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After her initial 1983-1986 run, Dina came back in 1991, 1996, 2008 for brief periods. Dina's 2017 return was what the Abbott family needed at that time and she really should've been set up to be Y&R's new grand dame.
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Of the original B&B characters as written by Bill Bell, the best were Stephanie and Caroline. Yes we could see the Y&R influences, Stephanie being a Jennifer/Katherine/Vanessa hybrid and Caroline being a Chris/Leslie hybrid, but it was the combination of Bill Bell's writing and the acting of Susan Flannery and Joanna Johnson that made these two characters the most memorable of B&B's early years. Plus if we're keeping it real here, it was easy to ignore Ronn Moss's horrible acting in the first three years of B&B whenever Ridge had a scene with Stephanie or Caroline.
For those who watched these original Y&R stories and their B&B versions, how would you compare the two:
Chris/Snapper relationship and the surrounding storylines (Chris's rape, Greg falling for Chris) vs. Caroline/Ridge relationship and the surrounding storylines (Caroline's rape, Thorne falling for Caroline).
Lance/Lucas/Leslie/Lorie quadrangle with Vanessa in the background vs. Ridge/Thorne/Caroline/Brooke quadrangle with Stephanie in the background.
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Wrong thread.
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@j swiftI remember that story. It was surprising that Katherine would turn to her nemesis Jill for support during her cancer scare.
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4 minutes ago, amybrickwallace said:
They haven't for years. None of the soaps take risks anymore.
If we're being totally honest here, I'd say it's been that way for the better part of the last 25 years. 1996 seemed to be the year when the genre on the whole began its decline.
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@soapfan770Are you talking about the Legal Aid confrontation? The background for that confrontation is Nikki was outside Victor's office and witnessed Victor comforting Christine over Christine's broken engagement to Paul. Nikki in her mid-1990s snooty lady of the manor peak then proceeds to saunter over to Legal Aid and puts Christine on blast for getting too close to Victor. At least that's what I remember. If only that scene would surface again.
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@yrfan1983 Nikki even accused Christine of being in love with Victor and also wanting his money. I couldn't believe Nikki would go that far. Christine held her ground though.
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@yrfan1983 Since you're watching May 1996, have you gotten to Who Shot Victor and the fallout?
I rewatched some of that storyline recently and there is a Nikki/Christine confrontation at the hospital I had forgotten about. I remember their confrontation at Legal Aid, that scene I haven't found online anywhere.
I still can't believe Bill Bell alluded to a Victor/Christine pairing in 1996. In the primetime episode it was set up as though something was going to happen between Victor and Christine and if it did, I probably would've lost my dinner
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Watching those early scenes of Jerry Douglas (RIP) and Terry Lester (RIP) makes me miss TL's Jack so much more. Jack was such a layered character when TL was in the role, playboy on the surface but deep down a lost little boy with abandonment issues from his mother leaving the family that was always looking for his father's love and approval but would mess up while doing so and as such could not live up to his father's legacy.
Even though the Abbotts were almost all recasts by the end of their first decade, Bill Bell didn't phase them out like he did with the original families. Maybe it's me but I felt Bill Bell was losing interest in the Abbotts during the 1994-1997 off-track era.
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@ReddFoxx I swear Daniel Goddard had something on someone at Sony, that's why he was employed for 12 years.
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‘The Big Leap’ & ‘Our Kind Of People’ To Wrap Short Runs On Fox – Deadline
Not a good sign for a second season.
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Y&R's Twitter has posted
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Killing off John Abbott was the worst thing Y&R ever did and it marked the end of an era. Y&R has not been the same ever since then.
RIP Jerry Douglas and thank you for the 24 years you were the heart of the Abbott family.
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So sad to read about Jerry Douglas passing away, and so soon after his birthday. I'm sure there will be an in memoriam segment in the next few days.
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20 hours ago, Paul Raven said:
It's a pity he didn't follow through in the 90's and introduce a viable set of new characters and drop some others along the way.
In a way Bill Bell did, with the intros of the Barber sisters and Winters brothers, and the SORASing of Victoria and Nick.
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1 hour ago, ChickenNuggetz92 said:
If you guys thought this show looked broke
Broke as in budget mode?
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48 minutes ago, Sasha66 said:
What would you describe that archetype per say? Like the type of character she was
Anti-heroine.
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Bill Bell wrote Brooke as a Jill/Lorie hybrid. Bradley turned her into the Forrester family mattress.
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Y&R has had a hollow empty feeling for a while now. In all honesty, the last episodes I really remember enjoying were the 12000th episode and EB's 40th anniversary episode.
Who has the next big anniversary? I think it was November or December 1991 that CLB arrived as Michael, but he was gone for four years after his initial storyline so not really an anniversary.
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Sharon has been written badly since 2009. Becoming involved with three sets of brothers and the father of one of the sets, and having a three way who's the daddy were the low points.
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@j swift 1984 Los Angeles daytime dramas: Y&R, Capitol, General Hospital, Days, Santa Barbara.
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47 minutes ago, Soapsuds said:
Don't you just love @BetterForgotten??
Yes
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8 hours ago, BetterForgotten said:
Oh wow, this is a huge flop (much like most of Brandy's career post-Moesha/Full Moon).
The shade
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Taylor Swift is the 7th female solo artist to reach 8 #1s on the Billboard Hot 100. The female solo artists to reach 8 or more #1s on the Billboard Hot 100 are Mariah Carey (19), Rihanna (14), Madonna (12), Whitney Houston (11), Janet Jackson (10), Katy Perry (9), Taylor Swift (8).
If we do not count Elvis Presley's 11 pre-Billboard Hot 100 #1s, Taylor Swift is the 19th artist to reach 8 or more #1s on the Billboard Hot 100.