NothinButAttitude

Dear God they've reduced Masood to a clingy loser. I cringed at the scene where he bought the tickets for him, Tamwar, and Nancy after he gave Tamwar the green light to go with Nancy to Italy while he took a private vacation to Thailand. I'm over Carmel. She's becoming a mopey sap like Kush. I hate how Denise had to but in to rectify her and Mason's issues, which are stupid by the way. Sharon moping about because she's officially no longer part of the Mitchell clan is even more pathetic. Can they please put this woman back in charge of The Vic and call it a day? I'm grossed out with how they have Louise preying after Jay. Bad enough, he was tricked by Linzi. I just don't see this ending well for Jay.

But didn't the show resort back to it's college element in the early 90s with Coop, Steffi, Ally, etc? Or was it just touched on? Reading up on this show, I think it had potential to be a great show.

This site has thorough history of Alex Masters' history on LOVING that I stumbled upon last night. Quite interesting: http://www.stybz.com/monszter/RM/lov87.htm

Yep. There was tons of Zainab bashing along with Tamwar basically declaring her a poor parent. Yesterday practically decimated any remnants left of the foundation that was Masood clan. I hate too how they had Jane and Masood exchange wistful looks while the topic of Zainab came about.

Looks like you were right, @DRW50: http://www.digitalspy.com/soaps/eastenders/news/a791155/goodbye-paul-coker-eastenders-star-jonny-labey-is-leaving-the-show/

That isn't the first time Andy's done so. He always subtly suggested he's a top. The first time he originally did so was on Wendy Williams a few years back when he said he preferred to be on the outside of the spoon.

Yes, the Ro/Mike scenes were painful. I was just glad that they didn't even attempt to go there anymore.

I don't think there has been a cast that hated each other so much by the end. I think it's a clear divide. Charrisse/Katie v. Robyn/Gizelle/Karen. I think Ashley is trapped in the middle and will be forced to pick a side soon enough....

I don't think she'll be the only one storming off. I can see Gamble and Lydia storming off at points of the reunion too. This reunion is gonna be a mess.

Well, we know that she gossiped about at least two HWs -- clearly, she boasted that Gina's man, Dean, couldn't stop hitting on her. I, too, think that it was something malicious about Bruce and Chyka. That's so funny that you thought Bruce was gay! I think he is 100% straight Aussie metrosexual. Or let me rephrase that -- he is 100% Chyka-sexual, lol. I really believe in their love story, and think he is one of the best hubbies in all the RH franchises. Lydia's hubby though -- yeah, it crossed my mind. Definitely. ETA: Janet implied that Lydia said she had lots of affairs, too. Damn, Lydia is such a Lydiot. Well then it's a misread on my part. I do think that he genuine loves Chyka but something about him just makes me go.... Again, I am taking your word. Again, Lydia can't talk b/c she's bearding and it's obvious. Plus, I do believe that she gets around. I think she's projecting what she does on Janet. I know this reunion is gonna be a mess. The dynamics of this group are ever changing.

Honestly, IDK why Mona brought on many of the characters she brought on. We don't need Tammy back as she didn't work the first time she was on. She was dud then and is now. We don't need D. Smith b/c it's obvious Mona did this bull for shock factor and attention. Mona needs to steer from social issues to focus on ratchet. She does a disservice to the transgender community. With D. Smith comes Betty Idol, who isn't needed either. Tommie and Tierra were good enough finds IMO. Plus, they should've brought Kaleena back.

ATWT was ranking #2 regularly in the ratings behind Y&R in 92. Even during the 93-94 year ATWT ranked in the top 5 of soaps. P&G stop caring after Marland passed away. The writers still had the outlines for the next year but the stories were so boring and stale….they didn't have Marland vibe to them. But I think it was even before that. Weren't NBC allegedly going to cancel AW in the early 90s? I doubt P&G cared as they didn't care when it came to SEARCH and EON.

@Cat, what do you think Lydia said? I've been hearing Lydia might've said something about Bruce, Chyka's husband, and that Chyka was his beard. If so, I find that totally hilarious as I've been thought (and said) that both women's husbands are fruiter than picnic baskets.

P&G stop caring for their shows since the 90s, so they never cared to change regimes. They wanted to kill their shows off. With CM, I never got the impression that Rosanna was being written as Dixie. However, I did not like them making Rosanna poor and having her work in some damn countryside co-op farm outside of Peapack or whatever. Alexander Cabot was f-cking loaded. Ain't no way Rosanna's entire fortune was squandered like that. Most people would at least have some money tossed aside. I just thought it was so stupid how they came to write Rosanna. Much like Meg and Emily, Rosanna only became obsessed about Paul and producing babies. I missed the days when she was a scheming minx that was out to make Carly or anyone miserable.

I don't remember hearing that but if it was said, that's gross. I wouldn't be surprised either. CG & JP threw out any ounce of history once placed by former writers.

I'm OK with Tamwar going as no one has really invested in him. Not long enough. He'd have an arc but it was nothing that catapulted him to where I felt he should've been--the forefront. I do think that it is time for Zainab to return. Syed too. I wouldn't mind Shabnam returning too with a new actress or the original if they have to. I was thinking about the Kevin incident too but as you said, Phil killing these women's exes and then boinking them is all part of the game. I just don't know what sane writer would think this was cute either time. Especially, when both men were these ladies true loves. I would find it more interesting if Sharon and Denise banned together and killed Phil's ass. Not lusting after him.

Do you think they are building up for Charity/Ross love story with Debbie returning as an interloper? That's what I've been getting since they tossed them into the same orbit upon Charity's return. I'm sure Cain will become more involved, which Holly will use to her advantage if all of this occurs. I don't care for Liv either but I figured she'd stay as they needed to build up their teen bunch. I'm sure she'll set her sights on Jacob soon enough, thus sending Gabi back into the rapist Lachlan orbit. I want Pierce to be for Harriet. I've grown to adore her and would love to see her in love. I think he'd be a nice beau for her. Hell, I wouldn't mind if he and Leyla got involved. I'm with you that I don't want Rhona to get involved with him. It's too expected. With Zak/Joanie/Lisa/Belle--I pity NONE of them. I'm over Lisa sobbing over Zak. I wish she'd just get out and date again or hurry up and put her and Zak back together. Hurry up and slap Rishi and Joanie together. And Belle.... I've never cared for Belle. She reminds me of Starr (of OLTL) too much. I just want her to go away.

I don't think they ever dug deep in Brad's previous history. I think Carly and him had one spat and it was dropped. The next second, he was sniffing after Katie. I feel like after his part in Parker's paternity secret, he should've gotten heat from Margo (who loved Hal) when he was pursuing Katie. I don't even think she brought it up. I think if she did have any issue with Brad, which I can't remember, it had nothing to do with Parker's paternity. It was more of Jack playing interloper. I hate how they brought Dani back on and had her screwing Craig, which was gross. Yeah, I didn't wasn't around when Craig/Betsy/Steve took place but I heard the stories and read up on the history to know that Craig would've NEVER done that. He thought of her as his daughter for the longest and still had a connection to her afterwards. So icky for them not to acknowledge that. Also, did she even interact with Kim upon her return? I think they totally ignored that whole aspect and just referred to her as 'Emily's cousin,' which was wrong as she was Emily's niece. Plus, they totally never addressed her history on the show in the 90s.

@DRW50 I don't think CM's Rosanna and AP's Brad did. I don't think they even interacted TBH. I think it would've been nice if this was addressed with Parker. What sucked about ATWT in the last 5 years on air is that people were so isolated and sectioned off in certain groups, people that had previous history rarely interacted.

I hope it isn't an exit for Jay either but I don't see him coming from this story unscathed. Not after she sent him those texts of her in her skivvies earlier. When it comes to the Mitchell clan, I don't think we'll ever be rid of them unless Steve McFadden leaves and the young Mitchells leave the show to pursue other things. I think we are stuck with them for the long haul. I am surprised they remember Afia too. Honestly, I would've preferred Tamwar reunite with her as they were a more believable pairing. I've never believed Nancy and Tamwar. I just haven't. With Denise.... *sighs heavily* I am so pissed this is about to occur. So pissed.

@DRW50 Please! No! Not my Denise! I swear TPTB hate her! They have to, to keep doing stuff like this to her. That aside, I am stunned that Linzi is actually underage, but why am I not surprised? I feel like this is just a set up so that it'll be acceptable down the road for Jay to pursue Louise, who they are grooming him for obviously. I just hope that those scantily clad texts don't come back to bite Jay and they peg him as some sexual offender. But this is EE, so.... I thought that Tamwar sulking over Nancy leaving for Italy was so stupid. It's like a 2hr plane ride if he chose not to go with her. I found it so stupid he'd even be mad given how depressed she's been as of late. Linda trying to keep her in Walford was sickening to me too. She should be glad that her daughter wants to go off and spread her wings. Why have her stick around when Mick (after supposedly forgiving her) is still acting strange? Sharon feeling upset over no longer being in the Mitchell fold was stupid too. She should be grateful and could still maintain a relationship with the boys w/o being in the fold/married to Phil. DTC does not get the essence of Sharon at all.