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4 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

With Heather and his granddaughter on the canvas it would be great to see a recast Paul in Genoa City.

What is Paul Satterfield up to these days?

 

After his character on OLTL ate up the show, I have zero interest in him

Really enjoyed the Chad and Julie scenes today. Super well done.

EJ really could put a stop to all of this so it makes him look like an idiot to not. Ava’s also a moron for not using her connections to kill Clyde either. Hell if Stefan told Chad, I’m sure they could work together and get Clyde offed. Really everyone looks like an idiot for letting Clyde have this much power from prison.

1 minute ago, Toups said:

Casting news belongs in the Spoiler Forum. 

 

I noticed the scenes have been longer lately, like the Wendy/Melinda scene last week.  But today there was a 5 minute scene with Chad/Julie, and again it was just two characters talking.  Soaps need to have more long scenes like this more often. 

Ooo that has to be why I enjoyed it so much!

1 hour ago, carolineg said:

Ugh...I hate myself for typing this, but I think LW is doing great.  She's really doing a realistic job.  I would go against SJB/TB appearing because it's gimmicky.  I didn't like the 3 Carly appearance years ago, so I could be off on this.

I’ve never been a Laura Carly fan but she really is doing great but my complaint stands with the editing on this show. Everytime you started to feel something they cut to something else immediately. Even DAYS will actually let emotional stuff have some time.

Watching today’s episode and man this show does not let any of the emotional stuff breathe at all. I’m really trying to give it a chance but the immediate cuts during the Carly scenes when Laura is really giving it her all, gosh it totally kills this.

Watching the 2003 episode where Kevin has Colleen in the freezer and sets Gina’s on fire is wild. Crazy how the show forcibly redeemed him. Seems like a character that should have zero staying power. And tbh most of the time Kevin was around when I got into Y&R I didn’t care for him.

Interesting seeing Michael and Lauren before they became each others endgame on the show.

The music is still so good at this time.

There were SO many extras, I loved it.

Nikki vs Sharon will always be entertaining to me. 

I think I like this longer hair on SW’s Diane.

What in the world was going on with Ashley?!

I actually liked the Harris character

I never looked at the top shows column on Peacock before but today Days is number 2

On 12/28/2023 at 10:40 PM, DaytimeFan said:

I fear for Lauren Koslow on recurring. 2 episodes in December. 1 of which was for Christmas, where her absence would have been glaring. 

I wonder if the exit of AA might be helpful for her in the long run?

That was pretty troubling to me as well as a huge Koslow/Kate fan.

Justin Hartley’s Adam was nothing like Michael Muhney’s or really any of the other Adams tbh. He was genuinely a nice guy and didn’t do any of the plotting and scheming that every other portrayer has. He didn’t come off as a sociopath.

Guys SLC just had one of the best finales I’ve ever seen on Housewives and a top episode in the entire housewives franchise. Go out of your way to watch this one. 

On 1/1/2024 at 10:37 AM, 1974mdp said:

On Y&R, put a ban on using these words in a script:

1. merger

2. takeover

3. CEO

4. COO

What the hell will everyone talk about then?!

As someone who was last watching GH regularly back when Stafford was Nina, I have a few questions. 
 

Why is this SEC thing such a big deal? Did Nina get Drew sent to prison or something? 
Also how the hell did Drew end up with Carly of all people. When she and Sonny found out he wasn’t Jason they dropped him like a bad habit and he seemed to be happy living life away from them with Sam.

When did Sonny and Carly break up again for the 1000th time? I know Nina kept his old identity from him a few years ago so I’m confused how they ended up an official couple.

55 minutes ago, AbcNbc247 said:

I agree, she’s seemed more motherly lately. Still can’t really see her as Theresa though.

In those scenes with Alex, it’s almost like a completely different character.

I finally liked her in the new role. It’s still hard not to just see Gwen, but I do think she’s getting better which makes sense as she’s more comfortable in the role and further away from playing Gwen.

I never knew how harsh Victor was with Nikki during one of the past alcoholism stories. Braeden was almost scary in his intensity of that flashback. It also shows how much more he used to enunciate.

Nice of the Newmans to tell Adam what happened but I do believe Abby still has no idea any of this happened or that she has a niece.

Tuned into my first episode of GH in years and was pleasantly surprised to see Lindsay Hartley today. 

4 minutes ago, Errol said:

Didn't know where to post this, but I found this effing hilarious:

https://people.com/lauralee-bell-jump-scares-young-restless-castmates-video-8421035

This writer is clearly a Phyllis fan

They really have been putting Nicole through the wringer. Friday and Monday were genuinely great episodes of Days.

Is today the first time Marlena has mentioned Maggie by name in years? I remember when I first started watching Days they were BFF.

On 12/29/2023 at 7:23 PM, NothinButAttitude said:

Yaaasss, @Cat! I knew we'd see eye to eye when it came to Miami. 

We truly need some of y'all on here to start watching Miami. It is the one show in the entire franchise that possesses heart at its core. I think even though the women might not like each other at times, they know what is at stake (a cancellation notice). They've been there and don't want to experience it again. 

But yes, put the show back on Peacock. It was Peacock's most watched show, and they took good care of Miami. 

I absolutely adore Miami but I have to say SLC this year was zero filler. It’s been balls to the wall episode after episode. 

I really do think Trevor and Eileen have amazing chemistry together. I wish they had been a way to actually make Tucker and Ashley viable but he was literally still sleeping with Audra whenever he was bored.  I can’t decide if Tucker angrily blacked out so he doesn’t remember what happened in Paris or if he’s faking,

I could be down for Tucker and Phyllis. Both of them actually should be dating other town pariahs.

Lord Daniel has a bit too much in common with his papa. Though I do like the Heather/Daniel/Lily triangle. He really fell right back into Heather as soon as Lily had a crisis. 

The most recent UGT RHONY was easily the best one this season. It was just such a fun light breezy episode with amazing flashbacks for the scavenger hunt. Again I’m reminded by the total lack of humor or fun on nuRHONY.

15 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

Ugh! Greg Rikkart!! Ugh!!

How in the hell is Greg Rikkart in the opening when he's only on like 3 times a year?

It’s funny Leo has made me dislike the character of Kevin even more than I already disliked Kevin. So having to see both Kevin and Leo today was just like ughhhhh. Maybe one day Rikkart will play a character I can enjoy

6 hours ago, Gray Bunny said:

Alrighty folks, let's get this Best & Worst of the Housewives 2023 party started!

As usual, some of the specifics of the first half of the year are blurry, so the more current shows are fresh in my mind. I'm sure I'll add and subtract as we go along   Also to note for my own list:  I do not watch Miami or Dubai.  My advance apologies if I went overboard on the categories this year. I was inspired by browsing through an old Best & Worst Digest of '96... (i.e. Best Shows: Y&R/DAYS/GH;  Most Disappointing Show: ATWT;  Worst Story: Roger's Gaslighting on GL;  Best Story: GH's Cassadine saga, etc... Good times). 

 

BEST RETURN: Tamra Judge, RHOC. From the moment she reclaimed her orange on Watch What Happens Live, we knew we were in for something good. And boy, did she deliver. Right out of the gate, she caused drama with old friends, made new enemies, and even managed to alienate the newbie that she brought on to the show! Yes, I will admit she went a tad overboard and could’ve held some of her cards for the next season, but she wanted everyone to remember why she makes for good reality TV. Welcome back Tamra [and welcome back Eddie, one of the finest Househusbands].

WORST RETURN: Kelly Bensimon, RHUGT: RHONY Legacy. If Kelly was hoping to repair her image and show the world she’s not “CRAZY KELLY,” she fell flat on that conquest. A mere three episodes in, and she has already shown us she has not changed one bit from her days of Scary Island, Chef. Vs. Cook, I’m Up Here / You’re Down Here, You Called Me Madonna, and other aloof, unintelligible, and contradictory remarks that make her so frustrating to watch.

BEST FRIEND-OF RETURN: Mary Cosby, RHOSLC.  She’s mean, she’s judgmental, she doesn’t want to participate in anything. Yet, she’s here and we’re here for it. Oh sure, not everyone is going to agree with me on this one, but her outspokenness is like listening to a 90-year-old woman with no filter, not giving a damn who she insults. It made for outrageous reality TV, which is what this franchise needed for the first half of the season.

BEST EXIT: Lisa Rinna, RHOBH. She’s gone and that’s what matters. On pause, on rest, temporarily fired, who cares what the spin may be. She’s out, which is what RHOBH needed to continue.

BEST NEWCOMER, Part I: Monica Garcia, RHOSLC. Without seeing the finale or reunion, she has thus far been a welcome addition to the Beehive State. Perhaps she is graded on a curve because RHOSLC was in desperate need of new blood and new alliances. Whatever the case may be, she has opened up more so than the majority of her cast members have given us in four years.

BEST NEWCOMER, Part II: Jennifer Pedranti, RHOC. OC has had trouble finding solid newcomers in recent years, so when Jennifer Pedranti was brought in as a friend of Tamra’s my initial thought was:  Another busty blonde named Jen; another one season wonder.  How delightful to see I was wrong. Jennifer has been a welcome addition to the cast and will hopefully forge new friendships with other cast members next season since her “friend” Tamra treated her like trailer trash (how ironic).

WORST NEWCOMER: Sai De Silva, RHONY.  When the OG of the original cast says you’re a dud, you’re a dud. I can see Bravo going either way: give her another year to try to endear herself to the audience, or Katie Rost her ass and bring in someone fabulous to replace her.

BEST TREND, Part I: Old Housewife, New City. (Taylor Armstrong, from BH to OC). We’ve seen cast crossovers in the past, but never in this capacity. From the moment we were re-introduced to our favorite girl from Oklahoma, she looked like she belonged in Orange County all along. She fit the show and the show fit her, so it is a shame to hear she will not be back next season. Our loss. However, let’s hope the door is not closed on potentially bringing back old faces in new territories. [How about a more permanent stay for Cynthia Bailey on RHOBH…?]  

BEST TREND, Part II: Guest Appearances.  We’ve seen many former housewives return at party functions all the time. But a guest appearance from a former Wife is extra delicious when it actually drives story. Charrisse’s return to the Potomac fold reignited an old feud between her and Karen Huger. Denise Richards popping back in on RHOBH has caused the old, ugly nasty demeanor of Erika Jayne to resurface. And the OG of them all, Vicki Gunvalson, returned to RHOC to reunite the Tres Amigas, for better or worse, and added layers of laughter and drama during the cast trip. [Plus, who doesn’t love the side comments of Camille Grammer and the morally corrupt Faye Resnick at dinner?]

WORST TREND, Part I: Producer Interference. Housewives have become improvisational soap operas. Set up the time, place, characters, and bullet point topics to discuss and GO!  From endless desperate attempts to recreate dinner parties from hell, to awkward conversations that real friends would never discuss in front of other people, the “realness” of Real Housewives has been sorely lacking for nearly a decade, with no signs of reverting back to the more simple days of Kim and Nene getting dressed for a party in a parking lot, or having on-the-fly talking head shots on a city sidewalk.

WORST TREND, PART II: Previews of Clips that Don’t Make It On Air.  You’re flat out lying to the audience with these bait and switch promo tactics. Show it or stop it.

WORST TREND, PART III: Not airing the opening themes. It is the most iconic aspect of the Housewives brand. Why keep it out of so many episodes?

MOST CRINGEWORTHY MOMENT: Drew Sidora singing to Ralph at the RHOA Reunion.  Drew and Ralph’s crumbling marriage was the frontburner story in the second half of the season, filled with rumors of cheating on both sides. Despite their impending divorce and whispers of Drew being with another woman, Ralph appeared at the reunion and Drew sang… directly to him… on camera… with everyone else watching.  Iconic. 

BEST NEW CATCHPHRASE: "Name 'em!" by Sutton Stracke, RHOBH.  An instant new Housewives classic meme. 

BEST FEUD: Heather vs. Everyone, RHOC.  The gang up on Heather Dubrow was unnecessary, yet the fabulous ice queen of the OC paid them dust every single time. Heather’s life, her solid marriage, her real estate porn, etc. automatically makes her a winner against the jealous “peasant” castmates. On the finale episode, Tamra was looking to create a moment, yet Heather shot her down flawlessly. It’s a pleasant surprise to hear Heather is returning next season, because she’d be a shoo-in as the next Wife to jump to another series (RHOBH). I can’t wait to see how she handles the heifers next year.

WORST FEUD: Teresa Guidice vs. Melissa Gorga, RHONJ. This has been exhausted to point that nobody’s a winner, including us viewers. Clearly, these family members hate one another. Hate. It’s no longer trainwreck TV. It’s just a cringy mess with no good outcome. I am legit surprised the entire cast is returning for 2024.  Runners up: Margaret vs. Jennifer, RHONJ. Same reason. Enough is enough.

BEST ALLIANCE: Garcelle and Sutton’s friendship, RHOBH. Rarely do we see a friendship where they truly have each other’s backs, even when one person is wrong, but these two are thick as thieves and will always support one another.  

WORST ALLIANCES: The cliques of Real Housewives of Potomac. This show is slipping into toxic territory. There is a clear line in the sand of who likes who and who wants the other one gone. Much like old-school RHONY where everyone is strategizing to ice out the outsider, this is another game where we the audience end up the losers.

BEST QUEEN OF THEIR CITY: Karen “Grande Dame” Huger, RHOP. The Grande Dame knows her role of the show, which is currently to be the bridge and peacemaker amongst the fighting, petty arguments, and all out hatred. Still, in the midst of being that proverbial fence, her humor and essence brings lightness and fun to a show that has lost some of its luster.  

BEST QUEEN OF THE FORMER OG’s: Luann de Lesseps, RHONY.  Sure, the original RHONY is likely to never return as we knew it, but we just can’t count out the Countess. Whether she’s reappearing on an Ultimate Girls Trip or being spun off to Crappie Lake, there’s always a home for Luann on Bravo in some capacity. Here’s to hoping she and Sonja get a second season of their Simple Life-like series.

BEST SHOW: Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.  Good or bad, they know who they are, and they own it… unless they’re at risk of getting booted off the show (Hi Dorit; Hi Erika). Just when we think they’re down, they come back swinging. Real drama in their lives (Hi Kyle & Mauricio!) always makes for excellent reality television, versus manufactured petty drama about something stupid like cheese. Bravo wisely cut their losses with their most toxic cast member (Rinna), got rid of some dead weight (Diana… who?), and truly lucked out when the messy Mo & Kyle separation made the headlines.

MOST IMPROVED SHOW: Real Housewives of Orange County. After some truly lackluster seasons, it felt like old home week with the return of Tamra Judge in the fold, immediately causing mayhem after mayhem, revitalizing the original Housewives show that started it all. Everyone stepped their game up this season, from Heather to Shannon, to perennial underdogs Gina and Emily. We even got another new Jen (Pedranti), who has legs to last another season.

MOST TOXIC SHOW: Real Housewives of New Jersey.  Guidice vs. Gorga; Margaret vs. Jennifer; newbies getting ugly right off the bat… With an endless family feud that has sunken to the point of no return, it’s hard to imagine they have filmed yet another season with the current cast intact. Surely, 2024 will be its final year showcasing them all. Right? Please say yes, Bravo.

MOST DISAPPOINTING SHOW: Real Housewives of Atlanta.  Once upon a time, RHOA was the bread and butter of Bravo, breaking Nielsen records left and right. Nowadays, it is a shell of its former self.  While we enjoy seeing familiar faces like Kandi, Kenya, and Sheree, nearly everything fell flat this year. The ensemble cast does not gel together as a cohesive group of friends, and newer faces like Drew and Sanya just aren’t enticing viewers to tune in. A major overhaul is expected and much needed. Could a much-missed blast from the past being returning to snatch her peach back…? Bloop!

 

I actually agree with all of your picks except I would say RHOSLC has had the best season of any cast this year.

2 minutes ago, Liberty City said:

Budget; need some money? Fire a cast member for three-to-six months, then bring them back. Nadia Bjorlin was already off the cast so someone else had to go.

It’s so funny you mentioned Nadia, I was just thinking that I was missing Chloe. Especially with everything Nicole has going on and Holly’s grown up.

Tucker screaming about how he’s trying to show he’s a changed man while he’s literally done nothing but scheme the ENTIRE time he’s been back. Even Devon listing it all out to him didn’t seem to make it click

I got whiplash with how quickly Danny forgot Cricket.

Kyle turning the tables on Audra was unexpected and I actually didn’t see it coming. Seeing her vulnerable was a definite welcome change.

28 minutes ago, Paul Raven said:

If we saw Phyllis doing her community service it might work in favor of the character making some positive progress and being more sympathetic.

Imagine seeing her working with elders or recovering addicts etc and she could realize how lucky she is. OK Phyllis is never going to completely change but it certainly would add some depth to her persona.

Instead she's slinking around GCAC claiming to be a changed person with nothing to back it up.

 

Thank you for saying this. We’ve quite literally seen nothing change about Phyllis outside of she’s now no longer obsessed with getting revenge on Diane. Now she goes from the three places that exist in this town oh and now Daniel’s apartment, telling everyone she’s changed. 

Reading up on the history of Danny/Christine/Phyllis it’s truly absurd this man isn’t only merely civil with Phyllis when they’re both around Daniel and nothing else.