Everything posted by Contessa Donatella
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Beyond Salem Chapter 2 Discussion Thread
No, not the prisms. An Alamainian royal jewel made up of 6 different rare jewels that had a secret weapon value where it operated a space satellite if all the jewels were in place. Perfect hokey!
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Santa Barbara Discussion Thread
Yes, there's English.
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Soap Opera Cast Lists and Character Guides- Cancelled and Current
It's discouraging. There are only 4 left & the writing for all of them is challenged & the casting is questionable. 3-1/2 hrs M-F. No progress is being made on streaming classic episodes. Procter & Gamble is sitting on tapes of 5 shows in vaults & has no intention of releasing any of them! That's SFT, ATWT, AW, GL & EON. At least the Daytime Emmys came back to live broadcast.
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DAYS: July 2022 Discussion Thread ⌛
Oops. My bad.
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DAYS: July 2022 Discussion Thread ⌛
Maybe after 7 years of playing Lani she is ready to try something else.
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Edge of Night (EON) (No spoilers please)
I think the first time it was set in Illinois was 1982.
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Coronavirus/Covid-19 Discussion Thread
Yes, let us say thanks for hugs!
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Coronavirus/Covid-19 Discussion Thread
OOooooo @Tonksadora my condelences. *HUGS* Ohhhh! Thanx so much! 2020 & 2021 & now 2022 have been years of death for me. I lost my last uncle, a cousin I was very close to, my next to last aunt, the BFF & chosen sister I wrote about, an ex that I was once with for 18 yrs & another bestie that I had known since 1972. i've just been beside myself. And I believe in hugs!
- Guiding Light Discussion Thread
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Santa Barbara Discussion Thread
I didn't name any reference point for the beginning to end of the 2-1/2 to 3 yrs that the item describes. None was named, nor was she cited in any way.
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DAYS: July 2022 Discussion Thread ⌛
That's why it's so important that we GOT that TR Coates was haunting Lani! Everything hinges on that. Julie was just about to have her convinced not to confess. And, we even got to see the haunting.
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Edge of Night (EON) (No spoilers please)
In the Irna Phillips universe there were small cities clustered near each other. They were Oakdale, Illinois [ATWT], Flat Rock, Centerville, Somerset, [itself] Bedfordtown, Brookville, Ogden, Centerville, Bay City, Illinois, [AW], and Henderson [SFT]. - Donna L. Bridges Bay City didn't have Illinois attached to it as the state it's in until 1982. Once there was a visual of a guy on a motorcycle, paused at a crossroads with signposts pointing in different directions, with different cities showing. These bedroom communities to Chicago actually represented the bedroom communities that can be found around Cincinatti, the headquarters of humongous Procter & Gamble.
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ALL: They Almost Became
I think it's always a mistake to let the actor have too much input into story & character and to give one actor perks & power over what most actors get which is just to be a participant. For just one example, when a show lets an actor have a 3-day work week, all of their scenes have to be "first in" & it wreaks havoc on the shooting schedule for everyone else.
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Coronavirus/Covid-19 Discussion Thread
Yes, that's my favorite part of the book!
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As The World Turns Discussion Thread
Comparing Goutman as EP at the end of AW & then at the end of ATWT it is absolutely like two totally different people! He even stated in a Q&A with the Digest Editor that he didn't want to hear from the fans, that he knew what was right for the show! An amazing level of hubris. No, like most of the older classic shows the earliest parts are missing. First shows were performed live & there was no tape of the day to keep. Then shows made the mistake of using tape over & over. A rule of thumb is that tapes begin to show up aprox. 1979-80. Blast from the Past: A WLS Top Blunder: Mismanagement, Final Years, ATWT This showed up in my FB memories today & it is so good about what was so bad that it bears repeating or as the case may be, retweeting! Kudos to WLS for capturing it all so well! One of WLS Top 25 Blunders 16. The Mismanagement of the Final Years of AS THE WORLD TURNS The first several years of the Chris Goutman era as executive producer of AS THE WORLD TURNS were award-winning and critically acclaimed, full of actors who couldn't praise their leader enough in the press. The final years were the complete opposite. The constant pats on the back were gone. In their place were a lot of confusing casting decisions, rumored turmoil, and the unbelievable mistreatment of the legendary Eileen Fulton. The show that had the most history that was still intact had a leader who could not have cared less. Letting the brilliant Larry Bryggman (John Dixon) walk away in 2004 was a huge blow to the show and a definite sign the tide was turning. Seeing his return for a few weeks at the very end of ATWT's run in September 2010 proved what an asset he was and what a hole he left. Similarly, allowing Martha Byrne (Lily Snyder) to leave, and acting so cavalier about it in the media, was infuriating and turned off many fans. Even when the classy Noelle Beck offered to step aside so Byrne could return to ATWT in the final months for a reunion of Lily and Holden, Goutman refused. Firing a returned Scott Bryce, who actually made the character of Craig human despite awful writing, was another head scratcher. We don't know if it was pride, personal grudges, or complete incompetence but this was not the man who turned this soap around in the early 2000s. What happened? And where was Procter & Gamble? They seemed to have lost interest in both their remaining soaps at the time. ATWT still showed moments of brilliance in its final years with Maura West (Carly), Michael Park (Jack) and Colleen Zenk (Barbara) leading a cast that gave their all, no matter what story was written. But there was no explaining the act of continuing to introduce new (and mostly unlikable) characters through the final months of the show. There was no justifying the rapid-pace style of editing that seemed to confuse and alienate viewers. And there was no reason to back burner daytime legends such as Don Hastings (Bob), Kathryn Hays (Kim), and Elizabeth Hubbard (Lucinda). As for Lisa and Ms. Fulton, what a horrible way to end this soap. All soap opera final episodes are not made alike. For every perfect ending (SEARCH FOR TOMORROW's Jo and Stu come to mind) there is a Paul Rauch stomping on a cigarette or CAPITOL having Sloane standing in front a firing squad. It's not always easy to wrap up a soap in a limited amount of time. But no soap opera had ever had as much time between their cancellation notice and leaving the airwaves as 54-year war horse AS THE WORLD TURNS. The logical ending would focus on Nancy Hughes, but unfortunately the legendary Helen Wagner passed away the month before the show wrapped production. So obviously, the next thought would be the characters of Bob and Lisa, played by Don Hastings and Eileen Fulton, who both joined the cast in 1960 (that's 50 years earlier!). The show got it (mostly) right with Bob and let him have the final words on the air. But Lisa, they couldn't have got it more wrong. Why didn't Lisa have some kind of storyline in the final months? Fans had been questioning her airtime for years. But surely, knowing the soap was going away forever, wasn't Lisa entitled to one last hurrah? The producers and writers instead gave her only two scenes in the final episode, as a supporting character in the Lucinda-John reunion and in quite insulting circumstances as well. The character of Lisa is credited as TV's first "bitch" and characters like Erica Kane or Alexis Colby may not have existed without her! That's huge. That's history. So what kind of historic tribute did ATWT pay to Lisa on the last show? They gave her four lines and a sarcastic talking-down-to from Lucinda and John. At the very least, would a phone call from an old flame like Grant Colman have hurt? Put them all together, and these decisions demonstrate a lack of respect for AS THE WORLD TURNS as a cultural icon, a lack of consideration of its millions of viewers around the world, and a general sense of contempt for the show on behalf of Goutman and P&G. The consistent and systematic dismantling of this beloved soap through poor management decisions remains a shameful blight in television history, and a tragic example of how ignorance and disdain can ruin an American institution. ____________________ This was the Executive Producer who openly wept at the end of ANOTHER WORLD, but who faced Jen Lenhart, ATWT Editor at Soap Opera Digest, in a 2008 Q&A and told her that he had no need to read fan mail, that HE knew what was right for the show -- not the fans.
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ALL: They Almost Became
I'm with you on this one! I never got what the bee was in their bonnet that they had to have JB. Wheeler, like Heche, had won the Emmy for the role. JB never was near an Emmy. And, Wheeler would have welcomed playing both parts again! I'm not sure when they had EW audition. So insulting & so stupid. And, frankly, the show could NOT afford to pay the perks that they paid. Most of the fans at that point wondered if JB knew where the bodies were buried!
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ALL: Soap Stars - Where are they now?
I think she's very talented! Personally I'd have just kept her on. I was never taken with McKeon. I imagine they wanted to mature the role but that can be too much impatience to set them up romantically.
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Another World Discussion Thread
ANOTHER WORLD was 35 years in Bay City, starting on May 4, 1964, going till May 4, 1999, and then on, till June 25, 1999. The BOLD & THE BEAUTIFUL first aired on Mar. 23, 1987, and so, on this year's Mar 23, 2022, B&B achieved 35 yrs on the air & since then, as it is now July 2nd, B&B has gone on & now has surpassed AW's total broadcast tenure. Let's do the time dance again!
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ALL: They Almost Became
I wonder what characters there have been that he personally felt were "the one that got away." That would be very interesting to hear actors talk about, I think! Well, maybe so. Unlike many actors she finds her time on the soap as very dear to her & AW right after high school & her brother's death & her father's death she was an old hat at working. She'd been doing successful dinner theatre for 4 years I think, so AW was easily like work & like a second home to her & she & Anna were very close. Anyway, maybe we'll find out she did wish she'd had a window to come back.
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DAYS: July 2022 Discussion Thread ⌛
Tableau at the cop shop in Salem? Anyone get a pic? Check out Esme's shoes here. They are the height of YA fashion sense. Can you believe that this is what all the kids are wearing today? They look like they are sneakers that you'd wear dressed up like a Simpsons character!
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Another World Discussion Thread
Just happened upon this threesome today. Brought back good memories. Nancy, Jake & Marley during what I think of as the Ben McKinnon days because there was only that bit of time where he was on the show! I always felt they wasted him.
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DAYS: July 2022 Discussion Thread ⌛
That's just crazy though. If you go by a SORASING timeline that was re-jiggered backwards in time you completely leave out the fact that the twins weren't living viable creatures until they came back from being in Colorado at the Evanses. Of course they were born & were babies in Salem but not really personalities. Then, they came back from Colorado as full formed creatures, either 12 or 14 like that. And, it was at that age span when John & Marlena hit the conference table & Belle was conceived & Sami was traumatized & then kidnapped her into black market slavery. Those times need to be figured from a forward time look, not from a backward SORAS result. I just got off the phone about this with someone who was ranting as bad as me that it could not have happened when Sami was 7 years old. Sami wasn't cast then! I call upon the group mind to come up with a better solution than the one being used now! Did anyone get a screen capture of the moving tableau of people being left behind, as Lani & Eli & the twins were leaving & waving back at them & the people in the wall of friends. tableau style, shyly waved at Lani & Eli & twins? I want that picture!
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DAYS: July 2022 Discussion Thread ⌛
What the dickens are they doing in this picture?! I swear someone could have said, "There, just there, act goofy." Thanks! Philece Sampler died July 2, 2021 (67) (heart attack) AW temporary Donna Love & DOOL Renee DuMonde and Renee DiMera. Today is the second anniversary of her "much too young" death that came out of nowhere.
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DAYS: July 2022 Discussion Thread ⌛
- DAYS: July 2022 Discussion Thread ⌛
But, but, but, that's ... VERY CRAZY! - DAYS: July 2022 Discussion Thread ⌛
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