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I am loving @Vee recaps. We are five episodes away from Ava Gardner. Her arc was a highlight for me. Between Lana Turner, Dorothy McGuire, and Ava Gardner, CBS soaps loved casting Golden Age Hollywood actresses as mothers to their villains. Ava Gardner was keeping it real when she admitted taking the part on Knots Landing for money. Ava Gardner still a star - UPI Archives A couple of cast interviews that mention Ava's arc. It seems she was well-liked and didn't throw any diva demands. A Conversation with Constance McCashin from Knots Landing Jan 2023 The Dallas Decoder Interview: Joan Van Ark – Dallas Decoder

I think all shows that weren't the ABC big three suffered. NBC on the whole was a giant mess in the late 1970s/early 1980s. CBS daytime was shaken up to the point that they made numerous scheduling changes in the early 1980s.

Victor/Nikki the accident supercouple but 1981-1984 they didn't get the same degree of attention in the soap press that General Hospital Luke/Laura and Days Bo/Hope did. There was also really no Y&R couple 1985-1989 that got the same degree of attention in the soap press that Santa Barbara Cruz/Eden and Days Steve/Kayla did.

@divinemotion Bradley realized B&B was tanking during summer 1995, that's why in the fall Sheila returned and Lauren relocated from Y&R. Funny thing is that 1996-1998 Sheila/Lauren were hardly in each other's orbits.

That's right, one full contract (spring 1985 to spring 1988). Her departure was during the writer's strike and before Robert Calhoun was replaced as EP by Laurence Caso.

Julianne Moore also had the good fortune of being on As the World Turns during the Robert Calhoun/Douglas Marland era when it was at its peak.

@soapfan770 Yeah, early 1996 it looked like there was going to be a Jill/Ryan hookup but it didn't happen. Instead we got that awful Nina/Ryan/Victoria/Cole quad. For whatever reason Bill Bell put teenage Victoria in the orbit of college-aged adults instead of building a teen group around her like he would w/ Nick a few years later.

Robert Calhoun laid all the groundwork for GL's early 1990s golden era but JFP ended up getting all the credit.

@ironlion I never got Ryan's appeal and can't figure out how he lasted for 10 years. He basically replaced Chase Benson (whom I don't think even got a proper exit storyline; he stopped appearing in late 1990 or early 1991) in the up-and-coming Jabot executive ranks. I also wonder if Bill Bell used Ryan to fill the void left from killing off Phillip III.

Preparing for streaming maybe.

Yes, but it made Ashley/Traci romantic rivals which did not suit the characters.

This should be a good episode. @ltm1997 I also hope we get to see TB first scene.

Jill/Nina lines up w/ Nikki/Sharon and Vanessa/Lorie lines up w/ Stephanie/Brooke. Brooke/Amber was Bradley's version of Jill/Nina and Nikki/Sharon.

@Liberty City @Faulkner Victor/Ashley worked w/ ED in her original run because Bill Bell saw that EB was a match for ED's acting style. I didn't feel EB had the same connection w/ BE as he did w/ ED in her original run.

Larsa Pippen Photographed Kissing Michael Jordan's Son Marcus (people.com) Am I the only person who finds the whole dynamic of their relationship creepy? I am pretty sure she was aware of him in the 1990s when he was a child. If a 48 year old man was dating a 32 year old woman that was the daughter of his ex's former colleague and he had been aware of her since she was a child, it would look like he was creeping/sniffing around her the whole time.

NBC tried primetime soaps with Flamingo Road, Bare Essence, Yellow Rose, Berrengers but none of them worked. It also didn't help that NBC was a mess in primetime for most of the time primetime soaps as a genre was at its peak.

Could Taylor move past Janet/Whitney/Madonna soon as far as #1s go?

Who's the Boss first two episodes were Thursday 8:30 pm, then moved to Tuesday 8:30 pm. Fall 1985 moved up to Tuesday 8 pm where it took off and ABC Tuesday rebounded. Who's the Boss was ABC's only new show from Fall 1984 to return Fall 1985.

Also Stephanie/Brooke and to a lesser extent Nikki/Sharon. Adding to Bill Bell Mother that favors one son over the other: Vanessa, Cora, Stephanie Upper class background/working class background romantic rivals: Ashley/Nikki, Caroline/Brooke

John Abbott's death on Y&R, because it felt like the end of an era. In all honesty, Y&R hasn't been the same since.

I had no idea The Cosby Show was originally offered to ABC. The Cosby Show on ABC might have gotten Thursday 8:30 pm where Who's the Boss was originally scheduled. ABC was a mess in 1984/85 despite Dynasty reaching #1, so The Cosby Show may not have had the same success on ABC that it did on NBC.

@ironlionBill Bell also used vixen daughter all about the come up becomes involved with the upper class/wealthy man that her working class mother loves w/ Jill/Stuart/Liz and Brooke/Eric/Beth.

Bill Bell had characters/storylines with elements from literature, film, and biblical allusions, but then again that could apply to all writers.

@ranger1rg As long as JM still has that overgrown frat boy persona, Nick will too.