Members Khan Posted June 16, 2008 Members Share Posted June 16, 2008 So Pratt begins work on my 29th b-day, eh? This will be either the best birthday present ever (albeit, belated); or it'll have me wishing I had gotten a pony instead. Thanks, Y&RWorldTurner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members winterguy125 Posted June 16, 2008 Members Share Posted June 16, 2008 So I guess Nelson Branco of TVguide Canada has some ATWT writers news scoop, but is not releasing it yet. Hopefully it will be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaytimeFan Posted June 17, 2008 Members Share Posted June 17, 2008 Although we differ on Sally Sussman Morina (who I love!) I do have a theory about her role at Y&R in the 80s and her return shortly before LML's wave of destruction. I am willing to bet that perhaps she wasn't really a Bell hire but more a Sony/Columbia Tri Star hire...sort of like the Sony representative in the writing team. That's what I think happened in 2005(? can't remember the year), Sony sent in Sally Sussman Morina to consult. The difference between Sally Sussman Morina and LML is that she appeared to give a sh*t about what Y&R was about, just like she gave a sh*t about DAYS. I might be right, I have no evidence proving my theory either way. She might have been a Bill Bell pick and he simply didn't hire her back after 'Generations' because he found other talent or she wasn't interested or had other opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted June 17, 2008 Members Share Posted June 17, 2008 That's why the LML scheme would've never worked out for Y&R - Lynn Latham hated the show and thus destroyed it. It's very simple, actually, Freud and the subconscious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackPeyton Posted June 17, 2008 Members Share Posted June 17, 2008 thats so far over my head i had to google it and got no answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted June 17, 2008 Members Share Posted June 17, 2008 If you hate something and try to deny it, to repress it (into your subconscious), no matter how hard you try, the hate will still be sensible in what you do. Basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted June 17, 2008 Members Share Posted June 17, 2008 I'm sorry, but Sally Sussman Morina sucks ass as a writer. She's horribly inconsistent, choppy, and sometimes one has to suspend a good amount of disbelief to watch her stuff. Generations, as much as its applauded for its use of African American characters, wasn't a strong show overall and it was Sally who was the driving force behind all of that. While I would agree that she is better fit for Y&R than Latham, I'm not particularly fond of her writing and I don't think she could've "saved" Y&R. Her DAYS stint was laughable as well, talk about a cheap attempt to being sci-fi elements to daytime. The only way I'd only want her back at Y&R is as a script or even breakdown writer, not as head writer. As mentioned though, Bill Bell did trust her as a consultant (though I don't know why). James E. Reilly (at B& and Frederick Johnson were also consultants for Bill Bell, and the only one I'd want back is Frederick Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted June 17, 2008 Members Share Posted June 17, 2008 Because she couldn't have saved it. Sally Sussman is not the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sudz4u Posted June 17, 2008 Members Share Posted June 17, 2008 What I heard (from a highly reliable source) was that Bill Bell was finished with Sally Sussman after she "left him" to launch "Generations". Believe it or not, he was actually threatened, terrified her show would eclipse his (was "Generations" on opposite Y&R?) Apparently, Bill was an odd duck-- if he fired you, it didn't mean you couldn't return someday (Trent Jones), but if you left to work on another show, you were dead to him. Which would explain why Sally wasn't hired back during Bill's lifetime, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted June 17, 2008 Members Share Posted June 17, 2008 Why is it that I don't believe this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted June 17, 2008 Members Share Posted June 17, 2008 Trent wrote for Y&R consecutively from 1993 to 2003, so Bill never fired Trent, at least he was no longer HW of the show when Trent left the first time. Bill preferred to train writers, instead of picking up writers who went from show to show. Though, Trent Jones was an exception. There are a few others of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Y&RWorldTurner Posted June 17, 2008 Members Share Posted June 17, 2008 I don't either. NBC barely supported Generations, and by the time the show aired, Y&R had already been the #1 soap on the air and Generations was at the bottom of the pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaytimeFan Posted June 17, 2008 Members Share Posted June 17, 2008 I don't think Bill Bell was intimidated by SSM...but I could see the fact that she left him leading her to be 'dead to him'...Bill Bell was the alpha dog at Y&R, do something to upset him and you were over (just ask Brenda Dickson! She came to work only to discover Jess Walton sitting in the makeup chair, Bill Bell said something akin to "Brenda! Meet the new Jill, you're fired") SSM is one of those writers you either love or hate. I happened to love her stint at DAYS (her first year, the second year was allllll Langan and it was horrible). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members brimike Posted June 17, 2008 Members Share Posted June 17, 2008 Okay, Sylph - I give up. Who replaced Brad in your avatar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sylph Posted June 17, 2008 Members Share Posted June 17, 2008 John Yorke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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