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Ed Scott has always given me s--- disturber vibes and I don't find it a coincidence that all the backstage drama at Y&R began when he became EP. I also believe Ed Scott played a part in the departures of Brenda Dickson, Eileen Davidson, and Terry Lester. In Victoria Rowell's "novels", it's pretty clear that the soap opera producer is based on Ed Scott. Surprisingly, Eric Braeden wrote positively of Ed Scott in his book. When Ed Scott first became EP, he ended all the action/adventure elements and Y&R became more corporate. Yes, Y&R reached #1 during Ed Scott's original run, but he got credit for the groundwork that was laid by H. Wesley Kenney.

@Taoboi Hahaha, I love it. Thanks for the mention 🤗

@vetsoapfan Which did the most damage to GL? Douglas Marland departure. Gail Kobe/Pamela Long chasing all the 1980s trends. Writer turnover during Joe Willmore run. Killing off Maureen Bauer. Nancy Curlee departure. To me killing off Maureen Bauer felt like the beginning of the end and Nancy Curlee departure felt like the end. The P&G shows were not in a good place creatively in June 1994 (Nancy Curlee departure from GL was three months earlier, Douglas Marland material was done at As the World Turns, Another World had been limping along for 15 years) when OJ began and I feel they were effectively over in the aftermath of OJ. In the 1990s ratings thread we can see that by the end of 1995 the P&G shows are the bottom tier (Bell shows and Days were the top and ABC big three were the middle).

@titan1978 Seasons 5 and 6 were Knots Landing best seasons. The final 10 episodes of season 6 were the peak of the series for me.

Robert Calhoun/Douglas Marland run at As the World Turns was September 1985 to October 1988. It took about a year for As the World Turns to show growth but even with the ratings increase that started Fall 1986, As the World Turns was jockeying for position in the Top 5 with the ABC big three and supercouple Days. I don't believe that supercouple Days was a better show than Robert Calhoun/Douglas Marland As the World Turns and Robert Calhoun GL despite the ratings showing otherwise. Robert Calhoun run at GL did not see a ratings increase which to me is unfortunate. Since his groundwork got the ratings up for a year from July 1991, then I think if Robert Calhoun had stayed for another year he would have gotten the ratings up too.

Yes, JFP got the ratings up in her first year, but to me she was coasting off the groundwork laid during Robert Calhoun's run. It also helped that the ABC big three were tanking at various times during that year and Days was in their post-supercouple/pre-Reilly mess era.

Robert Calhoun run was June 1989 to July 1991. Recall that SOD named GL Most Improved Show of 1989 and to me it was thanks to Robert Calhoun. It still disappoints me that the ratings during Robert Calhoun's run did not reflect the quality of the show. I'd go as far as to say that Robert Calhoun was GL's last good EP and he was the only good EP they had in the final 25 years.

So Paul has lost both his children. I don't count rewrite son Dylan as he's been wiped from the canon.

@Taoboi @BoldRestless @soapfan770 You are killing me 🤣 We really shouldn't be giving Josh Griffith ideas though.

This month is Michelle Stafford 30th anniversary. Wonder what will be in store for that.

You're welcome @Khan and I totally agree w/ you re MSW/GG.

@Khan Text from the Chicago Tribune article.

@Khan I take it you weren't a fan of Melrose Place?

To think if Marcia Cross had a longer run on Knots Landing, we might not have gotten Dr. Kimberly Shaw of Melrose Place.

Today (September 30) is the 40th anniversary of Murder, She Wrote. Good reads for the anniversary: Column: On its 40th anniversary, "Murder, She Wrote" remains the best (chicagotribune.com) Murder She Wrote Turns 40 | Opinion | yesweekly.com

Days has had so much loss in the last 30 years. An entire generation with the heads of all the main families (Macdonald Carey, Frances Reid, Joseph Mascolo, Frank Parker, Peggy McCay, John Aniston) and now losses in the subsequent generations (John Clarke, Bill Hayes, Drake Hogestyn). I'd like to think that to Days fans there's some comfort in knowing they are all upstairs together and are sharing memories of their time working with each other.

@Maxim I haven't watched regularly since 1999, so that's why my list stops at 1997. IMDb has a list that might not be complete though The Bold and the Beautiful (TV Series 1987– ) - Filming & production - IMDb

IIRC, B&B location shoots in its first decade were Queen Mary (1989), St. Thomas (1992), Catalina (1993), Barbados (1996), Lake Como (1997).

Of the CBS primetime soaps, I'm pretty sure Knots Landing had the most former daytime actors in the main cast or in short arcs. I pointed out before that CBS had so much of their own daytime talent that could have been used on their primetime soaps but for whatever reason the CBS primetime soaps used ABC/NBC daytime actors instead. I have a feeling demographics played a part in that, since CBS on the whole skewed older compared to ABC/NBC.

This is shocking. RIP.

CBS daytime had the best promos BITD.

Hahaha 🤣 Sadly I don't have much hope for October being any different.

September was like 90% garbage time.

The William Devane Exclusive Interview Sep 2024 (knotslanding.net) From this interview, I get the impression that William Devane was on his way out and would not have returned had there been a season 15. At the start of the final season, the longest-tenured main cast members were Michele Lee, Ted Shackelford, Kevin Dobson, and William Devane and during the final season all but Michele Lee had their episodes cut. Michele Lee took a pay cut to appear in all episodes of the final season. If Knots Landing had season 15 in Fall 1993 it would have looked old school next to peak 90210, Melrose about to take off, and new drama NYPD Blue.

Lets not derail this thread by giving Josh Griffith stunt casting ideas.