle, I (and some others) would like to hear it.

IA. You have to be licensed to drive a car for crying out loud. And you simply need to wait X days before getting a gun??? It makes no sense. There should be a national database that is used for individuals attempting to purchase a gun. Surely, Repubs don't believe that someone convicted of a serious felony should be allowed to purchase a gun....

[Jess]

Thanks a bunch. I had in planted in my head that he was in both administrations. LOL.

I also agree with those who argue that they don't have a problem with owning guns, but saying there are certain types of guns people do not need. I also have no problem with background checks and denying mentally ill people access to guns.

[Roman]

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[bandbfan]

Whatever race lives in your local urban areas, whether it be black, white, hispanic, or something else. We have a mixed bag.

My hometown has one of the highest crime rates in the country for it's size. I really don't understand why people want to be able to go anywhere and get a gun at anytime with no kind of background check performed. I think there needs to be some kind of compromise, like what happens with airports. Americans have no desire to blow up planes, but those people (not Americans) who do, make it a necessity to have screenings. Is this not the same thing? Why should you be against screenings if you have nothing to hide?

I'm not really against the argument of having guns for protection, but I do want to play a little devil's advocate. In the communities that want to be able to carry guns, how likely are they really to need them? In rural Nebraska or Kansas? I can understand maybe NYC or someplace where all kinds of people are living in close proximity. I currently live in a city (not my hometown where crime is high) where there maybe one murder a month, probably less than that. Yet these people feel the need to have guns in their homes for protection? Why? Is this not the same mentality that Americans must drive SUVs and trucks?

[Roman]

That's why I feel the way I do about gun control. Other countries ahev more strict gun laws than we do, and the crime rates may be lower than they are here. Of course our population is bigger, and there is no easy fix for everything, but I still say why are high-powered weapons needed?

Have something in your home, if you so choose, that will make a jackass who broke in really think "Damn. This was NOT the right move".

[George008]

I wanted to let Mulder know that I will not be replying to his questions that he brings out of my posts. I have taken the time several times in the past (check back through) to contest every one of his arguments, but each time he returns he does the same thing. He ignores what he brought up before and posts something completely different. I happen to feel that Republicans hurting the middle class and the poor is nonsense! Bush did and McCain proposes to give all classes tax cuts. Mulder posts nothing of substance. I am not trying to start a fight or divert from the issues, but I wanted this out in the open so that we may get back to the issues. Hope that makes sense.

It's a classic (old) cliche for a reason. It's true! If people did not have guns to kill with, they would find other methods, simple as that! Murders occured in our history long long long before the invention of the gun.

Here you go...

The Swiss & Guns - Proven Success!

I haven't been a proponent of assault rifles, but I can sum up why some feel they are needed. Many believe in the need for emergency militia and defense. For example, another country invades, we experience a natural disaster, or somehow the government colapses and is no longer in power leaving people fend for themselves. Whatever other doomsday scenarios you can think of.. Although, highly unlikely that this need will ever arouse. It is possible. I dont see how anyone can tell another they cant own a particular gun in our free country. If they misuse it, throw them in jail!

Can you tell me the last time a common thug murdered someone with an assault rifle in our country?

We already have these mandates and regulations set in place. You do have to wait seven days for a handgun. The do a background check and register your name in the database, attached with that particular weapon. Felons cannot own guns. Dog the Bounty Hunter is a case in point. He is a convicted felon, therefore he has to use mase to catch his bounties..LOL..Many of these regulations were put into effect with the Brady Bill.

[George008]

If more people had guns on them, this is what the thought would be every where ("Damn. This was NOT the right move". ), not just in someone's home...Like in Switzerland.