I don't usually comment on Politics but this is too funny

I don't usually comment on Politics but this is too funny

I saw it on another soap board actually.I thought it was hilarious.

McCain picked a woman to try to get hillary's supporters, nice try but no cigar. Who in the world is this woman, she just came out of the blue.

Edited August 29, 200817 yr by EricaKane70

Who in the world is this woman

His next wife. lol

His next wife. lol

I don't know about that, but she looks better than his wife.

I don't know about that, but she looks better than his wife.

His wife looks like a Peruvian Sand Spider. lol

His wife looks like a Peruvian Sand Spider. lol

She looks like she's had waay too much work done, enough is enough.

I saw it on another soap board actually.I thought it was hilarious.

And you're right. Plus it doesn't require any reading or thinking on my part so a hearty Thank You!!!!

Since I'm not voting for John McCain anyway then I don't really care if he picked a former beauty contestant every woman to be his running mate. More power to her if she ends up being president. It'll be a woman running the show no matter how it happened and maybe she'll pick better advisors than he will.

I don't think a green governor and a green senator are the same thing. Unless I am missing something then one is representing a state on a national level and one is just representing a state and it's not even a state like NY or good ole California. Obama at least has the comfort level of having met foreign dignitaries and heads of states. Even the mayor of Los Angeles has more diplomatic experience than she has (mainly because he doesn't seem to know what he was elected to do) so I'll go all out and say it's a bunch of BS to say they're in the same pod in terms of inexperience. He's got more qualitative "inexperience" than she does. I'm sure she can pick it all up but right now it's a lie to say that she has a clue about running the country........or else you may as well say I do since I've given it a couple of hours more thought.

All I know is I am going to enjoy the bickering over her. I wish the media would take some time out to start something between Ferraro and Clyburn. That might be more interesting than watching the puppet show.

Not that this makes a huge difference but to those of you advancing old John McCain's age, I believe he just turned 72 today. I get a kick out of hearing senior citizens saying he's too old o be president. I don't think it's that he's too old. I think a dandelion blowing in the wind is less flaky than he is but then again it's can go a lot further than his decisiveness and that makes no sense at all but that's how I feel about whatever he's been muttering.

She looks like she's had waay too much work done, enough is enough.

Amen.

She always looks like someone surprised her.

Amen.

She always looks like someone surprised her.

I think she looks like she's addicted to pills and it may not be the case but she just looks that way.

Again? lol

She is limited in experiance, however where she lacks he picks up. Much like where Obama lacks experiance his mate has a good amount.

as for people unfairly judging her as a parent, Ryan said it better than i ever could.

I think she is an intersting choice. I will have to find out more about her because a few hours is far to short to judge a person. for me anyways...

I do not think they picked her just because she is a womana nd they think hilarys woman will just flock to her. I think he picked an intersting choice that seems to stand her ground and isnt one to back down. A person to seems to step up and take charge and make change when its needed. Someone who has taken on just not 'the other side' but her own side as well.

I do think she will attract some woman just because she is a woman just like obama will attract some of his own race just because and mccain will attract older people just because he is as well. some people will vote for those reasons alone just like they will not for someone based on those reasons alone. if you do or dont vote for someone on superficial reasons alone its wrong. all around. and i think people need to resurch all of these people and see where they fall.

and i must admit, as someone who does that its so hard. because everyone seems to have a baised to one side or the other. im not either side, and i dont plan on it. i wish there was a site or outlet that just showed the facts and let me chose and form my own thoguhts instead of stearing me twords one or the other. (and no, im hoenstly not talking about people in this thread because yall go back and fourth and discuss the facts and i learn a lot as well following every link posted and reading more and more... dam its a lot of work to decide who to vote for)

I really think they are both on equal ground now. McCain having someone without too much experiance and young. Obama with someone with more experaince than him. I think its time to let the age and experiance thing go for the most part because at this point i think just about everyone knows how old everyone is and the experiance they have. I think its time to start talking about not the stance they have but the PLAN they have. Because i can goe tiher way even tho i am leaving twords McCain for several reasons.

I do have one question for everyone. I reg to vote as an indie. When i went to vote for the primary or whatever a few months ago they said i cant vote for the reblicns unless i am a reg republicin. is that bulshit and they r whack or the truth? does the same stand for the pres election? (and also, im sorry if there r more typos and bad spelling in this post because i just worked all night and am not feeling well. so sorry)

You won't have any problem voting in Nov.

I am over joyed at John McCain's pick!

Very exciting times we live in.

I Spent Years as a POW with John McCain, and His Finger Should Not Be Near the Red Button

By Phillip Butler, Military.com

Posted on August 21, 2008

John McCain is a long-time acquaintance of mine that goes way back to our time together at the U.S. Naval Academy and as Prisoners of War in Vietnam. He is a man I respect and admire in some ways. But there are a number of reasons why I will not vote for him for President of the United States.

When I was a Plebe (4th classman, or freshman) at the Naval Academy in 1957-58, I was assigned to the 17th Company for my four years there. In those days we had about 3,600 midshipmen spread among 24 companies, thus about 150 midshipmen to a company. As fortune would have it, John, a First Classman (senior) and his room mate lived directly across the hall from me and my two room mates. Believe me when I say that back then I would never in a million or more years have dreamed that the crazy guy across the hall would someday be a Senator and candidate for President!

John was a wild man. He was funny, with a quick wit and he was intelligent. But he was intent on breaking every USNA regulation in our 4 inch thick USNA Regulations book. And I believe he must have come as close to his goal as any midshipman who ever attended the Academy. John had me "coming around" to his room frequently during my plebe year. And on one occasion he took me with him to escape "over the wall" in the dead of night. He had a taxi cab waiting for us that took us to a bar some 7 miles away. John had a few beers, but forbid me to drink (watching out for me I guess) and made me drink cokes. I could tell many other midshipman stories about John that year and he unbelievably managed to graduate though he spent the majority of his first class year on restriction for the stuff he did get caught doing. In fact he barely managed to graduate, standing 5th from the bottom of his 800 man graduating class. I and many others have speculated that the main reason he did graduate was because his father was an Admiral, and also his grandfather, both U.S. Naval Academy graduates.

People often ask if I was a Prisoner of War with John McCain. My answer is always "No - John McCain was a POW with me." The reason is I was there for 8 years and John got there 2 1/2 years later, so he was a POW for 5 1/2 years. And we have our own seniority system, based on time as a POW.

John's treatment as a POW:

1) Was he tortured for 5 years? No. He was subjected to torture and maltreatment during his first 2 years, from September of 1967 to September of 1969. After September of 1969 the Vietnamese stopped the torture and gave us increased food and rudimentary health care. Several hundred of us were captured much earlier. I got there April 20, 1965 so my bad treatment period lasted 4 1/2 years. President Ho Chi Minh died on September 9, 1969, and the new regime that replaced him and his policies was more pragmatic. They realized we were worth a lot as bargaining chips if we were alive. And they were right because eventually Americans gave up on the war and agreed to trade our POW's for their country. A damn good trade in my opinion! But my point here is that John allows the media to make him out to be THE hero POW, which he knows is absolutely not true, to further his political goals.

2) John was badly injured when he was shot down. Both arms were broken and he had other wounds from his ejection. Unfortunately this was often the case -- new POW's arriving with broken bones and serious combat injuries. Many died from their wounds. Medical care was non-existent to rudimentary. Relief from pain was almost never given and often the wounds were used as an available way to torture the POW. Because John's father was the Naval Commander in the Pacific theater, he was exploited with TV interviews while wounded. These film clips have now been widely seen. But it must be known that many POW's suffered similarly, not just John. And many were similarly exploited for political propaganda.

3) John was offered, and refused, "early release." Many of us were given this offer. It meant speaking out against your country and lying about your treatment to the press. You had to "admit" that the U.S. was criminal and that our treatment was "lenient and humane." So I, like numerous others, refused the offer. This was obviously something none of us could accept. Besides, we were bound by our service regulations, Geneva Conventions and loyalties to refuse early release until all the POW's were released, with the sick and wounded going first.

4) John was awarded a Silver Star and Purple Heart for heroism and wounds in combat. This heroism has been played up in the press and in his various political campaigns. But it should be known that there were approximately 600 military POW's in Vietnam. Among all of us, decorations awarded have recently been totaled to the following: Medals of Honor -- 8, Service Crosses -- 42, Silver Stars -- 590, Bronze Stars -- 958 and Purple Hearts -- 1,249. John certainly performed courageously and well. But it must be remembered that he was one hero among many -- not uniquely so as his campaigns would have people believe.

John McCain served his time as a POW with great courage, loyalty and tenacity. More than 600 of us did the same. After our repatriation a census showed that 95% of us had been tortured at least once. The Vietnamese were quite democratic about it. There were many heroes in North Vietnam. I saw heroism every day there. And we motivated each other to endure and succeed far beyond what any of us thought we had in ourselves. Succeeding as a POW is a group sport, not an individual one. We all supported and encouraged each other to survive and succeed. John knows that. He was not an individual POW hero. He was a POW who surmounted the odds with the help of many comrades, as all of us did.

I furthermore believe that having been a POW is no special qualification for being President of the United States. The two jobs are not the same, and POW experience is not, in my opinion, something I would look for in a presidential candidate.

Most of us who survived that experience are now in our late 60's and 70's. Sadly, we have died and are dying off at a greater rate than our non-POW contemporaries. We experienced injuries and malnutrition that are coming home to roost. So I believe John's age (73) and survival expectation are not good for being elected to serve as our President for 4 or more years.

I can verify that John has an infamous reputation for being a hot head. He has a quick and explosive temper that many have experienced first hand. Folks, quite honestly that is not the finger I want next to that red button.

It is also disappointing to see him take on and support Bush's war in Iraq, even stating we might be there for another 100 years. For me John represents the entrenched and bankrupt policies of Washington-as-usual. The past 7 years have proven to be disastrous for our country. And I believe John's views on war, foreign policy, economics, environment, health care, education, national infrastructure and other important areas are much the same as those of the Bush administration.

I'm disappointed to see John represent himself politically in ways that are not accurate. He is not a moderate Republican. On some issues he is a maverick. But his voting record is far to the right. I fear for his nominations to our Supreme Court, and the consequent continuing loss of individual freedoms, especially regarding moral and religious issues. John is not a religious person, but he has taken every opportunity to ally himself with some really obnoxious and crazy fundamentalist ministers lately. I was also disappointed to see him cozy up to Bush because I know he hates that man. He disingenuously and famously put his arm around the guy, even after Bush had intensely disrespected him with lies and slander. So on these and many other instances, I don't see that John is the "straight talk express" he markets himself to be.

Senator John Sidney McCain, III is a remarkable man who has made enormous personal achievements. And he is a man that I am proud to call a fellow POW who "Returned With Honor." That's our POW motto. But since many of you keep asking what I think of him, I've decided to write it out. In short, I think John Sidney McCain, III is a good man, but not someone I will vote for in the upcoming election to be our President of the United States.

Okay so John McCain only met his running mate once and she has no idea what his platform is nor did she ever give any thought to Iran/Iraq. Out of the box.....wonderful. Wise and thoughtful decision......really?