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I can imagine Mary might have ended up the same more or less or possibly gone the way of Jennifer Brooks. As for Liz, all I can say is Katherine Chancellor. Missy Palmer probably could have been his Laura Horton.

I'm wondering how AW would have turned out if Bell had written the show for the long haul--can't you see Alice and Pat getting entangled with Lance and Lucas Prentiss while Mac watches Rachel stripping? With people comparing AMC's finale to past finales, I'd thought I'd share this:

How was Stephen Schnetzer in the role of Steven Olson? Why has the show never brought the character back, especially being Hope's brother? Same goes for her other brother Douglas. What about Tammy Taylor as Hope, the teenage/young adult actress playing her before Alfonso? It saddens me there's a whole slew of Hortons (Steven, David, Scott, Sandy for starters) that were used incorrectly and then discarded and forgotten about except in the ornaments on the Horton tree.

I believe that's Beverly Penberthy herself! Barry was much much older by that point. It's a shame ATWT didn't find a way to keep such an underrated daytime legend around. Lindsay Frost's career never took off did it? Funny just tonight I was watching a Seinfeld rerun tonight of when George and Jerry visit NBC to propose the Jerry show and meet Susan for the first time they walked past two giant promotional posters, one for Blossom and the other for Frost's(with Robert Englund) short-lived series Nightmare Cafe. This article and photos below appeared in the 11/24/98 issue of Soap News is from 1998 at a St. Jude's Benefit that ATWT actively participated in: I wonder how Lucy Johnson felt if she read that about DeFreitas....

Thanks! Sorry to have missed it when it was first posted, but I wonder why they didn't try to bring back Lindsay Frost as Betsy for Davids funeral.

I'm absolutely loving those 1993 eps they're a trip down memory lane! Are there any clips available of Beverly Penberthy playing Kirk's lover Adelaide? Does anyone know if Betsy Stewart appeared at all in 1991 played by a Tracy Sallons?

What did you guys think of Dinah in the late 80s? This was shortly before I even started watching GL and I've only seen clips and read old synopses. The traveling circus family sounds odd. Were Ross and Vanessa's histories retconned for this or had it always been known they shared a past together? Who was better, Jennifer Gatti(infamous for her later Y&R role) or Paige Turco(famous for playing April O'Neil)?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV8zXGGlC4U&feature=related Josh and Harley were fun. I've always wondered why the show never revisited Josh and Harley although I think they made Harley slightly crazy when they had Harley burn Reva's clothes but then again just about every woman lost their sanity over Josh didn't they?

How on earth did Reva's true identity slip completely past Vanessa when others were calling her Reva almost right in front of her? I love early Reva Its pretty clear to me why she got on fast there in 1983/84 although obviously becoming the entire show by 1986 was a too much Funny about that Reva being escorted by Mike and being introduced to Ed. I remember in a 2004 interview SOD did with Peter Simon he wished that Ed and Reva would have hooked up at some point. Interesting as we could have seen Reva Bauer but I can't see a Ed/Reva pairing happening. The funny thing about Reva's intro in November 1983 is she was talked about for a good week or two before she finally appeared. I've seen the 83 Thanksgiving episode Billy and Mindy talk about Reva, HB making Reva jokes and how Reva couldn't handle Mindy and how Alan was interested in bringing Reva to town and meeting her, all before she actually even appeared.

I haven't seen Scott lately but at least he finally let Melissa off her leash as she's been back on Days now for a year. I have to wonder where at on today's Y&R characters like Ryan and Cole would fit in. Actually I'd love it if Cole came back and got involved with Victoria again it would give her someone her own age or so to interact with and be would refreshing instead of her moping over Billy. I wonder what J. Eddie Peck is up to these days anyways.

Gotta love the Dynasty-style photo on TV Guide as well as Diamont on the cover of Playgirl

I don't know if these NBC era ads had been posted yet but the first one is from November 1985, the other four are from June 1986:

Thanks guys, my dream CBS schedule would have to be: 12:30-Y&R(Bell was able to keep his show at 30 min quite successfully) 1:00 SFT 2:00 ATWT 3:00 GL Of course the 1981-82 schedule works as well for me, why the heck the idiots at both CBS(who wanted something more "glamorous") and P&G(who wanted to keep SFT at 12:30) didn't stick with it is beyond me.

When it is a choice between coffee with Nancy or Bert I would prefer to coffee with Bert mainly due to it probably being extra extra strong with Bill and Ed around

This bio for Charita Bauer appeared in Soap News 11/17/99:

If SFT had stayed on the air and on CBS and had lasted into the 90s what do you guys think the show would have been like?

Does anyone remember how Seth and Angel were written out?

What did everyone think of Rose D'Angelo? How did you like Byrne as Rose? The silly notion of forgetting you gave birth to a child aside, I did like her at least until she became too grating/annoying there in '03. I was really satisfied with the murder mystery surrounding her death. I'm sorry McCouch's Dusty and Lily never actually went all the way because I thought the two shared great chemistry. More interesting than what Holden and Lily had become by the early 2000s. I was for sure after Rose's death a hook-up was inevitable.

I don't think I didn't paid attention enough to the Holden/Iva custody stuff to care LOL although I thought it was odd Aaron bounced to everyone. I've always been a Lily fan and didn't find her dull until the late '90s or so with her umpteenth kidnapping. Looking back they really needed to give her more of an edge I've always been fascinated by Connor chastising Lily so much it always put her on the defensive. Mike and Rosanna were indeed boring and it was a cliched story with Alexander's interference. Not to mention all those cheesy names they gave to cars made by Cabot Motors in an attempt to make them sound like real car brands ie Cabot Mountaineer.

Thanks for sharing/finding those clips from the 1992-1995 period. Even though Marland had passed away in the middle of all this, I enjoyed 1993-1995 so much. I loved the Damien/Lily/Holden triangle, Janice's descent and her relationship to Andy, Julie's wicked children coming to town even though I hated Pete, Hans the terrorist and Lily's kidnapping, Barbara faking her stalking then being stalked for real, Evan and Barbara, Cal and Connor, Linc's murder mystery, Royce's descent etc. Not to mention I believe ratings were still quite good throughout 1994 unlike GL which took quite a tumble that year mainly due it becoming progressively worse.

Thank you so much Carl for finding/sharing that link to Reva being mowed down, I had always understood it to be a second suicide attempt but clearly it is not, more of Reva wandering around disoriented with Josh in the area(for the wedding perhaps?) with that chance of fate meeting. That is a gorgeous setting, made even better by yes the music and Reva's gorgeous over the top dress. Regarding Kyle I understand he didn't die but was shown to be in a coma, one from which I don't believe he ever woke up from. It would have been very interesting if someone in the 90s had written Kyle back into town, seeing he was Ben's bio father as well. Actually 1995 would have been perfect, imagine an amnesiac Reva living happily by a recovered Kyle who was keeping her a secret. I'm confused over a storyline involving Alex's knowledge of Marah's true paternity. Apparently Alex told H.B. the truth about Marah's paternity and he stood by her but broke off their engagement due to being appalled at her power plays at Spaulding. This happened in the spring of '88, a year before Reva learned the truth in the spring of '89. Why didn't H.B. tell anyone else about Marah being Josh's daughter, and thus his granddaughter? Or did she even tell him? Apparently after he broke things off he immediately left town. Writers strike inconsistency perhaps? Even though it was bad of Alex, if anyone seen the 1989 episode where Alex is on her death's door and is shown whatt life were to be like if she dies Alex is quite visibly upset over Alan's abusing Reva and the fact Josh still doesn't know and is forbidden from even seeing Marah and Reva.

A rather sad and bleak ad for Christmas isn't it? I've heard Reva's rebirth was quite good and compelling to watch but the Cain part of the story was a complete farce. I'm more interested in Reva's 2nd suicide attempt where she runs into traffic from her running from her wedding to Kyle and was saved by Josh but thought it was a dream as Josh was no where to be found afterward.

After the Derek/Suzanne story ended Jill and Katherine did have separate stories for a couple years there that never intersected. Katherine got stuck on the island with Felipe, had Cash Cashman and then her thing I mentioned with Alison's husband while as I mentioned Jill fell head over heels for Andy. Pretty much the same way Jill and Katherine interacted there the mid-90s I would imagine. And of course, DeeeDee is right about vets being sporadic today.

Found them! I find it interesting in the second vid when John goes completely off on Katherine:

Wasn't Evans in the role when Patty shot Jack or am I mistaken? I've never seen any of Evans' OLTL work but I do know of her OTT antics on Passions and B&B. I really enjoyed her but I don't know how dramatic of an actress she can be. Why do you guys think the Williams family didn't make it like the Abbotts did? What was Steve Williams like?