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Ooh even the 1972! Nice! I am fascinated how the ratings would see-saw each week... The soaps would gain and lose viewers so much, as opposed to the later years when they were much more stagnant and if they lost viewers, they would hardly get them back.

Yes!! I didn't realize it before, and had a busy weekend, so wasn't here much Wow, what happened to AMC this week? Crashing from 8.4 to 6.6.. I mean, I know they used to go up and down much more than they do today, but this seems like a harsh drop (from 7th to 13th). And nice to see Y&R's first weeks

Absolutely. I agree. Streamers need to stop putting so much money into their shows, because it's insane and unsustainable.

I get it. I know what network tv is and what streamers are. The math is still not mathing. But okay, I will stop

Sorry to come back on this... but I wonder how streamers even count the profitability of a show. On network tv is simple.. you have your budget and then you have the ad revenue. If ad revenue is higher, you are earning money, if it's lower, you lose money (in a simplest way explained, surely there are some other factors..) But I imagine streamers just have to sum up all the budgets/acquiring costs of all the different programs and then all the subscription profit. Because I just don't get how they would split the subscription profits per show. Because if I pay 10 USD per month, but I watch two shows, do they give each show 5 USD from me? What if I watch 5 episodes (but not the full season) of one show, and a whole season of the other show? For example, I have had Netflix since 2015, never cancelled my subscription in that period. I watch a bunch of stuff. That cannot possible say anything to Netflix about where to allocate my subscription profits. On the other hand, I pay Disney+ since it began and in the last year, I didn't watch anything there (I know, I'm silly to pay if I don't watch, but that's a different topic).. You cannot assign my subscription to any show on Disney+. I just don't get how they can calculate the profit per show.. I assume that shows that earn basically no views are easy to just cancel. But others? I don't know... anyone has ideas? EDIT: Was browsing now to see what the budgets are for DAYS and Traitors (I am using Traitors as example only because that's literally the only show I know from Peacock). And I found here on SON that DAYS budget until 2023 was 37.5 mil USD. I found online that Traitors budget is between 10-20 mil USD. So even if DAYS budget is cut at Peacock, surely it wasn't cut by 50%. So DAYS is still running a higher cost annually, while Traitors get like 7 times more the viewers per episode. I am not trying to ruin this for DAYS fans, really, I was just perplexed how Peacock can claim that DAYS their 2nd most watched show, when it clearly isn't. And again, if Peacock is happy with these figures, great..

I agree that DAYS is probably doing better from the cost perspective. But my point was just that I wouldn't say that DAYS is one of the most watched shows on Peacock. Because if it took DAYS 169 episodes to gather 3.1 billion minutes, but it only took another show 10 episodes to take 1.4 billion minutes, it's very clear. By comparison, 10 episodes of DAYS would not even hit 1 billion minutes, not even close. Better by cost, but not by views, is all I'm saying

Oh wow, thank you so much, Jason!!!

I agree. It is really silly how they always report these billions of minutes watched. I would think that having a show of 10 episode watched 2 billion times is better than having a soap opera with 200 episodes watched 3.5 billion times. Of course DAYS will have amassed more minutes watched, if it has hundreds episodes more per year. This metric makes no sense to me. But hey, if Peacock is happy... The guy that I follow for weekly streaming ratings on YouTube always converts these billions of minutes into views per episodes to have a better measure. So for example Traitors sometimes even appears in weekly top 10. I can see this logic actually. But I usually never see this mentioned as the reason for its success. Usually all the streamers are just bragging about the billions of minutes watched.

I am happy that Max (Branning) is back and that might get me back to watch the show again. I am happy that Bernie and Felix are leaving, because both are such boring characters to me. As for Ben being back.. I used to like him. But reading all that he's done in between me liking him and today makes me really dislike the character and I have no desire in seeing him unless he will be seen as a bad guy that he is on the show, which will not happen.

Hahaha Sorry if I was too negative, I just started typing and typing once I got going hahaha

I actually stopped watching. I find the show really bad at the moment (or at least before I stopped, which was shortly after Sonia and Bianca's exit). And I just saw the overnight ratings for last week, quite bad, below 2 mil. I don't like the nuMitchells all, I don't care about Avani and Joel, I hate what they have done to Kathy by making her an attempted murderer who is so chill about it, also she is pissed off at Cindy for cheating on Ian, yet she is enabling Harvey cheat on Jean, I don't like Peter and Lauren as a couple, she is always so toxic towards him, making Zach Barney's dad is such a lame decision and plot twist... I found Stacey vs Ruby in the end horrible for Stacey. Firstly she accoused Ruby of burning the stall, then when she learned it was Lily, she was bullying Ruby into not telling anyone and making Ruby leave the square with everyone thinking it was her who did it.. horrible look there for Stacey and Lily, who was such a brat there (I get she was going through a lot, but terrible mothering from Stacey there, to say: sure, you can commit arson, pin it on someone else and get away with it, if you're having tough time in your life). I still hate what they've done with Gina/Freddie/Anna, I think it ruined all three of them, the whole where George was during Cindy's attack was just forgotten, which is sloppy and I just didn't like Terry Cant's rushed return, that was such a let down which led to the rushed exit for Sonia. So as you can see, I just don't like the show at all

These contract guarantees of 1 ep per month are ridiculous. How can you even have a story if your character apprars 4-5 times in a month? It's sad.

She looks like she could be Chandler Massey's sister, def not his dauguter. These SORASes are just ridiculous. Its almost like Christel Khalil having college aged kids.

Yes, that's what I was thinking - I trust you more than IMDB Here you go, I did it Thanks once again for the data!

Oh good, that will help! Thanks!!

Does someone maybe have a list of years with a total number of episodes aired per each year? Maybe @JAS0N47

Fair point. Just think that a lot of (mainly younger) people today don't watch TV anymore at either time of the day, hence would not be aware of the existence of soaps.

It's not just Aussies.. I've seen recently several examples where Americans online thought Days of Our Lives is not on anymore. But that's not to think they lost track after the show moved to Peacock... First example, a young American couple who review TV shows on YouTube.. they are currently watching Friends and there is the whole "Drake Ramoray storyline" going on. When they first mentioned Days on Friends, the guy said: "Oh that's a real show from the 80s my Grandma used to watch!" The girl never heard of DAYS and the guy was saying it used to run on tv many years ago and said the show was one for "like 20 years, like Grey's Anatomy". I told them in the comments that DAYS still exists and that it's on for sixty years. Second example is a bunch of young guys commenting on music, somehow got to the topic of Days of Our Lives and one of them referred to Marlena being possessed by the devil and wondered if Days was still on or not and if Marlena was still on the show. I told them yes. Also I spoke to one British guy recently and mentioned EastEnders to him and he had no idea it was still on, but he also said he never watched it in the first place, so I guess he was avoiding it altogether. So I think a lot of people are not aware of the soaps anymore. There is so much content elsewhere, so they don't watch daytime. And I guess since soaps are not advertised in primetime anymore (aside from BTG now), someone who doesn't watch daytime would have no clue about what soaps still exist.

I usually LOVE Italy. It' s probably my favorite ESC country. I gotta say, I loved Olly (the winner of SanRemo), and I am sad he's not going to Eurovision. Lucio... I love the lyrics. They really are relatable. But I just don't like the song as much. Serbia is boring. But since Serbia qualifies every year, I don't mind them not qualifying this year and giving up the space for someone who hasn't been in the final for a while. Croatia (my country).. I gotta say, when the songs came out, I really loved this song. However I knew it would need to have amazing staging. Also I had no idea who Marko Bošnjak was, and when I heard the song, I thought it was some cool new band. But then when I realized who is singing it, my enthusiasm went down, because I just didn't believe Marko could pull it off. And now that he won (pushed by the juries, not the televote), I am still not convinced. The staging looked cheap (but okay, they can elevate for Eurovision), but I am still not convinced by HIM.. He needs to massively improve vocally, the big notes are not there. And also he needs to be better and switching between the "cute" and scary moments. Also, I think his "cute" moments should be more like, cute-creepy. UK and Czechia came out today. I don't know why but I thought Czechia would be a banger. But it's not. It's nice, I suppose. He has a nice voice. UK is fun! I hope the ladies can sing, because I like the studio version. And in previous years I enjoyed the studio version as well, but it would fall apart live. So I hope they can sing live. Otherwise I predict another bottom 5.

My favorite it still Albania after all these months. Such an interesting song, with strong lyrics and charismatic performer (the girl, not the guy lol). I do enjoy some other songs, but none are really giving me winner vibes. Austria came out today and I guess I could see that win, but isn't that just too similar to Nemo? I don't see the same thing winning twice in a row. I just hope Mans doesn't win for Sweden again (sorry, I am Swede). Mans' song is just horrible. He is an amazing performer and the staging is awesome, but the song itself is just a bunch of nothing, in my opinion. So I hope Kaj goes for Sweden, it's a real fun song. Even if it does sing about sauna culture lol Out of other songs, I do enjoy Netherlands (even though the chorus is so weak and repetitive, I like the rest of the song a lot), Luxembourg, Belgium... I love Australia unless I actually listen to the lyrics. The groove and music and the singer are really cool, but again, the lyrics are just bad. This year's fandom favorites like Finland and Poland do nothing for me. And I hope Estonia does not qualify.

OMG, you are Sue Osman on Walford Web? How exciting! I loved this post there as well.

I am currently in hate mode for this show. The way they made me feel tonight, I shouldn't allow a TV show to make me feeling. And yet here I am several hours later, angry and heartbroken.

I have been on a real high with the show last year, but during the last few months, I have cooled off sadly. I was really disappointed with Christmas, simply because I found the Cindy/Junior storyline such a weak storyline to be fronting Christmas. And then when that switched to a whodunnit, I cared even less, just because I felt it was such a poorly constructed storyline. I honestly don't think anyone (except maybe Junior) would have hit Cindy because she cheated. And whoever is revealed to have done it will be ruined, in my opinion (again, aside from Junior). I did enjoy Sonia/Reiss/Bianca stuff, but there was on such a long break from that story (I know, actresses went on vacation, but I don't care, I still blame the show for such bad planning and pacing of that story) and then I have a feeling now has been rushed through. So again, somewhat poor pacing. I hated Sonia's trial, when out of nowhere Sonia wanted to plead guilty, when I didn't understand why she is doing this, other than to push the plot. I enjoyed Sonia's discovery of the truth and the scenes where she confronts Reiss. Natalie and Jonny were both awesome. I didn't like Bianca just arriving out of the sudden and saving Sonia. But I am curious how this will go on now. I hope we deal with some PTSD for Bianca before both ladies leave the show. Phil and Nigel's storyline are amazing. I cannot find faults there (or can I ). I have really been enjoying them and the performances have been amazing. I was slightly disappointed with the special Phil 1985 episode, just because I thought it would hit me more, that I would be crying, but it didn't. I was taken out of the story when we would cut to the stag party or for some reason Linda's return (even though they tried to connect it to Phil's story, it didn't work for me). Also Jay and Sharon just leaving Phil, even though he almost broke down in front of Jay, yet he just left... So yeah... But I am still enjoying this storyline immensely. Denise's little instant love triangle is a disaster. Probably my least favorite storyline. Which is shame because Denise is one of my favorites. But she should be with neither of them. Jack is scum for cheating on her, Ravi is a drug dealing, children bridge hanging, kidnapper and murder and aside from Aaron Thiara being hot and charismatic, I don't get the appeal of Ravi as a character. There was no investing in Jack/Denise for months, they just got divorced (what was the point?!) and she clearly told him she sees him as a friend like two weeks ago and yet now suddenly she is choosing. Whatever. From technical perspective it is impressive that they created wrote and filmed two different paths, but for me it was a wrong storyline to invest so much time and effort in. I hate how the Six fizzled out. I hate how Tommy/Kat story fizzled out. I hate that Nugget is such a Nish worshiper now. I didn't get why Ian took Cindy back after the brick thing. I hate that Gina slept with Freddie, made no sense, both characters suffered A LOT for me here. George basically forcing Kojo to lie for him and be his alibi was a huge character assassination for me. The market storyline was probably one of the most boring things I have ever seen on a soap opera. And as much as I love Stacey/Martin, the whole addition of Ruby has been really dull. Okay, maybe "hate" is a too strong of a feeling, maybe it's just disappointment, but whatever.. So yeah... was great for a while, but last few months, the show did a lot of mistakes in my opinion. But weirdly enough, I am still excited for next week and for the 40th and the live show.

I have put this as my desktop background

Yes, same here. Basically all the young actors were unknown inexperienced newbies. As for the older actors, I only knew the actress that played the mother of the twins.. all of the other older actors were also unknown to me, and were also hit or miss.