This is the Presidential Campaign Thread.

Barack Obama Vs. John McCain.

Edited November 6, 200817 yr by Toups

She maybe should saty in until Next week, just so she can leave on her own terms.

But anything after the end of the month makes her look worse than what she already does.

He is the Democratic nominee. The only way she now can win this is.....

A. Make some back room deal with SDs that will piss off every single Obama supporter and destroy the party.

B. If he takes his name of the ballot in the remaining states.

Or.......

C. If he puts on whites sheets and a white hood, does the Nazi salute while saying Heil Hitler and goose stepping across a stage.

Obama has to do what he has to do. He doesn't owe her a thing.

They don't really owe each other anything....but it would be smart for them to be the ticket

But I think Hillary has too many people around her saying tally on and no one who is telling her that it is time to stop.

It should only stop when one reaches 2,025...I said earlier that it might turn out that neither one gets to 2,025. If that is the case, it will have to come to a negotiated agreement between both sides. In that negotiaton, Hillary would easily win just because nobody can beat The Clintons in negotiations. They are named Bonnie and Clyde Clinton for a reason

If he puts on whites sheets and a white hood, does the Nazi salute while saying Heil Hitler and goose stepping across a stage.

This is more something McCain would do

It should only stop when one reaches 2,025...I said earlier that it might turn out that neither one gets to 2,025. If that is the case, it will have to come to a negotiated agreement between both sides. In that negotiaton, Hillary would easily win just because nobody can beat The Clintons in negotiations. They are named Bonnie and Clyde Clinton for a reason

Well they are called that for a lot of reasons. LOL. There is no way. The party will not take the nomination away from the candidate with the most delegates, regardless of whether they hit 2,025.

She maybe should saty in until Next week, just so she can leave on her own terms.

But anything after the end of the month makes her look worse than what she already does.

He is the Democratic nominee. The only way she now can win this is.....

A. Make some back room deal with SDs that will piss off every single Obama supporter and destroy the party.

B. If he takes his name of the ballot in the remaining states.

Or.......

C. If he puts on whites sheets and a white hood, does the Nazi salute while saying Heil Hitler and goose stepping across a stage.

I sign off on this.

I guess it's true, when to get out is her call. She has already loaned her campaign $6 million.

She's actually loaned her campaign over $11 million. There was the initial $5 million awhile back and the recent three incremental loans. She may end up loaning more. She will be able to recoup so I don't think it's that big of an issue. I guess she shouldn't call Obama elitist since most people can't float loans like that.

Yes it's her call as to when to get out and yes the pursuit of her dream is at stake. It depends on where you're sitting as to how you view this. I think the Democrats already look bad for letting this go as far and it's a nice spin to call it a good fight, etc. but it took a very nasty tone which did damage. The positive spin on that is that it was a learning experience for Obama at least because I don't think Hilary Clinton got anything out of it.

Mitt Romney could have very well stayed in the Republican race and picked up speed against McCain because he wanted to be a die hard but the Republicans sat him down and let him know that this is not how they do things. The Democrats on the other hand, could have asked Hilary Clinton to at least play clean while she stayed in this and they didn't put her in check because they simply can't. Now they want to say she can stay and play but in neutered mode, hence, it's okay as long as it doesn't get negative. They're in effect showing that they don't run a tight ship like the Republicans do.

They're lucky that people are disillusioned with George Bush because this fiasco would have stronger ramifications otherwise.

One of the costs of this is how the demographics of the Democrats keeps getting trotted out daily. I'm sure it has some sort of effect on some people subconsciously when you keep hearing that blue collar white people are voting for Hilary Clinton, black people for Obama, Hispanics for her, young people for him blah blah. Then the media says Hilary Clinton is pointing out how she fares with white voters, etc to prove her that she's more electable than Obama and it sounds divisive among other things. This is not at all good for that party. It's exposed a lot of the ugliness that people weren't privy too previously and this is what the Clinton grab for power has wrought and this is going to be part of their legacy, especially if Obama gets elected. There is no way that you'll see his complete biography without seeing a blurb on the nastiness that occurred on the road to the White House. Blind ambition is destructive and the Democrats need to go back and reevaluate their structure because this should never happen again if they want to keep their party strong and not have defection to a third Independent party.

They don't really owe each other anything....but it would be smart for them to be the ticket

It doesn't matter what she owes him. She lost.

He doesn't need her.

It should only stop when one reaches 2,025...I said earlier that it might turn out that neither one gets to 2,025. If that is the case, it will have to come to a negotiated agreement between both sides. In that negotiaton, Hillary would easily win just because nobody can beat The Clintons in negotiations. They are named Bonnie and Clyde Clinton for a reason

That makes sense.

Let Bonnie and Clyde Clinton screw the party and negotiate themselves out of the presidency.

It's time out for their BS.

When the time comes she should bow out, go back to the senate, and decide what to do next.

I mean, that makes alot of sense........Obama having a person on the ticket with him that has the highest negative rating of anyone who has ran for the precidency in the country's history.

This is exactly the kind of headline people need to see regarding a presidential candidate:

Clinton touts support from 'white Americans'

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/...hite-americans/

This is exactly the kind of headline people need to see regarding a presidential candidate:

Clinton touts support from 'white Americans'

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/...hite-americans/

Sickening.

I'll sit back and watch the MSM go past this.

And nobody considers people of color not voting for her. She is shameless. She would swallow poison if it guranteed her a spot in the WH.

Sickening.

I'll sit back and watch the MSM go past this.

And nobody considers people of color not voting for her. She is shameless. She would swallow poison if it guranteed her a spot in the WH.

I am by no means an idealist and I recognize that politics is a nasty business. This kind of thing is still extremely hard for me to overlook. It's like someone calling you the nastiest name with which they can come up and then saying two seconds later, "let's hold hands and sing Kumbayah."

She's actually loaned her campaign over $11 million. There was the initial $5 million awhile back and the recent three incremental loans. She may end up loaning more. She will be able to recoup so I don't think it's that big of an issue. I guess she shouldn't call Obama elitist since most people can't float loans like that.

Excellent point about the elitist! If she loses she may not be able to recoup. You know, she didn't win, she doesn't get to be the nominee. Now she is saying, had she been operating under the Republican Primary rules, she would already have won. Now she doesn't know that. I'm sure her opponents would have adjusted their campaign strategies to focus more on the winner-take-all primaries. Of course, it is Hillary who has demonstrated she doesn't pay much attention to rules.

She knew the primary delegate selection rules, the Florida and Michigan rules, the rules for superdelegates, when she entered the race. Everybody else in the primary knew the rules too and everybody played under the same rules. Only one candidate is now saying after the fact that all those rules should be changed.

Excellent point about the elitist! If she loses she may not be able to recoup. You know, she didn't win, she doesn't get to be the nominee. Now she is saying, had she been operating under the Republican Primary rules, she would already have won. Now she doesn't know that. I'm sure her opponents would have adjusted their campaign strategies to focus more on the winner-take-all primaries. Of course, it is Hillary who has demonstrated she doesn't pay much attention to rules.

She knew the primary delegate selection rules, the Florida and Michigan rules, the rules for superdelegates, when she entered the race. Everybody else in the primary knew the rules too and everybody played under the same rules. Only one candidate is now saying after the fact that all those rules should be changed.

If that's how she feels then she should consider joining the Republican Party. If she knew what the rules were upfront then complaining and/or trying to change them to accommodate her is a really bad move.

If that's how she feels then she should consider joining the Republican Party. If she knew what the rules were upfront then complaining and/or trying to change them to accommodate her is a really bad move.

The only rules she cares about are the ones that benifit her and the ones she can break. What is amazing is that she signed a letter banning both Mich. and Florida from the convention, and now that she needs their delegates, she fights to get them seated, and gets this arrogance about her that they should be......even though she agreed that they brook the rules!