Members PhoenixRising05 Posted April 20, 2007 Members Share Posted April 20, 2007 I don't see the problem. Parents go off on their children all the time, especially if they have alot to deal with and have stress at work and so on. We also don't know if Ireland and him are getting along. Perhaps she has been acting like a brat to him or perhaps she is helping to cause further problems between her mom and dad. We don't know and that is why family business like this SHOULD NOT be leaked. This is for families to deal with. It has no relevance as public knowledge unless you are looking to make someone look bad, which may have been the intention. My parents used to talk to me once in awhile the same way. I have people in my family who talk to their children like this aftr having a bad day as well. Sometimes you just can't help it. I wish people wouldn't do it but it happens and it's understandable if you are under alot of pressure and so on. I will probably do it too when I have kids. It doesn't mean I or anyone else is a bad parent. I think we all wish we could control our anger and our emotions better but it's easier said then done. I hate this is out for the public to read but it doesn't change my view of Alec. He is still ok by me. He's human and it would also be unfair to judge him without knowing more about the family situation but, again, that is private and I don't care to hear more as we shouldn't even be hearing this much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mason Posted April 20, 2007 Members Share Posted April 20, 2007 If I could pick three people to fall off the face of the planet, Alec Baldwin would almost certainly be among them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members darraholic Posted April 20, 2007 Members Share Posted April 20, 2007 Kim & Alex need to grow the hell up and start acting like mature parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Days4Life Posted April 20, 2007 Members Share Posted April 20, 2007 Alec said he called Ireland back and apologized. Wonder why that call wasn't leaked also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Q Steph Posted April 20, 2007 Members Share Posted April 20, 2007 Kim Basinger's lawyer says Alec Baldwin's response to the shocking message he left on Ireland's voice mail proves the actor is "out of touch" with reality. After TMZ posted the voice mail, Baldwin's reps released a statement alleging Basinger and her lawyer leaked the material. Basinger's high-powered celebrity attorney Neal Hersh has just responded, telling TMZ: "There is much I can say and have said in the past regarding Mr. Baldwin's responsibility for the relationship between him and his daughter Ireland." Hersh continues, "I am concerned that Mr. Baldwin's recent statement, wherein he attempts to shift responsibility to Kim and her lawyers for his issues with Ireland, shows just how out of touch he is with the reality and gravity of the situation." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members R!ck Posted April 20, 2007 Members Share Posted April 20, 2007 I agree with everyone who said this was a personal matter and shouldn't have been leaked. Of course Kim probably leaked it to make Alec look bad so she can have another trial and get full custody. She is bankrupt and probably needs more alimony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members R!ck Posted April 20, 2007 Members Share Posted April 20, 2007 Alec Baldwin Explains Himself on the Web Friday April 20 1:50 PM ET As Alec Baldwin's angry words to his daughter were being broadcast around the world, the 49-year-old actor explained himself Friday on his Web site. "Although I have been told by numerous people not to worry too much, as all parents lose their patience with their kids, I am most saddened that this was released to the media because of what it does to a child," he wrote. "I'm sorry, as everyone who knows me is aware, for losing my temper with my child. I have been driven to the edge by parental alienation for many years now. You have to go through this to understand. (Although I hope you never do.) I am sorry for what happened. But I am equally sorry that a court order was violated, which had deliberately been put under seal in this case." A voicemail Baldwin left for his 11-year-old daughter, in which he can be heard calling her "a rude, thoughtless little pig," was published Thursday by celebrity news site TMZ.com. Baldwin and his ex-wife, Kim Basinger, have been engaged in bitter custody disputes over their daughter, Ireland, since the couple divorced in 2002. "In such public cases, your opponents attempt to take a picture of you on your worst day and insist that this is who you are as a person," Baldwin wrote. "Outside the doors of divorce court, I have friends, I have respect from people I work with and I have a normal relationship with my daughter. All of that is threatened whenever one enters a court room." Meanwhile, Baldwin's attorney, Vicki Greene, said she filed a court order Friday "to determine how the tape got leaked and to determine whether actions should be taken again Kim Basinger, or her attorneys, or Harvey Levin (who runs TMZ.com) and anybody else associated with the leaking of the tape and the violation of the court orders to keep the proceedings closed." Greene told TV's "The Insider" that "anyone involved in this case should want to protect Ireland, so whatever happened was either intentional, reckless or negligent." The matter is set for a hearing June 5, Greene said. A call to Basinger's attorney was not immediately returned. Basinger's spokeswoman had no comment Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Q Steph Posted April 20, 2007 Members Share Posted April 20, 2007 I don't feel the least bit sorry for him. He has a history of being an abrasive jerk. Kim was smart enough to get the hot head on tape. I'm sure this isn't the first time he's lost his temper with their daughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mitchapalooza Posted April 20, 2007 Members Share Posted April 20, 2007 Kim Basinger sounds like the **BIGGEST** B*TCH** ever!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mason Posted April 20, 2007 Members Share Posted April 20, 2007 Me neither. Yeah, the tape shouldn't have been made public, but it doesn't change the fact that it's common knowledge that Alec is an abusive (in every sense of the word) jackass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shawn Posted April 21, 2007 Members Share Posted April 21, 2007 How do you come to view this as common knowledge? Do you know Alec personally? Did you fall victim to his alleged abuse? No. You did not. When are people going to learn that until the person who allegedly does something confirms it with their own two lips, or is seen by the very eyes of those quick to judge him or her, that they have no right to play the blame game? In a court of law someone is innocent until proven guilty. Why must the court of public opinion carry a much harsher sentence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mateo22 Posted April 21, 2007 Members Share Posted April 21, 2007 just one more ENTERTAINMENT story that takes away from the REAL news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JER Soaps Fan Posted April 21, 2007 Members Share Posted April 21, 2007 Okay, here's my question: is this not ILLEGAL?!!! I mean, I'm pretty sure I learned, in media law, that you can't just take private conversations and air them on a mass medium. Sure, he's a public figure, but this was a deeply private situation. I'm confused -- and angry -- about the injustice in this. Poor Alec! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mason Posted April 21, 2007 Members Share Posted April 21, 2007 Poor Alec, indeed. It's karma if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KBT Posted April 21, 2007 Members Share Posted April 21, 2007 I am sure you are always at an even keel. I could be wrong, but I am sure you have yelled something to someone as bad as what Alec said. I don't think its a coincidence that Kim Bassinger's career has done NOTHING in forever, but thats just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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