NothinButAttitude

Calm down, MissLlanviewPA. Calm down, buddy. I was joking about Max & Luna. I was joking.

Wasn't Harding Lemay behind the return of Sharlene and the rest of the Frames? Or was that a bit before his return? If it was Lemay, then I could see why he didn't make Robinson Willis or Vince because he didn't want to demonize them to the audience if they weren't before. Plus, from reading Lemay's book, it was always mentioned that Steve had many siblings [to mirror Lemay's real life]. Maybe they weren't all mentioned then.

http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/s12/emmerdale/news/a629070/emmerdale-robert-sugden-to-endanger-aaron-livesys-loved-ones.html I knew it! I called it! Ugh! Why?!

I need a drink after this exchange between Phaedra and Apollo. Sh*t got me scared.

Just enjoying all this hot, piping Lipton that Apollo is spilling right now. Time for Phelony's empire to fall flatter than that donkey booty.

Brandi wanting to quit is a negotiation tactic, IMO. This'll persuade her hardcore fans to rally for her to remain via social media and she can use that when she renegotiates her contracts for the next season. That heifer ain't going nowhere. She has no other source of income. Andy will have to boot Brandi for her to leave. That skank is going to ride this show till the wheels fall completely off.

Grant and Sharlene didn't sleep together? Shocking. Surprised that soap writers didn't capitalize on it. And wasn't Kate the Sharlene returning story in 94? If so, I didn't know that Kate was an altar too. I always thought that was just an identity she was using b/c she was suffering from amnesia at that time.

You didn't miss anything. That dollhouse episode was pure sh*t. Again, the only good thing about it was that it involved some vets. Mainly Bob in that case. Other than that, it was hot ass garbage and a pain to watch. I'd rather watch a traditional X-Mas episode with each family caroling around their trees than that mess.

I didn't upload those. I just found them on my YT feed and post them here. You didn't hurt my feelings, Carl. I know your love for ATWT and disdain for Sheffer, so it's nothing new to me and I respect your honesty. I just shared the episode b/c it was one of the few episodes during Sheffer's reign that showcased the veterans. Mainly Nancy.

, Carl! I thought the episode had cute bits. At least the ones that featured Tom/Margo, Bob/Kim, Lisa, and Nancy. I didn't care too much for Craig's segment b/c I always found Craig and Carly to be gross. At least on Craig's end. It was like Craig was obsessed with Carly, which always bothered me. Plus, Hunt Block's dry acting never appeased me. I only enjoyed him on GL as Ben but that was because he shook up Ross and Blake's marriage. But on ATWT, I didn't care for him. I guess because my mom and late grandmother, both huge and long term fans of the show, always felt he was not their Craig. Like many on the board have expressed, he was too skeevy to be Craig. I also skipped over Katie and Simon as I never cared for them [thanks to my utter hatred for 'Fluff' aka Katie]. And Holden and Lily were just meh. The younger characters segments were alright with me b/c this was a time of the show where I actually enjoyed all the younger characters and was invested in them.

So Pratt is going to just flat out deny rumors that he didn't care for character's backstory and characteristic when a group of people came out saying the exact same thing? OK, Chuck. AMC under his vision was painful to watch from start to finish. Especially the Reese/Bianca romance, Stuart murder mystery, and Annie's decent into madness. Yes, Annie breathed new life during his reign & he brought on Jamie Lunar, who was a great casting coup, but the show was hot garbage. His firing was right up there when GL finally snatched the reigns from Kreizman in the final years.

I've only seen bits and pieces of the Sharlene/Sharly DID story, but how does hardcore AW fans feel about the story? Was it good or a hot mess like DID stories came to be on OLTL?

Don't know if someone has post these already:

But didn't Nick die in the same room of Reg Cox, thus making his death be full circle?

This post gave me life! So true to everything. And you know you're wrong for that motorbike shade.

Who was he trying to pitch the soap to? And I wish the bible was accessible too. I'm still pissed that I didn't save the Capitol story bible when I had a chance.

You didn't like Josie?! I actually liked her until the end where they had her sleep with Cameron and becoming pregnant when Amanda and Gary were presumed dead. Oh and I keep forgetting about Reva/Phillip. Because that led to India giving Reva that epic read in the bathroom when she assumed Reva was trying to take Phillip and Kyle. I remember that clip from YT early on.

Thanks. I remember him coming back sometime around Paul/Isabella's engagement and marriage. I didn't know he was there for a few months or that he dated Diane [again].

Who did you want to slap in the face? Lily? I know for fact you wanna slap Courtney and my boo, Rosanna. I agree. I think that Marland's friend, Lemay, squashed the whole ingenue-type female on AW, hence why female characters like Rachel, Cecile, Blaine, Felicia, Vicky, Paulina, Donna, Lorna, Lila, Cindy, etc. excelled while saccharine women like Alice, Sally, Brett, Lisa, Sofia, etc. flopped. If you were not flawed on this show, you flopped. I can see the strong male characters that Long produced on GL [i.e. Billy, Josh, HB, Kyle, etc] but I am drawing blank on the friendships. On episodes from her era that that I've seen, I see friendships but again they were mediocre. Plus, her male/female friendships always had underlying feelings, like one party wanted to be with the other [i.e. Maureen/Fletcher OR Rick/Beth] and it wasn't just platonic [like Cass/Felicia, Ryan/Frankie].

Didn't Paul's friend, Andy, end up with Faren. Didn't he [Andy] return in the early 00s for a few episodes? If so, did he mention if he's still with Faren? How did old school Y&R fans like the Faren story as a whole?

But I think his writing would've been well for AW. Especially for a blue collar family like the Frames. IMO, he would've had a field day with Sharlene, John, and Josie on that farm. I think he would've had fun with Iris too. He would've probably mirrored her after Lucinda but it would've been better than what happened to Iris in the long haul--shooting Carl and being hauled off to prison never to heard from again. I think the only thing he might've struggled with was the friendship/hybrid family aspect of AW. While he had strong friendships at ATWT, they were mediocre [and much of daytime] to the strong friendly bonds AW displayed. He would've needed a strong co-head writer with history on the show to help him cipher through the waters, but once he found footing, I think he would've excelled. But I'm iffy about Pam Long. While I've enjoyed what I've seen of her writing, I don't know if she would've meshed well with AW. I know some posters have said that she did well at SFT but again, I don't know if she'd excel at AW. I think she would've did well with the Hudson [mainly Vicky] and Harrison clans, but flopped with the rest. Early 90s soap was heading back towards character driven stories [thanks to Bell, Nixon, Curlee, Malone, Labine, and Marland] and were straying from action packed stories [which were becoming a thing of tomorrow but would be revitalized thanks to Reilly in '94/95-ish] that Long excelled at.