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4 hours ago, titan1978 said:

There are times that I think that era of GL was almost perfect soap opera, the Calhoun period into JFP’s  The Blackout.

I didn't watch GL for very long, Spring 1989 to Summer 1992, but I'm so glad I was able to see that era live as much as school would allow and then online years later.

1999 - Daytime Emmy Awards - Stuart Damon - YouTube

RIP. I'm sure there will be a lot of tributes on social media over the next few days.

Has anyone commented on the Marguerite Ray/Veronica Redd mixup in the In Memoriam segment? Veronica Redd is still alive AFAIK.

1 hour ago, robbwolff said:

I recollect these two soaps being discussed in Soap Opera Digest before Jon-Michael Reed's 1984 column. I believe the Stewart soap went by two titles: Grosse Pointe and Star Crossed. The Bauer soap was known as The Barons at one point and then The Billionaires at another time. At one time, both soaps were slated to be part of an expanded CBS lineup and were set to debut around September 1983, likely in the late morning/early afternoon. 

 

CBS probably would've shrunken the game show block to accommodate these new shows. I'm thinking the ET schedule would've changed to:

10-11 am The Price is Right

11 am-Noon New Daytime Dramas

Noon-12:30 pm Local News

12:30-1:30 pm Y&R

1:30-2:30 pm As the World Turns

2:30-3 pm Capitol

3-4 pm Guiding Light

4-4:30 pm $25,000 Pyramid

On 2/24/2021 at 10:21 AM, Franko said:

CBS, both from Paul Rauch:

-- a show set in Detroit and concerning the auto industry, with headwriter Fred Mustard Stewart (Grosse Pointe?)

-- "The Barons," by Barbara Bauer, about a family in what we'd now call the 1 percent

(in the wings if one of the network's shows fail or they expand the soap lineup)

Even if any of these made it to CBS Daytime, they would've been placeholders/time-fillers until Bill Bell had a second show ready. 

15 hours ago, soapfan770 said:

shows how many soaps were in the crapper at the time still trying to coast off the 80’s (hello Days!). It was a year before quite a few soaps found their 90’s revival kick in 

Fall 1990 to end of 1992 Days was that transition period between the supercouple era and Reilly's sci-fi era. It's one of those periods that's not really talked about much.

Marla Adams winning was the highlight of this sad sack show. Marla is the first winner in either supporting or lead that was over age 80 at the time of their win.

23 hours ago, BoldRestless said:

So I almost forgot this airs tomorrow.  I know we are all dizzy with anticipation. 

Hahaha. I'll just follow along here, as I've been doing for the last decade. It's more fun than watching the actual ceremony.

On 6/23/2021 at 4:45 PM, Jonathan said:

JFP got hired time and time again because she was good at raising the demo ratings and, to a lesser extent, winning Emmys.

On 6/23/2021 at 6:05 PM, soapfan770 said:

From what I learned from this:

 

-Actually I am glad she thinks blackout week on GL was her proudest achievement because it was indeed her finest moment and thought Demorest, Curlee and Reilly were great to work for. She should have just stayed focused on the production values as opposed as she puts it “let her mind wander”’ as I am quite sure that lead to Maureen’s death.

JFP got GL's ratings up in 1991/1992 and the blackout was the zenith. Sadly the momentum didn't last. I will forever maintain that Robert Calhoun laid all the groundwork but JFP got all the credit. I still can't believe that JFP lasted almost 4 years (July 1991 to May 1995), almost twice as long as Robert Calhoun (June 1989 to July 1991).

On 6/23/2021 at 7:48 PM, soapfan770 said:

Was Marcy Walker as Tangie on GL the original FOJ? 

I'd say the original FOJ at least on GL was Vincent Irizarry. I think Nick was introduced not long after JFP became EP. Also while on GL Mark Derwin was added to the FOJ list, I believe she got him cast on One Life to Live in the late 1990s.

1 hour ago, FrenchBug82 said:

But it is still hard for me to wrap my head around the fact she has been playing Victoria longer than HT ever played her. And that in itself says all that needs to be said.

Also by this fall Heather Tom will have been Katie for 14 years, 1 year longer than she was Victoria.

17 minutes ago, Vee said:

Def keep the beard.

 

It's about time the soap industry's longstanding glass closet began to break - first Rikaart and guys like Tuc Watkins, Lachlan Buchanan or Nic Robuck (after they left their respective soaps, although Tuc was on OLTL 2013 following publicly coming out), now this. Not sure I can remember who else; Beth Ann Bonner was after she left OLTL, though Clementine Ford was on Y&R at the same time. I'm not sure Susan Flannery ever publicly came out. I still feel Y&R should weave both Fisher brothers' bisexuality into the story, a la Todd Haynes' Far from Heaven.

Based on their Instagram, Ian Buchanan.

The speculation about Susan Flannery is also 20+ years, but at this point in her life (retired and turning 82 next month) she may not feel the need to be open publicly, but for all we know she could be open among her family/friends.

3 hours ago, YRfan23 said:

So not that this is surprising news or anything but apparently CLB finally confirmed during an interview with Maurice Bernard he’s gay and has been with his husband for about 10 years. 

20+ years of speculation has finally been put to an end. 

@FrenchBug82 @Paul Raven Also Whiteface Tyrone. That would not happen today.

I got the impression Jazz was brought on to cash in on Mr. T's popularity. Tyrone was another Bill Bell educated professional with a troublemaking sibling (see also Casey/Nikki, Olivia/Dru, Neil/Malcolm).

That whole police corruption/mob angle during the H. Wesley Kenney years was way too General Hospital/Days. I wonder how much of that was Bill Bell's own choice and how much of it was pressure from CBS to jump on the action/adventure bandwagon. Notice how all the action/adventure elements pretty much disappeared once Ed Scott took over as EP.

45 minutes ago, FrenchBug82 said:

Yep. That was a very animal-like pose (cue the "wild boy of the jungle" trope).
Even back then I had flagged Luan's meekness as the usual trope about submissive Asian women but I had not remembered until now how icky the way Keemo was introduced was.

Both Bell shows had racially offensive storylines in the summer of 1994. Taylor the Desert Princess was bad, but Keemo's introduction was worse.

4 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

 

I remember when a lot of soap fans that hated Sharon insisted that she and Victor had "consummated" the marriage by sleeping together, though it was never shown or discussed onscreen. I was like "Nope, didn't happen if it didn't show up onscreen". Now unfortunately, it seems like most of the events take place offscreen on these soaps now. Interesting though, that Y&R wanted to court controversy with the storyline but also wanted an escape hatch by not showing a physical relationship between former father and daughter-in-law onscreen. They knew that garbage was bad.

Victor and Sharon were never shown in bed together. There was one scene where they held hands and walked upstairs together, so the bedroom activities were implied.

I've blocked out Ashley's 1996-1999 storylines from my mind. Worst recast ever, even moreso than Eddie Winslow.

Aww @Taoboi you're so kind

@Taoboi @Faulkner No Sheila please. That character was played out by 1998.

Y&R - 10% good, 90% garbage time

A milestone anniversary in Y&R history this month: June 8 marks 40 years since CBS moved Y&R to its current time slot 12:30 pm ET, where it would proceed to destroy everything in it's path.

Also a cast member celebrating a milestone birthday this month: Jordi Vilasuso turns 40 on June 15.

Marla Adams and Alyvia Alyn Lind are the only bright spots in this sad sack list. If Marla wins, she'll be the first winner in the acting categories over age 80 at the time of their win. If Alyvia or Sydney Mikayla win, they'll be the first winner in the acting categories born in the 2000s.

It's nomination #6 for both Thorsten Kaye and Melissa Claire Egan. They have the longest losing streaks of the nominees.

Aww, Aunt Rachel and Little Richie together again.

Y&R/Family Matters connections so far.

1985-1986: Kristoff St. John (RIP) and Jaleel White played brothers on the CBS sitcom "Charlie & Company".

1996: Christel Khalil guest starred on Family Matters.

1998: Kristoff St. John guest starred on Family Matters.

1998: Michelle Thomas (RIP) joined Y&R as Callie Rogers.

2004: Bryton James joined Y&R as Devon.

2009: Darius McCrary joined Y&R as recast Malcolm Winters.

2021: Telma Hopkins joins Y&R as Denise Tolliver.

Nick/Sharon ate the show in the aftermath of OJ. Nobody I knew of the middle school/high school demographic back then was checking for the frat party, they were all watching Reilly's Sci-Fi Days.

With Stop Asian Hate being in the news lately, I thought of a Chinese-American character that hasn't been mentioned in this thread, Falcon Crest's Chao-Li. Through a 2021 lens the character would probably be considered problematic, but in the context of Chinese-American history in Northern California it's possible that a wealthy family in California Wine Country in 1981 could have an older Chinese-American male as their domestic help.

18 hours ago, DRW50 said:

Claudia and Enrique also came in at the time there were strong rumors B&B was going to expand to an hour. When that didn't happen, they likely got the chop.

Sounds about right. I remember B&B having a cast purge in spring 1997.

On 2/25/2021 at 7:00 PM, Cruising Soaps said:

Any soap that was not on CBS.

Same here. The peak years of CBS Daytime on the whole were the late 1980s/early 1990s.