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The house we never see... Agree but 'his all' at this point is lacking. That's not shade at Eric, just facts. There is an opportunity for a story of Victor realizing that he's slowing down and taking stock. Of course Josh Griffith could not write that. It could be more compelling and believable than Victor being the Alpha Male that everyone is in fear of.

Yes and the show should recognize that instead of pretending that Victor is still some macho power player as in years gone by. This nonsense of them being cut off is insane. If Adam could fly to the South of France and scale a mountain to reach them, then why doesn't some one go down the same damn mountain? Maybe if they were on an island it would make a little more sense. Victor and Jack etc have been completely out of touch with their business/family for weeks and nobody is concerned? Possibly the worst story the show has done.

OK but it's not like she has been trying for months with no results. Unless it's revealed that she knew going into the marriage she couldn't have kids. Hayley's character is a bit of a blank. She hasn't been presented as a social climber to any great extent and she doesn't have anyone close to her that she could talk to and provide some insights to her motives. I still think it would have been interesting if someone inside the Dupree circle had been more sympathetic to her.

Not bringing back her son Scott didn't help-it was one less way to involve Lisa in story. Scott suffered the same fate as Andy, Frannie etc. TPTB stubbornly refused to flesh out the core families. I guess they thought brand new characters with no ties to the past would make the show more contemporary and appealing.

At this point I am not understanding the Hayley pregnancy story-why is she doing this? It's not like Bill was growing away from her-they are newlyweds and he has constantly supported her. And he was not pressuring her for a child. That sort of story usually occurs when a vixen has trapped a guy with a pregnancy-either a lie or she loses the baby. And I would have liked to see Bill with a cane for a little longer -it was a good character prop and reminder of his stroke.

I think introducing proper 'themed' flashback days or weeks could be an effective way to cut down in producing new episodes. A bit like the tribute eps Y&R do for milestone anniversaries. Properly promoted I think they could hold viewer interest. Maybe 4 Wednesdays in a particular month. eg This month every Wed we're looking back at the lives and loves of Nick Newman or Tomorrow on BTG its Danni day looking back at her triumphs and tragedies etc Either/or characters/actors reminiscing about certain storylines. Although it would be more expensive to produce than a straight repeat, surely less expense than a new episode.

Soap Central is often wrong. Eileen returned to ATWT Jan 67. She mentions it in her book and includes the script from her first episode back.

EILEEN FULTON AS THE WORLD TURNS Lisa Miller Hughes Eldredge Shea Colman McCall Grimaldi (Chedwyn) May 18, 1960 - April 1964; August 1964 - May 1965 Sept - Nov 65 (Eileen agreed to return to ATWT for 10 weeks to wrap up Lisa's story) January 16, 1967-April 1983, August 3, 1984- September 17, 2010 OUR PRIVATE WORLD Lisa Miller Hughes Eldredge May - Sept 1965

All very interesting except for the fact that Eileen did not return to ATWT until January 1967 so ant ratings info from 65-66 have no relevance to Lisa, who wasn't onscreen.

So there's Jack bawling out Billy for making Sally head of Abbott Communications. Sally has zero qualifications to be CEO of anything, especially the company that Billy claims is going to shake up the industry(insert cringe emoji) How many jobs has Sally had since she came to GC? Sorry Jack, but you were an idiot to have any faith in Billy as he has blown every business opportunity he ever had. But that might require character growth and insight and Josh isn't interested as he'd rather replay the same stories over and over. Billy is insufferable and not in a love to hate or endearing way. Dislike JT's take on the character and the writing. Really Billy could be written off at this point. Are Micheal and Lauren lost in the maze or scrambling down the hillside? What was the piont of including them if they are not seen?

And they both played the same role -Rose on SFT!

I still am not convinced about the Martin storyline. The Duprees are THE family in town, as witnessed by them summoning the Chief of Police who was prepared to aid in the cover up. Surely that power and influence could be used to immediately swing into action and go public with what happened, exposing the racism and hate that can touch even an upper echelon family. They were threatened with violence-there was a gun-and an elderly man was threatened. In self defence Martin lashed out. They would have highlighted an ongoing issue and being PR savvy have used it to their advantage. As for Chelsea, that story has been half baked since Day 1. The 3 way was barely touched on and then an instant romance with an unsuitable partner followed up with a possible stalker. All too much. I could see Bill being slightly cynical about his daughters fluid sexuality.

Dagne Crane 89 Peter Galman 79 Jill Andre 90

Sam Groom 87 Robin Strasser 80

Franko asked about pre 1970 soap actors Lorraine Broderick is a writer (and did not write for soaps pre 1970) Courtney Simon was not acting in soaps pre 1970

Gillian Spencer 85 Millee Taggart 84 Michael Storm 85 Donna Mills 84 Millette Alexander 91

A few for starters Rachel Ames 95 Mart Hulswit 85 Peter Simon 82 Pat Bruder 88 Marie Masters 84 Maeve McGuire 87 Rosemary Prinz 94 Beverly Penberthy 93 Victoria Wyndham 80 Don Hastings 91 Jada Rowland 82 Carolee Campbell 88 Maree Cheatham 85 Susan Seaforth Hayes 82 Fran Myers 75

Also, the first and only daytime actress/character to be given a nightime spinoff , back in the days when soaps were pretty much ignored. Although Our Private World was a failure, nonetheless a significant footnote in soap history. And it's original title - 'The Woman, Lisa'.

They might have benefitted from having another Dupree male child waiting in the wings-either a son or grandson for Vern/Anita who could be mentioned and then come home for Xmas maybe and provide some new story material for the 2nd year of the show Bill Bell did that with Lorie Brooks on Y&R and later the Forrester sisters on B&B and Days kept Bill Horton offscreen for several months after the debut. They are doing that with Jacob's family and Vanessa's kids and we don't know anything about Smitty's family...

There is a cast photo that has been posted before that seems to be from around 1964 with Henry Miller included.

Lisa's dad was Henry Miller played by Louis Van Rooten. I think he was killed off in the early-mid 60's. My thoughts are that Henry/Alma were seen occasionally and then a widowed Alma moved to Oakdale at some point.

I wonder why Kim demanded or was granted special billing? Hardly a way to endear yourself to castmates. Maybe most of them just laughed it off and thought... That Kim, not only does she get frontburner stories and a big salary, she also wants the special tag as well.

I really don't know why JFP was so intent on winning Emmys. The Daytime Emmys have always been so compromised that they really don't mean much . Certainly not to the wider entertainment field. And winning an Emmy never helped a show in the ratings. Guess it means something to some of those in that little world of daytime.

It's been said that there is no one who wants to take on Y&R. Maybe now that Ron is available and is known to Sony, they might offer him the gig. Y&R is so bad right now I'd be prepared to see what Ron would do.

To think this was only a few years into the shows history and there were already so many cast and story changes. They really needed to choose a direction and try see it through rather than continual reinvention. Of course that happened with other older shows that ignored history and kept revamping but Loving was at that stage within a few years.