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Exactly. Our government has Barack's n****r cooties all over it, so we got burn it down and clear it away like the Black Plague and the Great Fire of London. It's the only way. [/sarcasm] I've said it before, and I'll say it again: it just might take another 9/11-like atrocity for many of these people to see just what they have done to this country that they claim to love so much and want to "make great again." That is the trouble with terror: it makes people think and behave illogically. Slasher film franchises are built upon this concept. Please be safe, Huntress. My thoughts and prayers go out to all who have been affected by the Berlin attack. Agree. Agree, agree, and agree.

Wow. Violence erupts in Ankara, Berlin and Zurich; the judge who gave a college student a six-month sentence for rape is cleared of misconduct; and the nation's electors put party affiliations and hide-saving over protecting us from a con-artist who will sell us to Russia first chance he gets. Worst Monday ever for my new, least-favorite soap opera, AS THE WORLD TURNS TO CRAP. At this point, I wouldn't bother finding out where they stand on anything. Just learn what Putin thinks about any situation and then know the GOP and Trump will fall in line.

It's going to be a long, long, L-O-N-G four years.

Yep. IIRC -- and granted, I wasn't alive back then; and what I know, I learned at one of those race-mixing, God-hating, icky-poo public schools certain people hate nowadays -- but the U.S. government actually wanted to stay out of WWII at first. We became involved only after the Japanese had bombed Pearl Harbor. As usual, I agree with y'all: images and sounds coming out of Aleppo are saddening and terrifying. However, short of allowing more refugees into our borders (which we are clearly not going to do at this point), I don't know what more we could do or should have done to help them. Some wars, you just can't win; and some people, you just can't help.

That's our boy Trump, making America grate again.

"The biggest event in American history"? Oh, dear. People really don't need to get their hopes up.

Thank God. So, out of this crack-tacular year, two good things happened: the Cubs won the World Series, and Dylann Roof was found guilty. As far as I am concerned, this is our Christmas miracle. True. A perfect example: the murder-for-hire trial that was declared a mistrial for the SECOND time.

Once again, DJT distracts America from whatever is the Dumpster Fire of the Week (I'm guessing Russian hacking).

Agree. Agree with this as well.

I only wish this would change things. But it won't. Dammit.

You know what they say: "the good ones are always married, straight (or gay), or affiliated with the KKK." Whatever gets you through the nights.

Something tells me you aren't his type.

Help us, Obi Wan Kenobi, you're our only hope.

IA, Carl. When it comes to our president-elect, it seems, there are only so many trainwrecks and potential trainwrecks that the media can cover. Trump is going to keep a lot of folks on their toes for the next four years, that's for sure. Exactly. At the very least, Trump is liable to get us into a war with the most unlikely countries that would have been easily avoided had he just stayed his ass off Twitter. Let me put it this way: with Pence as president, our being alive past 2017 would be a lock. Granted, many people will feel like second-class citizens again. In time, however, that could be corrected. OTOH, with Trump as president.... Can we REALLY say for sure that we'll survive (as a planet, let alone as a nation) as long as that man is in charge? Because, I, for one, am keeping my fingers (and everything else) crossed at least 'til January 2021.

At the risk of sounding like an even bigger fool than I already do, I officially take back what I said several pages ago about being resistant to Mike Pence assuming the presidency. If "President Pence" is the only trade-off we have for keeping Trump out of the Oval Office, then I say, "Yes, please." The Democrats can always come back in four years and squash his bid for another term -- because, after all, we can't even be sure anymore that Trump will keep us alive and free by this time next year!

Since Trump has made it clear he'll skip daily intelligence briefings, I don't think they'll have anything to worry about.

In a way, Julia, that's the worst part of it all. Because, even if we receive a Christmas miracle straight out of a Pam Long storyline on GL and Trump is somehow blocked from the presidency, we still have to deal with all the issues that have cropped up in the wake of an awful, awful election. Blocking (or removing) Trump won't make go away everything that has been done and said since November 8. Because -- and granted, this is just from what I have gathered since the election -- but I think her team determined, rightly or wrongly, that those individuals did not reflect the majority of this country, either in terms of demographics, or with the issues that had concerned them throughout the election. As I said upthread, it kind of surprised me to learn that the number of manufacturing jobs lost in this country since NAFTA is relatively minor compared to the number of people who live currently in the U.S. It's just tragic that for a comparatively smaller group of people, their electoral votes ended up weighing more than everyone else's.

That's true. Black women don't give a s**t about likability. They just want you to do your damn job. Nobody brought you in it. At the risk of being even more unliked, I will say that that doesn't surprise me. Compared to most African-Americans I know or know about, I haven't personally experienced much racism in life. But what racism I HAVE experienced has come mostly from white women. And really, I am starting to think Black women are wasting their time. America does NOT deserve their help.

And I will lose. IMO, Black women, in general, know b.s. when they smell it. Regardless of the rhetoric.

The thing is, I THOUGHT Obama had learned that. I THOUGHT that was why he had issued all those executive orders that Trump keeps threatening to rip up and throw away as soon as he is inaugurated -- because he (Obama) had realized the other side would never compromise with (yeah, I'm gonna say it) an HNIC. Of course, leave it to Obama to exercise his power against unreasonable people by doing something that could be undone the minute he leaves office. The schmuck. Just shows to go you how ineffectual and inconsequential I always thought he'd be in the end. If we're all concerned that Trump could wipe out Obama's legacy with a few strokes of his pen, then maybe Obama's legacy wasn't that strong to begin with.

And yet, Little Jimmy Comey, who was probably working under orders from someone within the GOP, was allowed to re-drag Hillary mere days before the election without any push-back whatsoever from the Repubs, or even the MSM and many on the left. And all over what turned out to be nothing. Again. I must admit that when I read how Mitch McConnell basically blackmailed Obama into sitting on this information, I lost what little respect I had gained for our outgoing president. I understand Obama's belief in the so-called "better angels of our nature" and that individuals CAN work toward a consensus if we appeal to their sense of reason. But there comes a time when, as a leader, you have to set aside the Arthurian ideals and just do the damn thing, and to hell with the consequences. McConnell (and others) want to accuse President P-Funk of partisanship? Whatevs, man. We'll deal with that AFTER we let America know what the frak Putin is up to. Frankly, Mr. President, if you haven't learned by now that the GOP will resist anything you even THINK about doing or saying -- even if it means putting the safety of this country in jeopardy -- because it's you who is doing the doing or the saying, then I don't know what to tell you. Except maybe, just maybe, I was right all along and you weren't cut out for this job. And yes, we have officially made ourselves Putin's bitch. But you know something? Sometimes we get what we deserve.

"BUT THE EMAILS! DO NOT FORGET ABOUT THE EMAILS! FOUR PEOPLE DIED BECAUSE OF HILLARY CLINTON'S EMAILS! AND HER HUSBAND IS AN AMORAL LETCH! AND THEY HAVE TAKEN MONEY FROM WALL STREET! WITH HER EMAILS!"

But they won't. Some might do the right thing, of course, but it won't be enough. We're just fucked. You wouldn't think someone as wealthy as Trump is would BE so...susceptible. I know I will never watch his cameo in "Judith Krantz's 'I'll Take Manhattan'" the same way again.

But they won't -- and even if they try, no one will believe them. Especially not those who don't trust the Liberal Media no matter what.

Wouldn't it be funny if we were to learn Donald Trump had been nothing more than a puppet for Vladimir Putin and the Russian government? I mean, we've been saying all along that that narcissistic bastard is not fit to run the country. But if we were to discover he was played just as much we were, and by darker forces.... Don't get me wrong -- there's every chance in the world that TrumpCo. knew about Russia's intentions and either actively cooperated or just looked the other way. But think about it: Russia interferes with the election process in order to get Trump elected, but Trump believes he's president-elect because the nation genuinely loves him (until, of course, he learns that's actually not the case). That would be funny, right? Well, I know I would laugh. Donald Trump would end up looking like a fat, empty-headed stooge, and I would be laughing and slow-clapping the whole damn time.