Barack Obama Elected President!

[DevotedToAMC]

Not a chance. I don't go that low

The Democrat Party may have no choice if both candidates have an agreement. We might be better off seating the MI and FL delegates because, if we don't, then both MI and FL people will vote Republican this November and we lose both states...they are critical to a win. And the backlash with seating them (which there would be) can be quieted with having a Hillary/Obama ticket.

The other possibilities I listed do not have merit and I explained why...I can't think of another agreement that would work besides the one above.

You don't know that she won't win...if they seat MI and FL (which is smart right now..for more, see what I just wrote), she gets it.

[Roman]

No, she doesn't.

[Southofnowhere]

The peeps from FL and MI aren't even looking for the results to be counted so i'm not sure what your saying.

The only person looking for Hillary's results (Which Obama would sue over) to be counted is Hillary!

It's just not going to happen to will be split right down the middle ir halfed!

THis whole thing about Obama (Who's winning) to be Hillary's runningmate is NEVER going to happend!

There;s noway the Drms are going to let this be decided by a back room deal.

They would lose many many Black and young voters FOREVER!

[Roman]

Well, some don't see it that way.

They think that we all will still vote for her even though she lost the primaries.

If she did get it that way.......some people are in for a VERY rude awakening.

[Roman]

Here's something I didn't know.

A TN blogger is challenging the media and Clinton's claims

Brendan Loy: Dear members of the press,

Today's New York Times highlights Hillary Clinton's claim of a lead in the "popular vote." The article discusses the controversy surrounding Florida and Michigan, but it barely mentions the two most intellectually dishonest aspects of Senator Clinton's tally:

* Her count totally and deliberately excludes the states of Iowa, Nevada, Maine and Washington, even though it is perfectly possible to include reasonable estimates of those states' popular-vote totals. Senator Clinton has chosen to ignore these states, and yet she has the audacity to claim that she is the one who wants to count every vote, in all 50 states. That claim is flatly untrue. Senator Clinton says, "we cannot claim that we have a nominee based on 48 states" -- yet she is only counting, at most, 46 states! She is ignoring four whole states, which held indisputably valid elections, simply because their inclusion would give Senator Obama a combined 110,000-vote boost and thus eliminate Senator Clinton's 26,000-vote "lead."

Previously: Senator Clinton is arguing that Iowa and Nevada do not count -- while Michigan and Florida do. This is perverse, indefensible, and must not stand. I urge you to use your influence with the Clinton campaign to insist that they count the votes of Iowa, Nevada, Maine and Washington in any "popular vote" tally that their campaign uses.

So..........she is leaving out certain states, and basing her popular vote total on this?!

[Ryan]

This is my entire problem with Michigan and Florida......the candidates knew they weren't going to be given any delegates from those states b/c of the sanctions for moving their primaries up. They know this and still agreed to the rules. Now she feels they should be seated. Yet a few months ago it didn't matter. I'm tired of her trying to change the rules.

[Wales2004]

IA that she should abide by the agreement she willingly signed. I'm also not trying to figure out the special math methods that are used in her favor. And I don't get how anyone can say that Obama is going to give HRC what she wants pertaining to MI and FL and settle for VP without seeing how someone else might find that laughable. If in the reverse positions, one can find it logical that HRC would give in to Obama's request to disregard the rules so he can be the nominee and she can be his VP then okay.

I don't care if she wants to stay in to ensure every vote counts (or whatever selective votes count). She's right under the argument that neither has reached the specific number. The problem with her sticking around is the divisiveness to the party and that's the one thing the Republicans have done right in terms of not taking it to the point where other candidates within their parter would cause damage to their nominee.

The Democrats are past the point where they can say this protracted primary season is going to toughen the nominee. It's not when you have one complaining that the other won't debate her and would rather talk to large crowds and essentially claiming that sexism is keeping her from getting the nomination.

[Dr. Jay S.W.]

Kennedy has a Brain Tumor. Not a good sign.

[EricaKane70]

I feel also that they should uphold the rules but on the other hand it will piss those voters off in MI and FL, should they be punished for the states mistake? I don't think they should and what happens if they don't turn out for the democrats in the fall? There needs to be some way where their votes count. The best way to do that would be a re-vote but I don't see that happening.

[Roman]

Then what needs to be done is either they are nots eated at all, or do it in a fashion that benifits both candidates.

[Roman]

My thoughts and prayers go to the "Liberal Lion" and his family.

Jack and Bobby may have been my mother's Kennedys, but Teddy is mine, and I hope God grants him strength and peace in this hour.

From CNN:

Poll: Obama gaining support with key Clinton demographics

Posted: 01:40 PM ET

(CNN) – A day after Sen. Hillary Clinton declared that the Democratic nomination fight was “nowhere near over,” polling data released Tuesday suggest Clinton is losing ground with key demographic groups that have powered her campaign so far.

Sen. Barack Obama’s 16-point lead over Clinton in the latest Gallup daily tracking poll of Democrats and Democratic-leaning voters comes from even higher support among groups that have been supporting him throughout the primary race, and from newfound support among several groups that have backed Clinton.

Obama leads or ties Clinton among women, Easterners, whites, adults with no college education, and Hispanics, with the New York senator’s support now below 50 percent in each group, according to Gallup. Both are backed by 47 percent of white voters surveyed, and Obama is essentially tied with Clinton – 47 percent to 46 percent – among Democrats whose education level is a high school diploma or less.

Clinton’s advantage among women overall seems to have evaporated, with Obama now holding a lead within the survey’s three point margin of error, 49 percent to 46 percent. Hispanics favor Obama over Clinton by 7 percentage points, 51 percent to 44 percent. And Obama now leads among voters in Eastern states by 9 percentage points over Clinton – 52 percent to 43 percent.

Clinton’s standing with whites has fallen by five percentage points during the month of May. With Hispanics, Clinton has lost eight percentage points in the same time period. Clinton’s support with Easterners has fallen by seven percentage points and with women, Clinton has last four percentage points in May. Women age 50 or older is the only major demographic group where a majority, 52 percent, still support the New York senator.

Obama’s support among voters with postgraduate education, voters with monthly incomes of at least $5000, and men – has grown to the point that, he now leads Clinton by a margin of 2-to-1. Among voters 29 or younger, Obama leads Clinton by a margin of nearly 3-to-1.

Gallup’s results released Tuesday are based on a survey of 1,261 Democratic and Democratic-leaning voters using combined data from May 16-18, 2008. The survey has a margin of error of plus or minus three percentage points. Gallup’s May 1-13 daily tracking poll results are based on a survey of 5,474 Democratic or Democratic-leaning voters. The May 1-13 survey results have a margin of error of plus or minus one percentage point.

[Southofnowhere]

MY Prayers are with Ted Kennedy and his Family!

Is that Great Family ever going to get a break?

As for the polls hopefully they'll will hold up and this thing can be finally over.

Hillary is doing all she can to fire up Woman by telling them she's not winning because she's a woman.

Of Course in her next breath she says she is winning so what's does being a woman have to do with it!

A say half the FL seats and split them right down the middle for MI.

Obama's name was not on the MI Ballot and he would have won it if it was so there's noway Clinton should get a advantage in MI.

Obama aired Ads in fl and Clintion would have won it anyway so i have cut the seats in half and give Clinton a small advantage!

And when Clinton says all votes should eb counted what she really mean sis all her vlotes should be counted!

[Wales2004]

If the voters in MI and FL are pissed off then they should direct their anger at their state party officials who violated party rules. The state didn't make a mistake, their state party officials did. If they decide not to vote for the Democrats in a national election based on what their state party officials did then that's entirely on them since they'll be forgoing the vote that matters most.

[Southofnowhere]

The crazy thing is that the way it turned out the later State's ended up with a lot more clout!

[Wales2004]

You know what? California went early under the notion that the state would finally have say in deciding the nominee and that seemed to have worked well. Now we have our regular primary on June 3rd which amounts to an additional ballot to mail in and I don't even want to know how much it cost to do this. The irony is that we could have had more of an impact now than earlier.