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One of the worst things Y&R did was fire Jerry Douglas and kill off John Abbott. He really was the heart of the family.
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A lot of shows got influenced by Dallas/Dynasty in the 1980s so we started seeing elements that were originally not part of a show's identity, things like wealthy business owning families, oil companies, horse ranches, mothers that abandoned their families to live a jet set life, newly rich widows, foreign divas, luxury penthouses. Also a lot of shows jumped on the action/adventure/supercouple bandwagon in the 1980s and the sci-fi bandwagon in the 1990s when those really didn't suit a lot of show's identities.
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5 minutes ago, Fevuh said:
But I agree about the acting. The NY soaps had people who worked on Broadway and had done stage and you just don't see that with the West Coast shows like the NY soaps were. To me the caliber of acting was just far superior overall. I wish a network would take the leap and do it.
Weren't daytime dramas originally created in New York to be day jobs for Broadway actors? I would guess once daytime dramas started being produced in Los Angeles, we saw more actors being hired for looks as opposed to actual acting talent.
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Wasn't a yacht explosion the finale of The Edge of Night's CBS run? Maybe CBS/Y&R thought that 30 years later nobody would notice.
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13 minutes ago, Soaplovers said:
Generations had a slow start after nice hype, and 12:30/11:30 for NBC.was a graveyard time slot.
Once CBS moved Y&R to 12:30 pm ET where it would then really explode and eventually reach #1, that time slot became ABC and NBC's death slots.
10 minutes ago, Fevuh said:I've said the same thing RE: B&B. They gave it the slot after Y&R in alot of the country or after the noon news. Capitol should have been given more of a chance. It was cancelled with ratings in the middle of the pack. It might have been the lowest rated CBS soap but they were determined to give another show to the Bells. I remember one time one of the Soap magazines named Capitol's cast as the best looking in Daytime and they really were.
My feeling is Capitol made it to air as CBS wanted something younger and more glamorous to compete with ABC but it's purpose was to be a placeholder/time filler until Bill Bell had a second show ready for CBS. I really think CBS wanted a second Bell show on the air in 1982, but Y&R was still in transition mode then so maybe Bill Bell decided to get Y&R settled before working on a second show.
Bill Bell himself mentioned CBS first approached him about a second show in 1977 so if he had one ready then, Guiding Light probably doesn't go to 1 hour that year. Maybe a late 1970s Bell show might have had that Chicago newspaper setting that I thought Rags was going to be. The conflict could have been an old money established family that runs the long time legitimate newspaper and a family that runs an upstart tabloid newspaper.
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1 minute ago, Fevuh said:
Wasn't it Julia's former boyfriend or something?
Michael Scott was a photographer that was attracted to Julia, who was working as a model. Victor thought Julia was cheating on him with Michael. Victor kidnapped Michael and locked him in the dungeon.
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1 minute ago, Fevuh said:
Victor did it years before....
Oh, the dungeon in the ranch basement.
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@Soapsuds Thanks for posting these 1990s rankings. We'll get to see how much the ratings dropped due to OJ and how close James Reilly's sci-fi Days came to Y&R during summer 1997.
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15 minutes ago, Fevuh said:
Brad and his crazy former wife or girlfriend (don't remember which) - the one with the super long hair - Lisa Mansfield???
Lisa with the long hair was Brad's first wife. I remember the Brad in a cage story. That was the type of story one would expect to see on Days or Passions, not Y&R.
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By 1990, B&B had more affiliate clearance than it did from 1987-1989 so I would imagine the Y&R viewers carried over. Plus by 1990, Bill Bell figured out which characters were working and which weren't, ie. the Spectra gang became prominent while the Logan family was phased out.
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1 minute ago, YRfan23 said:
I don't know what for, but I think B&B was preempted Monday February 19, 1990...Y&R wasn't preempted, but I think B&B and ATWT might have been. I remember checking the end of the 2/16/90 ATWT episode, and one of the concluding scenes picks up on the 2/20/90, which would be the following Tuesday.
B&B seemed to be preempted about 3-4 Times between Feb-March 1991, but knowing exact dates are tricky..I got 2/27/91 being one of them thanks to the Google Fourms..Monday February 19, 1990 was President's Day and CBS aired a NBA regular season game that afternoon. CBS had the broadcasting rights for NBA from 1973-1990.
CBS Sports pre-emptions for B&B AFAIK were US Open (1987-2014), NBA regular season games (President's Day 1989, President's Day 1990), March Madness (1991-2019), Winter Olympics (1992, 1994, 1998).
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I think Lauren's 1984 stories were her singing career, the marriage to Paul, and the arrival of her mother JoAnna.
1985 was the second of Terry Lester's four consecutive nominations for Lead Actor. Sadly Terry never got a Lead Actor win, but if you look at the 1984-1987 Lead Actor races, the competition those years was tough.
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12 hours ago, Soapsuds said:
It's from 1991. OLTL had a horrible 1991. GL wasn't having a great 91 either.
ATWT had the Carolyn Crawford murder mystery and Holden/Lily wedding, Connor taking over Walsh Enterprise and Julie giving birth to Aaron, Holden son/one night stand and all of Oakdale finding out.
Not sure what the others soaps storylines were.
Y&R's big 1991 stories were Nikki's substance abuse, the baby switch, and David Kimble. I don't remember too much about B&B that year, except the Logans were pretty much all gone and replaced by the Spectra gang, Stephanie's stroke and homelessness, and Caroline's twin Karen was introduced. 1991 was a transition year for GL as there was a head writer change, big cast changes, and an EP change but it was still enjoyable; highlight was Alexandra/Roger at the country club in July.
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In the entire history of the Younger Actor/Actress categories, I counted 3 winners before age 13: Justin Gocke (1989), Kimberly McCullough (1989), Camryn Grimes (2000); and 8 winners after age 13 but before age 20: Brian Bloom (1985), Martha Byrne (1987), Andrew Kavovit (1990), Heather Tom (1993), Jonathan Jackson (1995, 1998, 1999), Sarah Michelle Gellar (1995), Kimberly McCullough (1996), Justin Torkilsden (2001). So 10 out of 53 Younger Actor/Actress winners were kids/teens at the time of their wins. That leads me to think that the Younger Actor/Actress categories were added so the newcomers wouldn't overshadow the veterans.
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11 minutes ago, Alan said:
It was sad to see Gina's for the last time. That set was such a big part of Y&R for me growing up and the GCAC was a poor replacement. Were Gina and John an item at this time? My viewing was sporadic during this era.
Wasn't the Gina's set originally Pierre's Restaurant/The Allegro/Jonas' Restaurant? So it would have been over 30 years old at the time of the fire storyline. Maybe the set was retired due to age/budget. Once the Genoa City Athletic Club came on, we saw a lot less of the other 1980s/1990s restaurant sets: The Colonnade Room, The Embers, The Lodge, Top of the Tower.
I think it was 2000 or 2001 that a John/Gina pairing was being set up but nothing came of it from what I remember.
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1985 Daytime Emmy Awards. Y&R's first wins in the acting categories.
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Just now, Fevuh said:
I had stopped watching around this time because I had started working after college and didn't tape. I think the other day's episode was 1993 also and I'm watching a little bit today and have no idea who some of these people are. The main ones I know, but some of the other people I have no idea.
So far this week was 1991 (Monday), 2003 (Tuesday and Wednesday). Thursday is 2005, Friday is 2010.
Based on episode numbers on Global's schedule, next week is 1991 (Monday), 1999 (Tuesday), 2001 (Wednesday), 2006 (Thursday).
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@titan1978 I meant in the sense that both of them had their careers handed to them by their fathers. To Lauralee's credit, she didn't go off the rails after Bill Bell's passing the way Tori has since Aaron Spelling passed.
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Lauralee Bell is the daytime equivalent of Tori Spelling.
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Today's repeat had Usher singing one of his early hits, "My Way". He was only 19 in this episode and he had such a baby face. Amber was all thirsty fangirl when Usher serenaded her
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Updated for 2024.
Names in italics are those no longer with us.
Actors/Actresses with 10 or More Daytime Emmy Nominations (Years in bold are wins.)
Peter Bergman: Lead Actor 1983, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993-2001, 2002, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2013, 2014, 2017-2019, 2022, 2023
Susan Lucci: Lead Actress 1978, 1981-1993, 1995-1998, 1999, 2001, 2002
Heather Tom: Younger Actress 1993, 1994-1998, 1999, 2000; Supporting Actress 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2011; Lead Actress 2012, 2013, 2014, 2017, 2019, 2020
David Canary: Lead Actor 1985, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1990-1992, 1993, 1995-2000, 2001, 2008
Anthony Geary: Lead Actor 1981, 1982, 1983, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2012, 2015, 2016
Maura West: Supporting Actress 2001, 2002; Lead Actress 2004, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2015, 2016, 2018-2020
Michelle Stafford: Supporting Actress 1996, 1997; Lead Actress 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2023, 2024
Kim Zimmer: Lead Actress 1985, 1986, 1987, 1990, 1998, 1999, 2003-2005, 2006, 2007
Christian LeBlanc: Supporting Actor 1999, 2003, 2004; Lead Actor 2005, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2014-2016
Kristoff St. John: Supporting Actor 1990; Younger Actor 1991, 1992, 1993; Supporting Actor 1999, 2000, 2007, 2008, 2015; Lead Actor 2016, 2017
Nancy Lee Grahn: Supporting Actress 1989, 2000; Lead Actress 2003-2005; Supporting Actress 2011, 2012; Lead Actress 2017, 2018, 2021; Supporting Actress 2022
Finola Hughes: Lead Actress 1990, 1991, 2000, 2002; Supporting Actress 2015; Lead Actress 2016; Supporting Actress 2017; Lead Actress 2020, 2021, 2023, 2024
Bryton James: Younger Actor 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2013; Supporting Actor 2016, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2024
Jeanne Cooper: Lead Actress 1989-1992, 1999, 2000; Supporting Actress 2005; Lead Actress 2007, 2008, 2009
Susan Flannery: Lead Actress 1975, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2009, 2011, 2013
Maurice Benard: Lead Actor 1996; Supporting Actor 1997; Lead Actor 2003, 2004, 2006, 2011, 2012, 2019, 2021, 2023
Scott Clifton: Younger Actor 2004-2006, 2010, 2011; Supporting Actor 2013, 2014, 2015; Lead Actor 2017, 2024
Actors/Actresses with 5 or More Daytime Emmy Nominations but No Wins
James Mitchell: Lead Actor 1980-1985, 1989
Melissa Claire Egan: Supporting Actress 2009, 2011-2014; Lead Actress 2021, 2023
Susan Seaforth Hayes: Lead Actress 1975, 1976, 1978, 1979; Supporting Actress 2018, 2020
Bryan Buffington: Younger Actor 1990, 1991, 1993-1995
Joshua Morrow: Younger Actor 1996-2000
Beth Ehlers: Younger Actress 1992, 1993; Supporting Actress 1999, 2002; Lead Actress 2006
Bradford Anderson: Supporting Actor 2009, 2010, 2012-2014
Peggy McCay: Lead Actress 1986; Supporting Actress 1987; Lead Actress 2013, 2015; Supporting Actress 2016
Arianne Zuker: Supporting Actress 2010, 2013; Lead Actress 2014, 2020, 2022
Linsey Godfrey: Younger Actress 2014; Supporting Actress 2015, 2016, 2019, 2024
Actors/Actresses with 3 or More Daytime Emmy Wins
Anthony Geary: Lead Actor 1982, 1999, 2000, 2004, 2006, 2008, 2012, 2015
Justin Deas: Supporting Actor 1984, 1988, 1989, 1994; Lead Actor 1995, 1997
Erika Slezak: Lead Actress 1984, 1986, 1992, 1995, 1996, 2005
Heather Tom: Younger Actress 1993, 1999; Supporting Actress 2011; Lead Actress 2012, 2013, 2020
David Canary: Lead Actor 1986, 1988, 1989, 1993, 2001
Jonathan Jackson: Younger Actor 1995, 1998, 1999; Supporting Actor 2011, 2012
Susan Flannery: Lead Actress 1975, 2000, 2002, 2003
Kim Zimmer: Lead Actress 1985, 1987, 1990, 2006
Helen Gallagher: Lead Actress 1976, 1977, 1988
Sarah Brown: Younger Actress 1997, 1998; Supporting Actress 2000
Michael E. Knight: Younger Actor 1986, 1987; Supporting Actor 2001
Peter Bergman: Lead Actor 1991, 1992, 2002
Jennifer Finnigan: Younger Actress 2002-2004
Rick Hearst: Younger Actor 1991; Supporting Actor 2004, 2007
Jennifer Landon: Younger Actress 2006-2008
Christian LeBlanc: Lead Actor 2005, 2007, 2009
Julie Marie Berman: Younger Actress 2009, 2010; Supporting Actress 2013
Chandler Massey: Younger Actor 2012-2014
Billy Miller : Supporting Actor 2010, 2013; Lead Actor 2014
Maura West: Lead Actress 2007, 2010, 2015
Scott Clifton: Younger Actor 2011, Supporting Actor 2013, Lead Actor 2017
Gina Tognoni: Supporting Actress 2006, 2008; Lead Actress 2017
Maurice Benard: Lead Actor 2003, 2019, 2021
Jacqueline MacInnes Wood: Lead Actress 2019, 2021, 2023
Michelle Stafford: Supporting Actress 1997; Lead Actress 2004, 2024
Actors/Actresses with 3 or More Daytime Emmy Wins by Category
Lead Actor
Anthony Geary: 1982, 1999, 2000, 2004, 2006, 2008, 2012, 2015
David Canary: 1986, 1988, 1989, 1993, 2001
Peter Bergman: 1991, 1992, 2002
Christian LeBlanc: 2005, 2007, 2009
Maurice Benard: 2003, 2019, 2021
Lead Actress
Erika Slezak: 1984, 1986, 1992, 1995, 1996, 2005
Susan Flannery: 1975, 2000, 2002, 2003
Kim Zimmer: 1985, 1987, 1990, 2006
Helen Gallagher: 1976, 1977, 1988
Maura West: 2007, 2010, 2015
Heather Tom: 2012, 2013, 2020
Jacqueline MacInnes Wood: 2019, 2021, 2023
Supporting Actor
Justin Deas: 1984, 1988, 1989, 1994
Younger Actor
Jonathan Jackson: 1995, 1998, 1999
Chandler Massey: 2012-2014
Younger Actress
Jennifer Finnigan: 2002-2004
Jennifer Landon: 2006-2008
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On 5/20/2020 at 9:52 AM, Gray Bunny said:
Not sure if this falls under any relevancy other than comparing overall households versus black households, but this was the comparison chart SOD published in their Feb. 14th 1995 issue. The numbers reflect November of 1994:
Surprised B&B ranked so high in African-American households. Carryover viewers from Y&R maybe?
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5 hours ago, BoldRestless said:
Oh God now I'm worried Y&R will do a week with all MAB's sitcom stars.
Do not give CBS ideas :shudder
4 hours ago, YRfan23 said:the 1998 episode sounds promising although I could give two hoots about Usher....i wonder how much his residual check is worth??
I don't know, maybe a few hundred dollars. That's pocket change to someone that sold 25 million albums over their career
I love Usher's music, but he hasn't had a hit in years sadly.
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Well there was that period in 2006 where the B&B cast boasted the likes of Jack Wagner, Lorenzo Lamas, Antonio Sabato Jr., and Mario Lopez
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B&B to air classic episodes
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I'll be watching these for sure.