NothinButAttitude

Oh wow. That's interesting. Bob and Lisa did divorce over this affair, correct? And this led to Lisa leaving Oakdale for Chicago (Our Private World), right?

Meh. I feel like Stacy is EE's answer to Y&R's Sharon. Both are bipolar. Both are trashy (even though I love Sharon). Both are destructive. Both women stay getting the same plots time and time again. How unfortunate.

I'm in the minority as I liked the Santos clan; however, I hold the same sentiment as hardcore GL fans that there should've never been a shootout in the Bauer kitchen. That was sacrilegious.

They need new shots, promos, and a remixed theme like RHONY got.

I don't think it'll be hard to find. Some people have suggested that Vivica, Omarosa, and Mariah should join the show. Those three would bring tons of drama. Plus, Vivica already hates Queen Kenya. Omarosa hates Claudia. Mariah can't stand Phaedra (if she stays).

Good news! She needed to go. She was allowing the situation to maker her more toxic. I'm wondering who is going to join Kim, Kenya, Kandi, and Cynthia at this point. I'm praying that Buick is not staying.

I can't believe that Kim is joining this ratchet show given her background. I thought she was doing well directing TV shows?

She had it during them filming the season but that had no part in her being a full cast member. Seems like production was always going to phase Mariah out regardless.

Yep. And Lizzie currently has one for RHOC. Only "friend" that's ever played a pivotal role on a housewife season and never given a profile was Marlo back in s4 of RHOA, and that says something.

I don't see Mariah being used in the same capacity as a recurring housewife. Don't forget, M2M is a whole different beast. Furthermore, Mariah doesn't even have a profile on Bravo's site. Every recurring wife that plays a pivotal role in story for that season always has a profile. I see Mariah getting a good 4-5 episodes this entire season before they toss her aside.

Has anyone post the classic clip of Don/Marlena on here?

Well Dean dying is not going to sweep Shirley's acts under the rug for me. Hell, I never really cared for Shirley that much anyways. I always felt that after Heather was killed and Ben was revealed as the murderer, she should've left the Square. Never bought her and Phil together that much except for at times when she'd give Phil a dose of his own medicine. The Carters are just too isolated for me to care about them. And when they do reach out and have relationship (now), it feels forced. They just don't mesh well with me.

I think Nola gave it to Lillian one time, but I'd imagine that Nola didn't give it to Lillian so much as everyone in Springfield (especially Vanessa) had pounced on her previously. But again, it was refreshing that Ed caught some heat as he did really drive Maureen to her death (as Nola stated). I always felt Ed got off easy for crap that he did.

Well it doesn't help when the actor believes it too. They've in so many words made Danny Dyer a leader on the show when he doesn't even have tenure.

Katie isn't even an official friend as she doesn't have a profile on Bravo. She was supposed to be an official housewife but b/c her husband, Josh Hamilton (a famous baseball player) had an alleged drug lapse, her footage with him got cut tremendously. Lizzie filmed the whole season as housewife, but she personally chose to step down as an official housewife. She wanted to focus on her businesses and family and being an official housewife, which entails promoting the show heavily, would interfere. She has said that she will be heavily featured throughout the season. She'll be like Porsha was to ATL or Luann was to NYC previous seasons. And speaking of RHOC: I'm finding this season to be boring. Vicki is becoming distant from the group. Shannon is becoming more erratic. I'm over Pleather trying to shove her money down the audience's faces. Meghan annoys me. Trailer Sue is being phony so she'll come off well this season. We're only three episodes in and I am over it. Hopefully, it'll change down the road. RHONY: Tonight gave me Scary Island teas. Instead of deluded Kelly, we have deluded Sonja. Watching Bethenny comment on all the madness felt like all times. All we were missing was Alex and Jill. That alone would've made this experience perfection. Ramona was a hoot tonight. Her in those heels and that bikini had me laughing. Ramona should never squat in heels. She looks awkward. Bethenny v. Kristen early on was pathetic (on Kristen's part). Kristen needs to realize that Bethenny is a roller coaster ride that she is too short on ride on. Bethenny will drag her from here to west Hell. I enjoyed Bethenny trying to get to Sonja but it won't help in the end. Instead of Sonja facing the truth, she'll do what she always does and play victim. Can't wait till next week to see the rest of the sh-t show when Dorinda and Heather lock horns and Sonja further loses her sh-t.

I LOVED Nola giving Ed grief over his tryst with Lillian. I always felt that he did get off a hell of a lot easier than Lillian did.

Thanks, Paul Raven! I didn't know that Stephen retired from soaps too! I wish that Nancy and Stephen would return back to the genre. They are sadly missed and I know that those two could do wonders with Y&R.

Thank God. Only time I wanna hear about Vicki in this thread is when Andy finally hears my plea and casts her cray-cray ass on RHOA.