Members R!ck Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 First Hogan says no one is invested in the teens and they will be on the back burner but then says he's introducing the new generation of Hortons and DiMera's Hogan then says "Victor can no longer be the big swinging honcho of that Kiriakas family anymore" Why the heck not? He's the patriarch of the family. Guess that old saying "out with the old in with the new" applies here. I would like to see Phillip start work at Titan and have Victor teaching him the inside/outside business of Titan, but I don't want him running Titan. Victor should be running the show with Phillip as his right hand man. We are losing Jack, Jennifer, Frankie, Patrick, Carrie, Austin and Mimi, and Phillip and Shawn are being recast. Shawn being recast with a pretty boy muscle stud who makes Hope look like she gave birth at 10 I know he has huge stories planned this fall for John & Marlena and Steve & Kayla, but I just wonder if the recasting of Shawn, Phillip and the exit of Jack, Jen, Frankie, Carrie, Austin and the introduction of the next generation will alienate the fans even though Hogan is an excellent writer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ryan Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Hogan had said before that he didn't understand why John Anniston wasn't utitlized as he should have been. He also didn't understand why Phillip was written the way that he was. I believe he plans on having Phillip become a more ruthless version of his father. I believe Hogan plans on making Phillip take steps to becoming the head of the Kiriakas family. That's all. As far as the teens, not all of the Hortons and DiMeras brought in will be teenagers. The characters (the Hortons anyway) will hopefully have legitimate ties to the family and won't be some new people created and added to the family. I have faith that Hogan knows what he's doing and if his work on ATWT is any foreshadowing of what we can expect, DAYS is gonna be the cream of the crop once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaysFanJean Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 I've been concerned about the loss of continuity due to actors leaving, too. We do need Frankie to stay if only Hogan would see that. But what concerns me even more is that I read that Sheffer wanted Stefano full time and Corday said no way, so he then asked for Tony and Corday said nope. Looks like Sheffer is being given the shaft the same as JER was by Corday. I hated to read that. Hogan was so enthusiastic about writing for Days, but if his hands are tied on who to cast, how long before his pleasure becomes angst and dismay to finally throwing up his hands and saying you can take your show and shove it. The show needs young people to build on for the future interest of folks. They need three young men and one young woman to round out the next generation. Belle will have to move up to the Sami group because they are just too mature to be with the younger group. Only Philip, Shawn and Belle will be in that group without Sami, EJ and Lucas. Then Benjy comes but he should be in the younger group and one of the males of the three I mentioned. I think the mature adults on the show are OK now with adding the DiMera family in whatever capacity and the occasional actors needed to flesh out the stories. Oh and a man for Billie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaysGal Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 I'm so glad you brought this up. I'm just a little bit concerned about a few things that Hogan has said in his interviews as well. The comment about Shawn and Belle being the "next Bo and Hope" more than just irritates the hell out of me. HELLO.....Bo and Hope are still on screen and still a very vibrant couple. I don't want to see them delegated to the backburner now that they have a granddaughter. Another thing, is what he said about Victor. John Aniston is still a very good actor and deserves to have a storyline again. I agree with the part about making Philip a stronger character, but that passing the torch comment just has to make you wonder. Also, I'm no fan of Marlena or Deidre Hall, but for him to refer to her as the "matriarch" of the show was very rude to Frances Reid. If I were a fan of Marlena, I would be very upset to hear a writer say that, because that just spells being on the back burner. Not only that, the matriarch of Days should ALWAYS be a HORTON. I'm going to be very cautious in giving any kudos to Hogan Sheffer. As far as I'm concerned he will have to feature the vets and backburn the younger ones before I will like him. This show for the last six years has favored the "tweeners" way too much and drove the older viewers away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ponz Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 I don't think Hogan has ever said the younger set will be on the backburner. He just said that they need to be integrated better into the canvas by interacting with older characters instead of being thrust into romances straight away. I do think Hogan's central focus will be on B&H, S&K, J&M and probably also Sami/Lucas. His spoilers have been dominated by these characters. Phillip is a potentially strong character so I think a recast is a good move (provided they find the right actor, of course). It needs to be someone with the presence to play a strong younger villain. Regarding Victor, perhaps the issue is John Aniston's health and he is not able to tape a regular schedule. As for the leaving actors, I am hopeful Jack/Matt will be back in the near future. The comments from Matt and especially Stephen Nichols lead me to believe there may already be tentative plans to bring him back (possibly with a Jennifer recast). Hogan did say several of those leaving would be coming back. I don't think the departures of Austin, Carrie or Frankie will hurt DAYS much (if at all). Frankie certainly is no fan favourite and Austin/Carrie's return did not get the reaction TPTB had hoped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheyenne Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 No I'm not concerned at all. Aniston is 73 years old. I don't know how good his health is but it could be a reason... With that said, I'm loving the plans he has for Philip. Just what I was gonna say.As for people leaving... quite a few of them decided they wanted to leave themselves (Missy, Farah, Jason, Kyle. Did I forget anyone?). You can't re-cast them all because that would be pretty weird. Then there's the charcters written out. Jennifer should have been re-casted though. Because Matt and Billy should both stay. It's a shame two of DAYS most talented actors had to leave because Missy left. I doubt all three of them would have been let go if Missy was still on the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members R!ck Posted September 21, 2006 Author Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 I hope your right Ryan Guess I should have said 20 somethings instead of teens Aniston has been on recurring by choice. The heart attack thing was a hoax, so I'm assuming he's fine healthwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Seven Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Why do fans get so upset when a writer wants to "pass the torch" from one generation of a family to the next? Hogan was absolutely right. Victor cannot be the ruthless villain he once was in the 80s. It wouldn't be believable. Are we seriously supposed to believe Victor gives a damn about Abby or Max and would want to ruin their lives? No way! The same thing goes for Stefano and Tony. That is why Tony's last mark of terror was taken so badly. Why would Tony want to ruin Shawn, Belle and Philip's lives? He wouldn't. Now, supplying these notorious families with the next generation will allow the legacies to continue. I, for one, am so excited that Hogan plans to write Philip as a more ruthless version of Victor. It makes sense. And I'm glad he making EJ a DiMera and bringing back Benji. Fans just need to realize that sometimes the vets can't play out every single story that can be penned down. That is why they are vets. They were on in their time and showcased phenominal scenes, but now it is time to pass the torch to the next generation so that we can keep the circle going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members PhoenixRising05 Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 I am with Ponz-other then J&J none of the other actors leaving will hurt the show. As for Victor, John Aniston is recurring and there are rumors about his health. He has never been an everyday character so perhaps there is more to it but I do think we wil see Victor. I love him too but Hogan probably means Philip will take after his father and run the show as Victor can not be as prominent as he once was. Hogan did say he wanted to use Victor so I don't this as a problem. He also said he wanted better INTEGRATION of the young generation. This is what B&C did. They tied the young characters to the vets and that made them matter too people. He is not going to overrun the canvas with teens and the youth. He does want to bring on some new generation Dimera's and Horton's but that is necessary. They may not even be twenty-somethings. He may be talking about Mike or Sarah Horton or something. There are so many Brady's that fill that area so the other families need to follow suit. Days needs this and the casting department has been great so I am confident. I beleive wholeheatedly Matt is returning and I also think CC may be at some point but not as quick as Matt. I also think the Mickey situation will be settled. As for Corday turning down Tony and Stefano, I like that idea. If Stefano comes back, it should be short term or in and out like the 80's and 90. When Stefano became a regular citizen in Salem, he lost his spark and then came the cartoon years. Tony I feel still can be saved but I could see why Corday wouldn't want to bring him back as Thaoo burned Days and I am not sure if he wants to do another Tony/Andre switcheroo, which is necessary to save the character of Tony. Again, people need to wait and see. I love what I am hearing so far but we haven't seen anything play out yet. I have said it before and will say it again-give the show 6 months from after Hogan takes over and then judge how the changes have affected the show. That is the only fair way to do it because so far nothing Hogan has planned worries me. Yes. the heart attack was a hoax but it was said that Aniston was hospitalized for something. I beleive it was minor but it is also strange how Victor has not been present on canvas since Chelsea's trial in June. I don't know what but Days was using Victor a bit early this year so I just wonder if he is doing another project or something. I do know Victor should be back in the next few weeks as Philip is supposed to learn his parents knew about Claire and Brandt last airs Oct 12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Evan Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Is it just me? Watching today's Jack/Jen farewell, I really felt it was more about Matt Ashford than Missy Reeves, and there are definitely openings being put in place for a Jack return sometime next year. OK, maybe this is just a Matt Ashford fan clutching at straws, but I hold out some hope Hogan Sheffer will persuade Corday to bring back Jack Devereux, and if this was with a good Jennifer recast, that'd be fine with me too. I agree with Ponz: with the exception of Matt/Missy, I doubt any of the other actors leaving will be that much of a loss to DAYS(sorry if that is actor bashing). Yes, I have my misgivings about the return of Stefano, short term or not, but I'll reserve judgement on Sheffer's SLs until they are fully in motion on DAYS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members R!ck Posted September 21, 2006 Author Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 I'm not upset. I was just expressing concern. I call bull**** on Victor not being able to be be a ruthless businessman anymore? Y&R's Eric Braeden is only 7 years younger than Aniston and still has a major part of the canvas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members KMan101 Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 I agree. A lot of the going away episode centered more on Jack, but it was a nice send-off regardless. I have no doubt that Matt and Jack will be back. Just this feeling I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Seven Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Y&R and DAYS are two different shows. While Y&R excels in the business world, where an old man like Victor (and Victor) would be useful to tell a story, DAYS relies more on romance and outside forces denying the romances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cheyenne Posted September 21, 2006 Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 Well... It doesn't mean his health is fine just because he didn't have a hear attack.Seven years can be quite a difference. 66 and 73 can be a huge difference. We don't know how well Aniston is feeling. He could be feeling just fine or it's the complete opposite. Someone him being on recurring status was his own choice. Not much Sheffer can do about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members R!ck Posted September 21, 2006 Author Members Share Posted September 21, 2006 That's another good thing about Hogan is that he likes to write business storylines (Monte Carlo, Worldwide, Cabot) Not long ago, The business world was a major player on DAYS, but Titan & Basic Black have been neglected in recent years. I like that Kate and EJ bought a news station, Hopefully we get a lot of going on's at the studio like ATWT used to. I'm sure Hogan will bring business, and not just triangles back to DAYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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