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Or she's gaslighting. Honestly, I felt like it was a good reunion trailer with Kyle getting called out.

BH reunion trailer. Dorit doesn't take the hoodie thing off her head for the entire reunion!

A lot of these outfits I feel like I've seen before. I liked Dorit's outfit the best, until I realised that Melissa Gorga wore a similar look in blue at the last NJ reunion. I'm not sure why Kathy showed up when she wasn't in this current season at all (rumors say she came to excoriate Sutton on Kyle's behalf, which makes zero sense to me??), but yay I guess. She'll be entertaining. Garcelle is channeling LVP's Tom Ford liquid-rosé-gold look at the S8 reunion. We already know about Flopmarie channelling Charrisse. Crystal's dress is very Italian Designer and very her -- underrated and understated. Maybe too daywear for BH? Overall I think she looks the best here -- hair lustrous, skin glowy. I'm sure I've seen Sutton's halter-top dress on some reunion somewhere. The blue velvet is nice. Erika's look has been in her closet a long time and is a repeat. Same, I feel, with this green outfit on Kyle.

😅 Thank you for verbalizing the major problem I have with this season. Not just the disconnect between women who once seemed to have organic chemistry with each other. But the complete unwillingness of production to confront Robyn about her personal life and the Patreon scam. They are overtly protecting her because she is Production's puppet.

Falyn is on Couple's Therapy this season with her current beau, apparently. Welp... i can't say this is surprising, because its not. When someone keeps their job description vague, you know something is going on. What I don't understand is why be on a show when you have stuff to hide? I think Porsha will try and get out of next season.

They could have shown Kyle with her new BFF Morgan and the implications for her friendship with Dorit, which seems to be a little on the outs right now. Then we have Erika who, without Rinna, has allied herself closer to Kyle recently (despite her not being a big fan of Kathy's). It also raises a wider question of why does Kyle cycle through a squad of BFFs, and why are these BFFs rarely friends with each other? However, the show has tiptoed away from all that, saving it as an underlying current on the After Show or an impromptu Kyle interview on a red carpet somewhere. The mini cast trips are usually scheduled in episode 2 or 3 of the season, in the hopes that they lay down the foundations for a season's dramas or petty rivalries. Sometimes they can generate more drama than the cast trip itself, but I agree that in this case Vegas did little but establish Sutton as a somewhat disingenuous prude.

There have been two moments (once when we met Morgan Wade for the first time, another was the tense-off between Mo & Kyle's in the car) where I felt the chemistry, or lack thereof, was real. I went into this season thinking this was a fake SL for the purposes of the show. But I've been second-guessing myself since that first (contrived) scene between Mo's blinding, egregious chompers and his Lovebean. Part of it may be that Kyle seems so turned off by Mauricio, and I'm not sure i blame her because he is giving me the ick big-time. But a lot of it is the 'mystery' of piecing together the few nuggets being dropped here and there. What is behind this rift? Did Mo cheat? Did Kyle? Was it Lorene's passing which drove a wedge? Is it Mo's incessant partying and possible drug use (the latter is my theory) ? But as you say, nothing is concretely expressed, everything is implied, including Kyle making heart-eyes at Morgan as she sings...Some of this smacks of legal ass-covering, in case Kyle is put on the spot and says "Well, I never said Morgan and I are anything more than friends!" I've been watching the infamous S10 of RHOBH, and it is a study in contrasts, not least how far The Coven went out of their way to build a picture of hearsay/'evidence' against Denise in order to take her down (Rinna's transition from friend to ghoul who sold her soul to the show is especially chilling). This season is so different because there is simply no gossip or anecdotal evidence to grasp onto. A thought crossed my mind: suppose the much-trailed scene of Kyle & Mo talking to their kids... ends up being the two of them reaffirming their love and commitment to one another? And in the WWHL show which follows (featuring Kyle and Kiki Barth FYI), Kyle and Andy are all "Surprise, b!tches! We're back together." I think there would be an outcry from the audience that we had been duped. Full disclosure: the person who said that was probably me. I've been relieved to watch this season free of Rinna. The last few seasons have become so toxic and hateful because of her, I felt she hit a new low with the attacks on Garcelle that she appeared to orchestrate.... I was glad that she finally left. With the way this season went, I wondered if we were building towards something (BH can be a slow burn)... and then we had a lacklustre trip to Catalonia...and now it's the finale and I'm thinking "That's it? Oh, OK." I liked the lightness and friendliness, it was a blessing in disguise for Erika, that's for sure. I don't want Rinna back. Nevertheless, it's time to rethink some casting choices next season -- not a big reboot, but let's get the mix right. The last few newbies or FOHs (Diana, Annemarie) have been flops. Also BH is full of unfinished drama -- LVP, Brandi, Kathy, Kim, Rinna (gulp) could all come back. As could my lovely Eileen Davidson, lol. Kyle, unfortunately for some of us, remains the centre of this spider's web holding it together. That hurt to write, but we can't ignore that the show is intrinsically tied to her in almost every way.

Yes, Kyle's marriage has been the A plotline this season, even if the story itself hasn't moved much beyond the first episode of the season (although next week's finale might change all that). Against my will, I've found it the most watchable thread of the season, maybe because weve been watching Kyle so long and rwmember all the times she vaunted her perfect marriage. Even though I dislike her and think she's narcissistic, it's been interesting to watch her try and express wanting change in her life. I called it the Esophagus season because I was trying to be snarky, lol.

His argument was that he couldn't ask Russians at home to risk their lives and protest while he lived in safety abroad. But yes, returning to Russia made his fate almost inevitable, although I always hoped that he would make it through his prison sentence and return to his family. A dark day for democracy -- I had a lot of respect for this brave individual who seemed to know it might end this way but carried on, hopeful, that he might precipitate change against the odds. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/feb/16/alexei-navalny-exile-russia-putin-prison

RHOBH Second-to-last episode, and that was a trudge to get through. It's hard to pin down what characterised this season. We've had the Russell season, the Brandi turned on LVP season, the Bring Down Denise season. This.... has been the Esophagus season? The last few seasons have followed a similar pattern, with the women sometimes reserving their bitchiness and venom for the After Show. That's not good. If there's a beef or resentment, it should be on the show itself. Sutton dating -- don't care. I found it way more interesting her talking about her husband, who is now worldwide head of one of the world's biggest asset managers (PIMCO) and moving to London. Would like to see Christian on the show one time but LOL that would never happen. It's so weird to me that Sutton seems to care for Kyle, and Kyle somewhat for Sutton, but on the After Show and elsewhere, Kyle is being so mean and bitchy about her. What happened? Erika nurses grudges and remembers every conversation from years ago right down to the correct turn of phrase. Tom taught her well. Erika is keeping a lot in the vault which she may one day use against some of these women. I'm not sure what apology she's looking for. Your husband embezzled funds for your music career, Erika. That's still a fact. Annemarie made sure to strap on her scrubs, stethoscope and hairnet for a Facetime with the husband so that we know she's a medical practitioner. In the preview for next week, did anyone notice Kyle motioning at Mo to wipe something from his nose...?

I agree that Sheree, Sanya and Marlo all needed to go, although I think Sheree will be back in some form S16. I also don't need to see Kim Z make a one-scene-a-season return with her red solo cup. Production team used to produce Don't Be Tardy and that's why she gets asked back when she needs some cash. Drew removed RHOA from her social media handle, leading some to believe that she has moved on from RHOA. I would love to see Claudia back, but only if she was living in ATL. The fact that she wasn't really living there the season she was on was apparent. The sad thing is she maintained friendships with some members of the cast, making her a natural fit. Shamari didn't make so much of an impression on me her season. Eva more so but I found her an annoying presence her last season. Last year, though, I would have loved for her to return given the state of the show, but fellow posters here said she was n acting jobs and loving it, and that suited her better than reality TV. The jury is still out on Phaedra. She won't be missed from M2M, that's for sure, but she did have to put in some work on The Traitors and I imagine that would be what Bravo is looking for if she were to come back to RHOA: Devious Phaedra. Sharp Phaedra. Nene -- a girl can dream. 😪 Casting will have to work really hard to find newbies that fit with the group, have meaningful ties, and didn't just appear out of nowhere from under a rock.

I'd be in favor of a former HW,or two joining Porsha and Kenya. I'm not sure Porsha can carry RHOA on her own, and Kenya's been phoning it in the last few seasons. And this production team's track record with new hires is very poor. As @Taoboi said, production is a big part of the problem. Nothing funny, nothing organic, a lot of scripted contrivances (Drew and Ralph) and a lot of thirsty or flop hires. Remember Yovanna? Falyn chasing LaToya around her house? Surely Atlanta has more interesting potential HWs than them? But lazy production has largely gone with low-hanging fruit.

Alright, RHOA! Now we're talking! You read my mind. I need the meme machine that is Nene back -- but in a less grumpy mood. And yes, I personally believe that given the success of The Traitors, Phadrea will return to RHOA. And M2M won't even miss her. In fact, Quad may return to that franchise (although a part of me wanted to see Quad on RHOA, don't yell at me, lol).

Watching the news dawn slowly over RH twitter was even more entertaining than the news itself! That, plus Larsa is trying to front like it was her call. Real Housewives fans are literally the Hercule Poirots/Miss Marples/Horatio Caines of Twitter piecing all the 'facts' together.

"Everything is about Lisa, Lisa, Lisa. To be honest, I'm quite sick and tired of it. Lisa is ****ing selfish. For her to make that comment about people that live by the river. I lived that life. I didn't just lay on my back and get ****ed by a plastic surgeon and then boom, have millions." "I've been on my own since I was 15. Get kicked out on the street with a backpack in the rain. You all have this beautiful life and I work hard to get here, too. I just want people to listen to me. No one ever cared to even ask me one question. 'Kiki, what is going on with your life?' Lisa, I have two kids. No man helping me. But you don't know my son's name. What is my son's name? The life that you have, even though you are going through a divorce, I'm sorry that you are going through this, but im going through hell, too. I just don't like dumping my problems on people, on any of you guys. Just because I don't like talking about issues, I have issues, too." Agree with @Cheap21. Time for Kiki to get a mojito. She's come into her own this season. Her commebts were moving and on-point. This was a great episode and much-needed wake-up call for Lisa. Too bad she is too vapid to have picked up on it. Looking forward to reunion. All the women look like the queens that they are, but Guerdy and Kiki look especially spectacular. Love this show. Hope it gets renewed for next season and the love it deserves. I've been enjoying every episode so much. These women show their lives unapologetically.

I don't see how Nene and Porsha coming back would block Kandi? Now, Phaedra coming back on the back of her turn on The Traitors... that's a whole other story.

WOW! Never thought I'd see this headline. Now I wonder if Quad is going to RHOA?

Oh, best believe Vyle's undercover moves have not gone unnoticed by me. Kyle brought her 'workout friend' on the show and set her at Sutton and Crystal with a one-two anorexia whammy. She barged her way into Sutton's fridge to try and show its contents (or purported lack thereof) to camera. What she did not anticipate was Sutton's newfound ability to deal with the accusations and gaslighting coming at her. She's been cool as a cucumber this season. And Flopmarie has spectacularly combusted. I'm sure at reunion, Kyle will say that Sutton brought up Kyle's marriage issues (although nobody has been doing a better job of that than Kyle), and tried to drive a wedge between Kyle and Kathy. Why else would they bring Kathy back for reunion? Given how hard we have seen Sutton try and make it up to Kyle, and the way they supported each other in Barcelona, Kyle's words now seem especially b!tchy. Why the sudden hate-on for Sutton? Maybe it really is jealousy.

Just when I get invested in Kyle as a flawed human being.... she starts feeling herself a little too much and leans into mean & b!tchy again. The narcissisism of Kyle who assumes that, since Sutton didn't talk to her about her ballet days with Merce Cunningham, the relationship was exaggerated. She minimises Merce's importance in Sutton's life like she did LVP"s brother's death. If I recall, she implied LVP was using her grief as a cover during Puppygate. It's all pretty hurtful, but Kyle and Erika laugh it off. Can you imagine the hurt if Sutton minimised the role Lorene played in Kyle's life? We'd never hear the end of it. (Rumor has it that Kyle brought Kathy along to reunion to decimate Sutton, and that Sutton had a fainting attack as a result). Speaking of girlfriend, Morgan Wade last week apparently deleted all photos of Kyle from her Instagram. A few hours later, Kyle did the same with her photos of Morgan. There may be a couple reasons for this. (A) Kyle and Morgan broke up. ( B ) The Umanskys are divvying up shared assets and lawyers have advised Kyle to scrub her social media so that the issue of who started dating outside the marriage when doesn't become part of the divorce. ( C ) We got played.

I agree. BH is an easy watch, and I feel like some of these women have actually forged something akin to friendship here. It’s almost like they can relax with each other and speak a little more freely?? Even Kyle. Imagine that! Rinna isn't there to parse over every word and gaslight them. There is also less fronting, wig-work and episodes based around glam. Everyone makes a good effort fashion-wise and keeps it looking glamorous, but it's not the be-all and end-all of the show anymore.

RHOM What a great episode. Mexico City is such a vibe, and I can see why the visit to Guadalupe underpinned the season trailer. Heart-breaking to see Guerdy pray in tears for a miracle, and for Julia to swallow her own pain at being in a church for the first time since her baby died. Her loss of faith alongside the faith of Guerdy, Alexia, Marysol and others was an unexpectedly moving counterpoint. Kiki getting grumpier and grumpier with Lisa during the gondola ride was hilarious, and she's so right. Lisa has no concept of any one else's suffering but her own. Lisa -- my god. Is anyone shocked? She's always been deeply self-absorbed and Karen-y. With this divorce, she assumed that, because she'd been cheated on, she would automatically get half, like Larsa with Scotty Pippen's retirement fund. She cannot believe it hasn't turned out that way, and she's singularly obsessed with maintaining her lifestyle. She was pissed about Lenny's 'small condition' because everybody knows that in a choice between her liberty and more money, Lisa is going to choose More Money. Sorry Jody! If I were Jody, I would take the opportunity to GTFO of the relationship. RHOBH The episode was OK but just kinda there. Drunk Erika was the best thing about it. I did like the camaraderie among the women, though, including Sutton and Kyle being there for each other. Losing Rinna has lifted a dark toxic cloud from this show, that's for sure. Andy said this would be the episode which would make us change our minds about Flopmarie. Nope. She held Crystal's hand for a minute and told her not to have a heart attack. OK. Are we supposed to give her a medal now? I wish Flopmarie (and Dorit) would stop perpetrating the false narrative that Crystal looks down on nurses/is jealous bc she didn't get to go to med school. Crystal was actually pointing out that Annemarie is a liar and incredibly unprofessional talking about another person's medical condition and misinforming the public about it. The fact that Andy was co-signing the false Flopmarie narrative on WWHL is outrageous.

Hey! I said RHONY S4 was highly watchable! Which is more than I can say for current Potomac. They should just start calling RHOP "Gizelle and the Women She Hates."

So free labor? If I was Wendy, I'd say F that. This quote from Vulture makes that point that why would Nneka want to invite Wendy into her new home if she was sooo convinced that Wendy and her mom are engaged in shrine work? Isn't she worried about Wendy putting a curse on the new place? As you say, completely creatively bankrupt. I don't know if reunion has filmed yet, but these HWs (with the exception of Karen) need to be put on notice. Because it is all starting to look like S4 RHONY. At least S4 RHONY was highly watchable! And we know how S4 RHONY ended -- half the cast was fired. Nneka is the Cindy Barshop of this current enterprise. Gizelle is the Jill. Robyn = Kelly. Poor Wendy may be Alex McCord, I fear, but without the audience love. Ashley is giving 'bare minimum' and should also be on the chopping block. Who is Luann, future FOH? Candiace? Because I'm getting annoyed at her perpetual grumpiness and ultimatums, too. Basically, Bravo needs to break the chokehold that Gizelle and the other two GEBs have over Production because this is what started the downward spiral. As soon as they were able to get rid of Monique (with the help of that female EP who trashed Monique in the Diamonds & Rosé book), they thought they could pull the same trick going forward and get rid of anybody they wanted.

She absolutely should be a one and done. However, I worry that Flopmarie being a weekly trigger for the audience, Bravo decides, Brad Bell-styles, that an enraged audience is an engaged audience. It is this tactic which kept Teddi hanging in there for 3 straight seasons. Do I believe Crystal said those things about the women? Sure. She's said them for some time. Do I care? No. In the words of Kyle, Crystal is an entitled Millennial, and if you can't act snobby and entitled on BH, you don't belong there. Flopmarie is a nasty, gaslighting piece of work, but she didn't come up with this Crystal 'bombshell' on her own. I'm almost convinced the remnants of the Coven have put her up to it. Kyle has never liked Crystal, Dorit knows Crystal doesn't like her, and Erika's getting her jabs at Crystal in about the earrings. So Crystal is the target this trip, and it's a pity that Garcelle and Sutton aren't looking out for her just a little bit more. Kathy appearing on reunion is music to my ears. Rinna must be SO pissed! Re: RHUGT 4. We will never see that season. I don't think Caroline wants it to air, perhaps for many reasons, and I'm not sure Bravo wants to air it. either, because it asks uncomfortable questions about producers and whether they egged this on and let it happen.

Just leaving this slice of pure greatness here. Now THIS is how you bring real receipts to a reunion. Nobody has topped this unmasking, this deliverance of just desserts, ever, and it is making me miss Monique on RHOP. God knows the show needs her right now.