This is what John McCain had to say about Russia "In the 21 century nations don't invade other nations."

Does anyone want to see this man in the White FREAKING House?

I guess he forgot that we kind a sort Mr.Bush invaded 2 nations.

Hillary is back in.

Hillary is back in.

Are you referring to her speaking at the convention?

'Sorry. I didn't read my news page before I posted this.

Edited August 14, 200817 yr by Wales2004

Clinton's name to be placed for Nomination.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,2...5005961,00.html

Clinton to be nominated at convention

DEMOCRATS Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, bidding to heal wounds still festering from their bitter scrap for the White House nomination, agreed today to put her name up for a convention vote.

The symbolic vote will allow the former first lady's supporters to have their say at the August 25-28 convention in Denver, and then the party can move on to take the fight to Republican John McCain, the erstwhile rivals said.

But it could also bring lingering tensions bubbling back to the fore, with pro-Clinton groups angered at her primary loss already planning to rally in Denver ahead of the nominating ballot on August 27.

"I am convinced that honouring Senator Clinton's historic campaign in this way will help us celebrate this defining moment in our history and bring the party together in a strong, united fashion," Senator Obama said.

Senator Clinton said: "With every voice heard and the party strongly united, we will elect Senator Obama president of the United States and put our nation on the path to peace and prosperity once again."

The decision means that delegates in Denver will hold a "roll-call" vote to formally enter Senator Clinton's achievement - she won nearly 18 million primary votes - into the record.

The race ran all the way into June, and Senator Clinton ultimately came up short as party grandees known as "superdelegates" rallied to Senator Obama.

"After the state-by-state roll is tallied, Mrs Clinton is expected to turn over her cache of delegates to Senator Barack Obama," the New York Times reported.

"So how will Mrs Clinton, who is a superdelegate herself, vote? Associates say she will throw her lot behind Mr Obama and ask her supporters to follow suit," it said.

In a YouTube video from a California fundraiser last month, Senator Clinton told her supporters that a roll-call vote would provide "catharsis" for the Democratic Party after its months-long nominating fight.

Senator Clinton herself is due to address the convention in prime-time on August 26. Her husband, former president Bill Clinton, will speak on the next night when the ballot takes place.

After the ballot, Senator Obama's vice presidential nominee is scheduled to address the delegates.

Hillary Clinton's billing the night before would appear to preclude her from being the VP pick - and many of her more diehard supporters say the only way they will countenance voting for Senator Obama is with her on the ticket.

But prominent Democrats who sided with the New York senator, the once "inevitable" nominee because of her and Bill Clinton's long standing as Democratic royalty, are now pledging fealty to Senator Obama.

"There are many, many fine choices Senator Obama can make (for VP)," Ohio Governor Ted Strickland said at an automotive conference in Michigan.

"My first choice would be Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, obviously, but I have no reason to believe that will happen and I have no idea who the final choice will be," he said.

According to widespread reports, both camps have been debating for weeks the former first lady's demand for a public acknowledgement at the convention of her prolonged battle for the Democratic nomination.

But they said the initiative came from the Illinois senator.

"Senator Obama's campaign encouraged Senator Clinton's name to be placed in nomination as a show of unity and in recognition of the historic race she ran and the fact that she was the first woman to compete in all of our nation's primary contests," it said.

"Senator Obama and Senator Clinton are looking forward to a convention unified behind Barack Obama as the party's nominee and to victory this fall for America."

Clinton's name to be placed for Nomination.

I don't think this is going to fix things for her supporters that are still angry for whatever their reasons are. At this point if they haven't been able to move on then they cannot be placated. It might even serve as a reminder for people who've moved on but aren't exactly all smiles on both sides.

Clinton's name to be placed for Nomination.

Why are the Hillary supporters having such a hard time rallying behind Obama? McCain was not my first choice for the Rep nom., but he has my support. It just seems damaging to all dems to keep this going. There are less than 3 months before the general election.

Edited August 14, 200817 yr by Casey008

Why are the Hillary supporters having such a hard time rallying behind Obama? McCain was not my first choice for the Rep nom., but he has my support. It just seems damaging to all dems to keep this going. There are less than 3 months before the general election.

It is damaging to the dems for this kind of stuff to go on. I liked Hillary, but my patience with her and her supporters is gone.

Who was your first choice?

It is damaging to the dems for this kind of stuff to go on. I liked Hillary, but my patience with her and her supporters is gone.

Who was your first choice?

Huckabee. I'm a big Fair Tax advocate.

Huckabee. I'm a big Fair Tax advocate.

I saw him give a speech once. I'm a Democrat and had a tough time choosing between Hillary and Obama. I decided on Obama when I cast my primary ballot. Anyway, LOL, I saw Huckabee give a speech once. He gave a very good speech and I thought he came off as a little bit of a populist. I thought he connected well with a lot blue collar folks who were in the crowd. He has a lot of charisma. I might add, he plays the guitar very well!

On a related note, this board has better and more informed political chats than about any I participate in. It is a great group of people who post on this thread. I wish I could get some of the classes I teach at a university to discuss politics as passionately and knowledgeably as folks in this thread.

I saw him give a speech once. I'm a Democrat and had a tough time choosing between Hillary and Obama. I decided on Obama when I cast my primary ballot. Anyway, LOL, I saw Huckabee give a speech once. He gave a very good speech and I thought he came off as a little bit of a populist. I thought he connected well with a lot blue collar folks who were in the crowd. He has a lot of charisma. I might add, he plays the guitar very well!

On a related note, this board has better and more informed political chats than about any I participate in. It is a great group of people who post on this thread. I wish I could get some of the classes I teach at a university to discuss politics as passionately and knowledgeably as folks in this thread.

IA. I appreciate the differing view points. Like you said in an earlier post, this is what makes our country great.

Yeah, Huckabee is very charasmatic and intelligent. I had never heard of him before he ran for president, he came out of no where to make a name for himself.

Hillary Clinton is NOT trying to take the nomination from Barack Obama. This is symbolic and done in tribute to Hillary and her campaign and supportors.

Hillary Clinton is NOT trying to take the nomination from Barack Obama. This is symbolic and done in tribute to Hillary and her campaign and supportors.

I hope so Mulder. I never can tell what really is going on until it happens. The media tends to start a fight where there is not one and that may be the case here. Hillary and President Clinton both deserve attention at the convention. He's a former president and certainly deserves a key speaking role on primetime.

Hillary Clinton is NOT trying to take the nomination from Barack Obama. This is symbolic and done in tribute to Hillary and her campaign and supportors.

Tell that to some of her supporters because they are getting ready yo do just that!

No matter how it plays out, I think it makes the Democrats look weak and it makes Obama look weak. Maybe his camp is thinking that VP night and his speech will be such a spectacular event the media won't dwell on the whole Clinton drama.

In a race where one person finishes just a bit behind of the winner, it doesn't change the outcome. They're not giving out gold medals at the Olympics to the competitors who came in second. All Hilary Clinton should have gotten was a speaking spot period not a whole night dedicated to her with video and roll call and whatever else they may come up with to celebrate the fact that she ran up a debt that she wanted Obama's supporters to pay off.

You know on second thought if that whole night is the trade off for them not resolving her debt then dedicate the whole convention to her. Who cares who the nominee and his VP selection are. It's not as if the convention is even about them anyway,