July 10, 200817 yr Member I don't know if its attributed to him or the people he hired, but I've always noticed that the dialogue on the shows Hogan Sheffer has written for have improved greatly under his tenure. I mentioned Jodie Scholz before as being on prior DAYS writing teams (and she's still there under Dena) where the dialogue was generally loathed, but her dialogue seemed to improve greatly and get much notice under Hogan's tenure. The scripts Beth Milstein has written have been good so far, so I don't think she'd do a bad job as script editor actually. We'll see. Probably in the fall or so, but her breakdowns haven't been too jarring actually. I actually think there's worse breakdown writers on that team. I wouldn't mind seeing her go though, she was Latham's last hire. A lot of it depends on the breakdown writer/scriptwriter team-ups. A strong editor understands which script writers work better under which breakdown writer's outlines. Some breakdown writers are VERY general and VERY vague, because they're focused on the structure and want to give the script writer room to "play". (Which is where someone like a Culliton or a Courtney Simon is wonderful as a script writer). Other breakdown writers write VERY dialogue-specific outlines, and go into great detail, and while some script writers hate that because then they just feel like they're transcribing, other script writers really shine when given specific instructions. That's why I'll never out-and-out hate a script writer based on their scripts (And I totally agree, R Sinclair - that Beall AMC dialogue is CRINGE-WORTHY), because you never know what a different style of outlines will bring out in them. Of course, some are just terrible no matter where they are. But it's all about finding the right match-up.
July 10, 200817 yr Author Administrator Y&R: - Cherie Bennett & Jeff Gottesfeld last listed as Associate Head Writers/Script Editors on July 10 - Beth Milstein fist lised as Script Editor on July 11
July 10, 200817 yr Member Who am I gonna have to sleep with to get Guza canned? I mean I know he's got pictures of Frons with goats and all, but seriously? What's a little public embarrassment if you win the undying loyalty of the General Hospital fans?
July 10, 200817 yr Author Administrator first of all toups, you can take cinquamani and bugler off the "not yet in credits" list... their last episodes have already aired. Thanks! Make me wonder why Tracey Thomson would leave GH for this mess. Or maybe she didn't really have a choice? Maybe she's tired of writing scripts for horrible storylines? Tired of writing gangsters as heroes? Maybe Pratt's gonna give her a promotion and let her be an Associate HW?
July 10, 200817 yr Member Ryan, I thought you heard a rumour about his influence diminishing? I should be hearing more from my source this weekend about what's going on there. She told me a doozy about Steve Burton that quite frankly, if true, will forever change my opinion of him. I'll share with ya anything I get...
July 10, 200817 yr Member I should be hearing more from my source this weekend about what's going on there. She told me a doozy about Steve Burton that quite frankly, if true, will forever change my opinion of him. I'll share with ya anything I get... That's really saying something. I'm not sure ANYTHING could change my opinion of SB.
July 10, 200817 yr Member That's really saying something. I'm not sure ANYTHING could change my opinion of SB. I feel the same way....but this will make it FOREVER! Lol. It does involve "the juice" though. I swear, that damn juice should be a curse word.
July 10, 200817 yr Member That's really saying something. I'm not sure ANYTHING could change my opinion of SB. And where have you been, exactly? This is highly unacceptable! What was that line about Culliton and Simon?
July 10, 200817 yr Member I don't mind rehashing, since this is one of the three agendas I've never been quiet about nor ashamed of pushing (McTavish's ejection and my abhorrence of anything Carey/Lavery/Martin being the other two). Thank you. I deeply appreciate it when people take the TIME to give evidence! This is very useful. I don't mind rehashing, since this is one of the three agendas I've never been quiet about nor ashamed of pushing (McTavish's ejection and my abhorrence of anything Carey/Lavery/Martin being the other two). Thank you. I deeply appreciate it when people take the TIME to give evidence! This is very useful.
July 10, 200817 yr Member And where have you been, exactly? This is highly unacceptable! What was that line about Culliton and Simon? I've been lurking. Not much to add to the usual Y&R-hand-wringing and "What Will Pratt Do?" talk. At this point, we're all just biting our nails and waiting, hanging on every bit of gossip that gets thrown our way. And I think both the Cullitons and CS are good dialogue writers. But that's just my opinion. I know not everyone is a fan, and frankly, I have issues with the Cullitons as head writers, but their dialogue doesn't offend me.
July 10, 200817 yr Member And I think both the Cullitons and CS are good dialogue writers. But that's just my opinion. I know not everyone is a fan, and frankly, I have issues with the Cullitons as head writers, but their dialogue doesn't offend me. Dialogue is very good, it's just that I didn't get the message of that aprticular sentence. If you could elaborate...
July 10, 200817 yr Member I've given up. The glory I want for Y&R will never be achieved... So in the end - I really don't care who they hire or fire... Why set you standards too high considering the state the soaps and daytime in general is in? I know I'm mostly watching these shows out of loyalty at the moment, and that's wearing thin, so...
July 10, 200817 yr Member Why set you standards too high considering the state the soaps and daytime in general is in? I know I'm mostly watching these shows out of loyalty at the moment, and that's wearing thin, so... I wish I knew the answer... I just want the best for all the shows and it pains me to see how these writers are treated! I mean, look at what soaplvr02 said - that is awful and unbelievable! I'll probably stop watching all of them if this new Y&R thing turns out to be a flop. Edited July 10, 200817 yr by Sylph
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