Everything posted by watson71
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Ratings from the 70's
The 70s ratings really fluctuated. Nine months later, in September, 1972, P&G insisted upon CBS airing all of their soaps in a continuous block. This moved Edge of Night from 3:30 to 2:30, causing the show to slide from #2 in the ratings to the bottom of the ratings. The quality of the show didn't suffer during this time, but the large male viewership and teenagers weren't able to make it home from work or school earlier by 2:30 to watch. P&G and CBS should have realized the error and moved the show back to 3:30, but that never happened. The 2:30 timeslot on CBS was problematic for P&G soaps. In 1981, CBS switched Search for Tomorrow's 12:30 timeslot after 30 years to 2:30. Less than a year later, P&G would move Search to NBC.
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Ratings from the 70's
It was probably a lot of scattered preemptions during this time as President Nixon would resign office during the next week on August 8, 1974.
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A World Apart
Phillips was financially making Bell money by co-creating Another World with him. The Another World Homepage details that during this time Phillips and Bill Bell, along with Phillips' secretary Rose Cooperman, and Phillips' brother Arno were owners of Another World until 1967. Phillips and the others licensed Another World to P&G and their ad agency, Young & Rubicam, during that time. This may be the first time a creator owned their own soap, even if it was temporary and in P&G's hands from the beginning. The show’s official and legal agreement (dated 5/4/64) established that P&G Productions and Young & Rubicam would acquire rights to AW from Phillips and the others after 268 consecutive weeks. They were paid $1,000/week royalties for the term of the agreement. A purchase price of $500,000 (over $4,000,000 in 2021 value) dated 4/10/67, to be paid in 11 annual installments between 1967 and 1977. Distribution: Irna Phillips – 39%. William Bell – 31%. Rose Cooperman 5%. Arno Phillips 25%. So Phillips and Bell were making money on a show that they were not even writing anymore . Agnes Nixon who was writing Another World in 1967 and made it a success was not included in the ownership deal.
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Another World Discussion Thread
Harding Lemay fleshed out Felicia's past as Fanny Grady starting in Fall 1988 when Felicia was hypnotized by magician Oliver Twist played by Dick Cavett. This continued into 1989 as Felicia was stalked by a stranger who later turned out to be Derek Dane, who it was later revealed killed Felicia's stepfather, Noah Grady in self defense. Felicia believed that she was the one who had originally killed Noah. Lemay detested murder mysteries and court trials, so I wonder if his story outline contained the "Who Killed Jason Frame?" storyline with Felicia as the suspect on trial. Whether he penned this or Donna Swajeski changed it, the murder mystery and subsequent trial was one of Another World's best umbrella storylines because the entire cast was involved - tying Iris is the Chief of Bennett Publishing, Sharlene's prostitution past, the father of Vicky's baby, and Evan was Janice Frame's son all together. AW was must see TV and on the top of its game in the Spring of 1989.
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Another World Discussion Thread
I wish they could have found a way to keep Kathleen on the show in 1991. Once the show knew that they were going to go with the Cass/Frankie pairing, they could have used Kathleen in other storylines. She was a link to AW's past, and the character was charismatic enough to be tied to other storylines. A whole storyline alone could have been what happened to Kathleen while she was in the witness protection program.
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Another World Discussion Thread
Thanks for the link to Julie Osburn's website. When you click on the "More" tab and select CV her resume appears. She does have Another World under her acting credits, but even more interesting is that she wrote teleplays for both Another World and Guiding Light. I wonder if she used a pseudonym since I don't remember seeing her names in the credits as a writer.
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Created by….
Yes, there is a big character change in Felicia from the way Robert Soderberg and Dorothy Ann Purser wrote her in 1983 (more Alexis Carrington) than the way Gary Tomlin and Richard Culliton wrote her in 1984 (still over the top, but in a comedic way). Felicia was mad that Cass was seeing her step daughter Cecile on the side in 1983. This caused Felicia to act mean. Felicia even had a falling out with her secretary/assistant, Julia Shearer. At the double wedding of Mac and Rachel and Sandy and Blaine, Felicia smacked Julia across the face and Julia pushed her in the Cory swimming pool.
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Y&R: Tony Morina accused of sexual harassment. Sony being sued.
Not sure if she would even want the job, but Wendy Riche could at least get Y&R on the right track, and Y&R could benefit from a smart, capable woman EP leading the show if the allegations about Morina are true.
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Soap Bitches Choose Yours
From Another World, Iris Cory Carrington Delaney Bancroft Wheeler and Cecile DePoulignac aka The Queen of Tanquir
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ALL: Proposed Soaps Over The Years
Once Agnes Nixon made Another World a ratings success, I'm surprised that NBC and P&G did not revisit the All My Children idea in the late 60s. If P&G had owned both AW and AMC and airing on NBC, they could have utilized the spin-off idea by introducing the AMC characters on AW, like they did with Somerset.
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Another World Discussion Thread
Your synopsis of Nancy in 1985 is 100% correct. Nancy was buying drugs at a disco and taking them. Larry Ewing even went undercover with the drug dealers in the Summer 1985 storyline which was clearly a Miami Vice ripoff. They did talk about Pammy returning in 1988. I wonder if Harding Lemay changed this to Iris when he was rehired as headwriter. Jason Frame's two daughters were changed to Sharlene Frame and Josie Watts. I am sure that Lemay did make this switch. Judi Evans Luciano could have been a Nancy recast in 1991 rather than recasting her as Paulina. You are correct, all the Paulina storylines could have been Nancy's stories. I'm sure Nancy would not have liked Rachel marrying Carl. Also, when Joe Carlino was introduced they made it a point to say he dated Nancy in high school, so it definitely could have worked by bringing Nancy back.
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Another World Discussion Thread
The character of Hunter Bradshaw appeared on AW in the Fall of 1984. Donna Love thought he was an appropriate suitor for Marley because his family had money. Donna did not approve of Marley dating Ben McKinnon. Ben and Carter Todd were Hunter's rivals on the high school football team. Hunter also had a drinking problem, driving drunk and crashing his car into Mac and Rachel's car. By 1985, the character was off the show, and Jake McKinnon would appear in February 1985.
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The Talk: Discussion Thread
On Deadline.com I saw that ABC has renewed all its prime time game shows with the exception of the Disney-owned Millionaire and Fremantle's The Match Game. I would not be shocked in the coming weeks if CBS announces that The Talk will be replaced by a daytime version of The Match Game. Fremantle already produces Price is Right and Lets Make a Deal. They already have the set built for Match Game, but I'm not sure they could keep Alec Baldwin as host of a 5-day a week game show.
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Another World Discussion Thread
The character was Lily Tran played by Bok Yun Chon in the Summer and Fall of 1992. She came to Bay City looking for John Hudson who knew her father in Vietnam. The change in writers from Donna Swajeski to Peggy Sloane caused the story to be dropped with Lily returning to Vietnam for an arranged marriage. It was never clear if they intended for Lily to be a love interest for John or his long lost daughter from the war.
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ALL: Characters with “Inappropriate” Sexual Chemistry
Definitely need to include Another World's Mac and Iris in this thread. Douglass Watson and Beverlee McKinsey definitely had incredible chemistry, and years of story on the show was Iris seeking revenge and stirring up trouble for Mac's wife Rachel since she married Iris' beloved "Daddy."
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Another World Discussion Thread
There has been much talk on the board about AW's theme song (You Take Me Away to) Another World. The composer of the song, Ralph Shuckett, passed away this week. The song is mentioned in his Variety obituary. https://variety.com/2021/music/news/ralph-schuckett-dead-keyboard-player-todd-rundgren-utopia-pokemon-1234945718/
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B&B April 2021 Discussion Thread
Someone probably wounded Vinny (shot or stabbed) him and left him for dead before Liam hit him with the car. This will be where the coroner character will come into play when she discovers Vinny died from multiple wounds.
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Another World Discussion Thread
Felicia was such a different character when she first arrived in Bay City in January 1983. In the few episodes that exist around her arrival, it's almost as if the writers were trying to make her into a daytime version of Dynasty's Alexis. They would continue to write her this way right through the Alma Rudder murder mystery, then they made Felicia more likeable. It is definitely fun to see the beginning of Felicia's relationship with frenemy/step-daughter Cecile.
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How'd they get so rich? (Soap Company Edition)
On Another World, it was well established that Mac Cory owned a large international publishing company, but when Steve Frame was introduced in the clip below at the 53 minute mark, it was briefly stated that he worked in construction. What caught Rachel's attention and impressed her was that he was the owner of Bay City Bengals, a minor league football team. It seems that this plot was quickly dropped by subsequent writers, but it would have been interesting to focus on the football team, rather than Frame Construction. Has any soap ever featured a football team in a storyline?
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