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Monday 3/25, back to reality! As far as Lily/Daniel/Heather while I’m glad to see Lily finally get to unleash some rage against Heather, the whole thing feels a tad underwhelming. Disappointed about “Daily 3.0” falling apart, but I get the notion with the aftermath the show wasn’t actually fully invested in them aside from nostalgic purposes and have become an afterthought. It’ll probably be a full month before we see these three again. I had thought Danny & Christine had already left town, so nice to see them having a romp before they actually do leave, and a nice nostalgic reunion in time for the show’s 51st anniversary tomorrow. However, that coffeehouse folk song that played over their love making scenes was embarrassingly bad…it sounded like a song that would’ve played in the background at Crimson Lights during the Latham or MAB era. Phyllis pulling the fire alarm was so childish and pathetic LOL. Today’s show proved how pointless Phyllis is anymore. I like the bond between Nikki, Claire, and Victoria, it’s actually some actual warmth feeing we haven’t seen with Newmans in like two decades. The show’s ending with the Jordan reveal should have been last Wednesday’s cliffhanger.

Have to greatly disagree, while I agree KMH was never the strongest and I became dismayed by Emily as a character overall, I actually thought those scenes were rather harrowing and found KMH to be good in those scenes as well for initial part where Emily went crazy with stealing Diego’s body. What I found laughable and disgusting was the show juxtaposed the office rape scenes with Mark and Connor having treehouse sex, yuck! ATWT’s worst acted and written rape story came a few years later with Jack/Julia. Hadn’t seen mentioned yet, but I vividly recall Josh Morrow giving the worst performance as Nick of his life at Sage’s funeral. He sounded like Chewbacca the way he kept moaning. 🙄

Gotcha that makes sense about Tribes. I barely remember it but definitely for better or worse remember Swan’s Crossing all too well lol. Some Fox stations aired 90210 reruns in syndication at like 5PM in the mid-90s but nothing network wide. But no I don’t recall anything else on Fox in the 90s except for Fox After Breakfast circa 1996-97 which had actual started on FX before moving to Fox. I think Fox aired it nationally in a 9AM slot.

Thank you as always @JAS0N47! Appreciate the info on the DuMont shows as well. I know Fox tried to do Tribes in 1990, but that was it outside of Fox kids programming blocks that were usually 7AM-8PM and 3PM-5PM that was about it, and the New World affiliates that Fox acquired that were previous Big 3 affiliates typically pre-empted those blocks. I recall in the mid-00’s Fox did try to push a daytime talk called Mike and Juliet on its stations but the show flopped. The WB/CW also did a Daytime block in the late 00’s/early ‘10’s but it wasn’t a big deal as some had hoped. When the WB launched “Daytime WB” all the block consisted of was of ER, Reba, and What I Like About You reruns. Eventually they nabbed Tyra Banks, but Tyra lost her syndicated success with the move to being exclusive on the CW and thus only lasted one season. Later on The CW aired a talk show featuring the controversial conservative Bill Cunningham for a years in the block before it finally folded.

Lord haha it was really bad. I also hated how that show wasted Amelia Marshall. Van Johnson if I recall had a background of acting in those cheesy action shows of the mid-late 90s that were both syndicated but ended up airing on USA as well (usually starring Lorenzo Lamas) before making the leap to daytime on Y&R, where basically he was a one note villain who had a goon to do his dirty work. Indeed I hated it too, and sadly Neil never recovered from that storyline nor was ever given the time too unfortunately. As gross as the story was that Neil and Devon had share a second woman, Neil’s history of cheating himself it didn’t make sense for him to become some evil sadistic moral self-righteous villain either. I remember Neil being nasty/condescending to Lily about her problems with Cane and Joe around the same time and it just felt so wrong for Neil to act that way. Another ridiculous story…on top the whole all the show’s leading ladies dumping JT into a shallow grave like it was a 1996 Melrose Place episode 😵‍💫

@YRfan23 Out of all the worst absurd Passions twists and turns, wasn’t the worst one was the 5-year long mystery of what was in TC’s shed? Boy did JER really drop the ball far on that one, and he eventually wrote out TC on a whimper.

And yikes, today’s 3/20 episode was just another one of those bonkers dream/fantasy episodes that JG loves to throw at us every other month. I mean it okay there have been worse dream episodes before, and I liked the Cassie inclusion but also had some saccharine weirdness to it plus this to be the big March Madness “cliffhanger”, ummmm 😴😴😴 It really is. And funny, that last part you wrote is exactly why I nicknamed Bradley Bell “Thudley” years ago. Perhaps I need to start calling JG “Thudley II” @YRfan23? 😂

B&B has a weird history because of its ups and downs. 1987-93 is excellent of course because of Bill Sr was in charge, with some obvious missteps here and there which is fine because Bell Sr also gave us two of his finest creations, Sally Spectra and Macy something unique to B&B. 1994-96 was just bad because Thudley was inexperienced, and we got weird stories like the statutory rape stories with Dylan & Jessica, that Jasmine girl falling down the Spectra elevator shaft, Michael Lai, Brooke going inexplicably insane, and a cake fight between Rick Jr and CJ etc. There was an amazing summer 1997-early 1999 renaissance of B&B, but it fell apart again. 2000-2005 is pretty much B&B’s silver age and Thudley kept that period fairly consistent minus some mistakes and yet ever since then, with Taylor coming back the show has been in some sort of freefall.

Nah I doubt Kyle is going to get thrown at Summer again, I predict he’ll end up sleeping with Claire/Eve, Summer blow a gasket for like 90 seconds and then everything be okay and kumbaya because that’s how JG rolls 🙈🤣😵‍💫🙃🙄 And yes, ED has been giving off 90’s Kristen vibes off the walls lately and I’m here for it, but JG’s writing can’t keep up with it. As for CKLily, honestly what’s left for her to do at this point beside go the way of Elena? Yikes. As I mentioned above a lot of reckless ego choices CK made way back keep haunting her to no end and lately comes back with a vengeance. Lord what a mess!!! I mentioned all the other times Ashley was seen having a break from reality like learning John wasn’t her bio dad, the abortion, learning bout Blade/Rick, baby Robert’s death, and Adam’s gaslighting but this is obnoxiously bogus ugh.

Haha I’ve done it with B&B before along with Days…I have that emotional connection to Y&R I did to GL and ATWT but B&B and Days have been more dispensable to my surprise. The first time I ever stopped watching B&B was in 2007 with Brooke’s rape, the 2nd was the Beth’s drowning, and the 3rd was Ally’s death. I should have stopped wayyy earlier…..

Haha there was plenty of SON posters who used that exact term as well, and in addition to DC using it I clearly remember both Nelson Branco and Daniel Coleridge also used disparaging terms towards TS as well. Lachlan came out after Y&R? LOL could’ve sworn he was out beforehand… His Kyle came off as too goofy and flamboyant. On the flip side his Dynasty 2.0 stint started off very strong but ended on a whimper, and Lachlan hasn’t done much for me on Station 19 either. A little over a year after Colleen’s death, Y&R would go ahead and give us the absolute WORST story in Y&R history and a contender for one of daytime history’s worst stories ever, one that would stretch a whole freaking year from December 2010-November 2011…… Oh definitely the Kevin-Gloria happy hour was too much for the show, and Latham and her cronies made too many mistakes that proved so detrimental and even worse whenever someone tired to fix it. I like to Chance/Summer but because CF and AL are the most competent recast actors Y&R so the show has to restrain and restrict any 😂🤣….that said I still stand with my idea of Chance with his PI business and Summer as his Moonlighting partner/His Girl Friday. And yeah, Giggly Heffa is a black hole… All that needed to be fair, agree 100%! Also, the whole Davetta Sherwood thing still boggles my mind, as does CK whole “Please pray for Davetta!”, then a few years later the whole thing about CK goes on recurring, and ends up going to an audition for her role because the show was looking to recast and CK had a bad agent…like what in the hell really was going on? 🙈 I always feel like CK has really humbled herself over the years because the show has trashed Lily so much over the years and she realized she got herself into the Cane hole she’s never been able to recover from her earlier reckless ego either.

I’ve pretty much have stopped watching B&B as well and have stopped bothering reading about recaps and spoilers. Let me know when there’s an improvement because for right now I’m taking a break from this mess.

Anything that includes show wrecking continuity really: ATWT: Either the mystery owner of the Falcon Club being James Stenbeck or “What did you do to my baby boy! I mean girl! Oh never mind I was just gaslighting you…” GL: Maryanne Carruthers Y&R: Jill is not a biological Foster x2 twists, Phillip III back from the dead and gay Also any character damaging twists, like Y&R’s Neil holding a comatose Hilary hostage. Both B&B and Days have had more terrible twists I don’t care to list because it would take too long 😂

Currently? B&B: JMW, KKL Y&R: ED, ZS, SW, MTS, AL, and yes both EB and PB still have it as well

That dungeon set looks like it’s straight out of a 1988 Doctor Who episode…

In a perfect world, characters Billy, Mac, JT, Colleen, Daniel, Lily, Cassie, Raul, Brittany, Adam, Heather, Devon etc. would have lead Y&R throughout the 2010s as Y&R’s 4th generation. Unfortunately folks like Smith, Latham, and MAB & Co. made some of the most bone headed and reckless decisions ever with these characters. Brad and Colleen could have easily moved away, open the door for return visits. No reason to have killed them off. So instead we ended up having to watch characters like Jack, Nick, Phyllis etc play out the same old stories even though they were well way past their prime. I was fine with AL as Colleen and I had liked that story with her college professor, Adrian as well. I was indifferent on TS although her accent was a glaring issue. I know many people here at the time hated her and rooted for Colleen’s death when they heard about it, but then Colleen’s drowning was such a downer and also occurred the same day GL aired its final episode. TS had success on Home & Away before Y&R and had huge success after Y&R Pretty Little Liars, clearly the show was the problem. Edit: After I thought about it one of the biggest flaws in writing AL’s Colleen faced was the show’s decision to portray her in a more antagonistic role for months towards the Fisher clan during a time when the show was become the Kevin/Gloria happy hour.

@Khan I was wrong, our next big story looks to be finding a new nanny for Harrison! My purely uneducated speculative guess is Summer is going to end up being resentful/distrustful of newfound cuz Eve/Claire once she learns the whole story while Kyle ends up sleeping with Claire. Speaking of Harrison, did JG have a bad childhood? Both Harrison and Connor appeared today as quiet, very moody, and reserved kids. It was awkward to watch. Made me actually yearn of all those annoying kids on GL and ATWT back in the late 90s.

Good question lol. Despite her cool and controlled nature, we’ve seen Ashley go bonkers over trauma before ie learning John wasn’t her bio dad, the abortion, learning about Blade/Rick, the death of baby Robert, gaslighted by Adam etc. but this time it’s because she and Tucker broke up after marrying…? Of course mental illness runs in the Abbott family, and everyone in the family has experienced some type of psychotic break before. Billy just had his own nonsensical DID a few years back lol.

Ah yes, we could easily get RC to write that Leo announces he’s going to solve the mystery of Don Craig’s disappearance by visiting Donna Craig in the real life Genoa City, Wisconsin, only get brutally bludgeoned to death upon arrival when TEB makes a cameo reprise of Donna 🤣

Only thing left to add is that it was a head-on collision with Kevin, who was actually responsible for the crash via driving in the wrong lane but he’s also died in the collision 😁

I forgot the part where Summer, Noah, and Faith team up with Mariah & Tessa to throw their own celebration of life party for Nick at Crimson Lights 😂

A good Rey Rosales style car crash would suffice, and for some unknown reason Chelsea was in the passenger seat and she’s dead as well. The Newmans are devastated. Victor thinks Chelsea was to blame for the wreck, Adam and Sally yell at each other, Nikki almost drinks, and Victoria has grief sex with Cole. An offscreen funeral is held; afterwards Sharon and the Newmans discuss how wonderful the service was yet how odd that Nick requested to be buried next to Sage. Apparently he never changed his will. This causes Phyllis to feel betrayed. Chloe tearfully tells Billy Nick and Chelsea were having a secret affair. Three weeks later Abby learns from Devon about Nick’s death and feels bad she hadn’t reached out as she didn’t know he had passed.

Good question…last I knew she appeared was in early Feb when she met with Devon and Nate about Cassidy First and maybe put in an appearance to chime in about OCD..??(I fast forwarded through just about all of that story. I don’t know, it’s obvious JG is clueless about what to do about Sharon. For awhile there in both 2022 and last year it seemed like a Shick reunion was planned but I’m guessing either Morrow and/or Case (or both) asked to nix it, maybe. 2024 is the 30th anniversary of Nick and Sharon so I’ll assume at some point the show will have special episodes surrounding them. I’ll just say JM’s Nick gets way too much airtime even in the supporting role he has lately, and now Nick is sniffing around Phyllis again? Yuck! 🤢

Wow RIP, and my heart goes out to Crystal as well. I don’t know what Crystal has been up to either. Here’s Robyn as one of the special guest stars in an episode of Win, Lose, or Draw! In 1989:

The next “big story” is probably going to be about Sharon having an offscreen hoarding problem with Tessa, Mariah, Adam, Nick, Sally and Chelsea staging an an offscreen intervention. 🤣🤣