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Amen. And in the meantime, I need more Grande Dame in those Potomac promos! Mmhmm... Erika would be nothing and nowhere without Daddy Warbucks' checkbook. Agreed on Portia, surprisingly. She gave me the giggles for all three parts. And her on-the-spot prayer was pretty solid. Ditto @Faulkner on LOLing at “Nooo. Not Claire’s. They closed” I actually don't mind Eva. I don't know if I necessarily understand her house-hopping, but I don't really care that much to question it. She's got a house, which is more than we could say about Sheree for years. Tanya is okay but she comes off as a little too thirsty/wannabe to me. Shamari's only highlight was watching her and Kandi as two lil' hens cackling on the end of the couch. Otherwise, bye... Then there's Nene..... yeah, she's got the star power and is the biggest face on the show, but geez, she vacuums all the air out of every room she walks into.

At this point, I wish there was a law preventing someone over the age of 70 to run in a presidential election or [re-election].

Me too, Lois, me too (no pun intended...) Camille came off unhinged in last night's episode. I get she's been a victim of terrible lies in the press, but she can't put herself in the same category as Christine Blasey Ford. In order for me to maintain my overall appreciation for Miss Donatacci Grammer, I'm going to chalk it up to pre-wedding emotions mixed with overly inebriated. Kim AND Kathy at the same restaurant as the RHOBH ladies was funny. I *guess* I'll take it as an actual coincidence and not producer set-up since neither woman was mic'ed up. I actually liked Rinna last night, in scenes with her family unit. Her goofiness and interaction with her mom is endearing. I still don't think much of her daughters, though. Enjoy those birthday parties with your friends instead of your aging grandma; I'm sure she'll last another year... LVP continues to be interesting all on her own...

She was never really *that* great. She uses cheap put-downs usually about fashion, someone's looks, or slut-shaming. What was with Nene's ugly comment about thirsty Tanya never owning a peach, and having a peach in Nene's p*ssy? I forget the context, but it was weird.

Agreed. Team Kamala. I don't think Biden's "scandal" will continue as the months progress, cuz all one has to do is compare it to the sexual assault claims against Trumpilstiltsken and the infamous Access Hollywood tape, and then ask, "which one is pervier?" Re: Bernie. Anything that chips away at his base is fine by me. There's quite a list growing of Democratic possibilities that I'd choose any day over him.

RHONY had me in giggles again. From Ramona to Sonja to everyone else, NY gives me drama but also plenty of laughs. It's not heavy like Beverly Hills. Wow, that Morgan house really triggered Sonja. That and lots of booze after taking a long break from drinking spells disaster for Lady Morgan. I watched some of Bethenny's live instagram postings back when they filmed, and it looks like a hilarious shi_storm of drunken buffoonery. Looks like Bravo will be airing some of their personal footage as well! Dorinda definitely cleaned up her image this episode and I'm glad she and LuAnn had that heartfelt moment, even though I have a feeling Lu *wants* to hold onto a grudge longer. Dorinda did her part, now it's time for The Countess to do hers... Three years in, and I'm finally genuinely enjoying Tinsley. I like that she sees herself as the baby sister who does all their bidding because, well, she is! It shall be "interesting" next week to see Bethenny go in on Tinsley's relationship with Scott, once again focusing with such intensity on another person's relationship and expressing all these words of wisdom as if she's an expert. "Do as I say, not as I do" is her mantra in that subject. These days, I like Bethenny but I can only handle her in small doses. Ugh at Barbara piggybacking off the infamous shark room drama. LOL at Ramona's digs at her... her shoes at the pool, the belly-revealing top, Barbara thinking she should sit at the head of the dinner table... LOL Ramona just cracks me up. I love when they show snippets of her and LuAnn together like they did last night, because you can tell they have an affection for one another as the OG's of the series who've been there every single year. RHOBH I echo what everyone has said... I didn't care for Camille's dig against LVP but appreciate the apology... I loved LVP on WWHL and it's so clear she had other things on her mind instead of keeping some dumb "puppygate" story alive. She was done with it after her and Ken's dinner with PK and Dorit... I also noticed Rinna pulling back on the LVP talk, as if she's seen the light that their story is flimsy... I'm gonna take Rinna's apology and explanation at face value regarding the pills-on-the-cupcake photo she sent to LVP for her birthday... If that quick flash at the end is any indication, is next week the return of Rambles Richards? RHOA I hope they don't boot Cynthia. She's the calm in a sea of chaos. She may never be the *star* of the series, but she helps bridge the gap between a lot of the women, and she can stand fine on her own without a bff crutch like Nene or Kenya around (though I'm hoping for a Kenya return).

I've stayed out of this thread for awhile for the sake of my sanity, but just wondering what people's thoughts were on Kamala Harris? I really dig her.

I consider Dale to be like Kathy's Rosie on RHONJ. Dale makes Tinsley more interesting just as Rosie provided humor and wit for bland Kathy. I love having Dale there And yes, LOL to Ramona's tunnel vision not seeing her off to the side. It was another fabulous episode but LuAnn sure made an ass of herself getting all worked up about the shark room. Dorinda tried her hardest to accommodate Lu, and Lu was taking too much joy in asking for the moon and stars, but went all bonkers over a damn room. Next week with Sonja crying "you don't touch the Morgan ladder!" LOL Omg, she is delivering this season. Ahhhh! Where at? Re: ATL... That was my feeling about Atlanta regarding everyone but Nene. There was light shade but lots of laughs amongst Kandi, Porsha, Cynthia, Eva and Shemari. I got the giggles a lot of the time. I can't believe I'm saying this after all these years, but Porsha is finally one of my favorites. Marriage, pregnancy, and not being a THOT finally has me loving her. And she's just funny now without be catty. Her and Kandi are the MVP's last night, IMO. And then there was Nene, the large angry elephant of the room, determined to suck the air out of every moment. If there's one take away from last night's reunion, it's that the 5 other women they currently have (along with a couple others) are doing well and they don't need Negative Nancy Nene anymore. What a f*cking buzzkill.

That's what's the problem with Beverly Hills now: 71% of the main cast is just unlikable now. The only castmember with an interesting life all on her own is LVP. And as a newbie who isn't caught up in the petty drama, Denise Richards is also refreshing. The other 5 are sea hags trying to be Ursula. Last night's ending was juicy and delicious and I look forward to the fallout. But the episode also perfectly illustrated how pathetic these 5 women are, cackling about something petty and no doubt planted by one of them (I'd say Kyle or Rinna, because Rinna is so thirsty to attack LVP and she has a long history with paparazzi and rags, as adorably shown at Denise's wedding), while on the other side of town, LVP is doing so fabulously on her own, creating actual change in Congress, actually getting shi* done while the others stay stewing in fluff and mediocrity. It was a perfect juxtaposition of jealous hags vs. an actual boss bitch.

I fourth that! @Cheap21 Love dishing with all you guys and this is always the first thread I check out. Once I got into the Housewives (first episode I ever saw was Nene's "You have done me WRONG as your wife!"), I was so glad to find a thread dedicated to them here. I had otherwise gotten pretty quiet in soapland.

Another solid NYC episode. I'm guessing at some point Barbara falls off the radar? Otherwise, I don't understand why she isn't an official 7th castmember. Again, love how they cast people with actual history with one another. I'm still waiting for the day Jill returns simply because all her real-life friends (Dorinda, Barbara, etc.) have since joined. Sonja's perspective this season is so refreshing. She isn't harping about something silly (not being invited to the Berkshires) or picking sides blindly (she was a lil too far up Bethenny's ass last season). She's playing it Switzerland neutral and just provides light, airy fun commentary and innocent humor without getting too messy (i.e. showing her dildos in the dishwasher, lol). And how good is it for her emotionally to recognize that her townhouse causes her unwanted stress and she just wants to get rid of it now. Kudos! Ramona's reactions to her date were hilarious. I loved how they interspersed her talking head comments where she's checking off all the worst qualities she wouldn't want in a man, and the dude is clicking all those boxes. Her facial expression towards him said it all. I wish Dorinda would take ownership of her remarks against LuAnn. Both are stubborn at reaching across the aisle, but in all honesty, I don't think LuAnn is at fault for anything in this matter. It's a shame their long-standing real-life friendship has taken a beating over this, but it seems LuAnn is honestly hurt and wants to keep her distance, cameras or no cameras. Next week's preview had us ROLLING with laughter... Halloween at the Berkshires and Ramona sees a scary dark-haired goblin crouched over: "It looks like Bethenny crying." LOLOLOL

LOL! "Frankie D." So unappealing. When he tilts his head like a kindergarten teacher enticing his students to sing the alphabet. (P.S. They should've brought in Rick Hearst or even Robert Newman) I think Zimmer is sporting her "Rebecca" extensions. Or was indeed pulled right off the streets of New York as she was enjoying a lighthearted summer day. Wendy Moniz is rockin' it though. So deliciously 90's.

Oh yeah. I noticed. Pot. Kettle. Black. Yeah, that's the thing. Teddi was miss home-grown slice-of-life non-glam "accountability coach" last season; the outsider looking in, and now she's trying to play with the big dogs (no pun intended) this year she looks like a total poser.

Yeah that was pretty damn cute and shades of the fun Rinna. And the tea that the original Billie and Austin hooked up? LOL Sigh. More Puppygate and more Dorit propping. Eff that. Can't wait for next week though. Side note: my hubby laughed at the scene of Lisa and Ken discussing the revamp of their kitchen. Lisa wanting something that's already fabulous to be spruced up even more so; Ken fighting it but ultimately just giving in because it'll make the wife happy, all while he holds his lil dog in one arm. That is literally our marriage. I'm Ken. Hubby is Lisa. LOL

I'm glad Kenya's returning for the season finale. She's been missed. I can never keep track of Nene's opinion of Kenya. Last year at the reunion they were chummy going after Sloth Zolciak on the other couch. Nene's always so back-'n-forth with her liking/loathing of Kenya I can never take her seriously. I mean, she was championing for Phaedra to come to Andy's baby shower??? 'Nuf said.

LOL I checked that out after you posted this. Sadly, it's the only thing giving me giggles. I'm otherwise rolling my eyes at this whole nonsense. And Dorit is the "victim." Ridiculous. And I bet that poor turd never paid 5K back to Vanderpump Dogs for the broken contract.

LuAnn suddenly having beef with Ramona and not wanting to see her at the party seemed a little forced to me for conflict. I get that Ramona said a couple things about her at the reunion, but it just didn't seem organic (similar to season four when Kelly suddenly had an issue going on a trip with Ramona, blaming her on happened the year prior [Scary Island], which rang hollow and unnecessary). I love the Hamptons action too, and it definitely gives Season 2 & 3 vibes. Re: POTOMAC Oh [!@#$%^&*], that looks goooood! I can't wait for these silly bitches to return Everyone vs. Ashley looks juicy as hell. Love me some Grande Dame! Robyn's hair is atrocious. I think I might actually like Katie's return. Agreed, you know I live to hate her.

Re: BH: Rinna makes it harder and harder to like her every day. And this comes from a big Rinna fan ever since her original DAYS run and MP days. She's just a damn clown. Re: NJ: The husbands help this franchise round out the overall likability factor of this group. I like that Jennifer's husband calls her out on her own B.S. Margaret and her hubby are two peas in a pod and I love them. One more kudos to Margaret for being the MVP this season - look forward to seeing her next season. Re: NYC: I enjoyed the soft premiere. Good grief, this show has the "fortune" of having real-life issues plague them and have it spill out on to the show. I completely forgot about Bethenny's on-again-off-again partner dying. Plus, we have the ups and downs of the Countess from this past year... Sonja had me giggling over her putting towels up over her bedroom windows (cut to a shot of the restaurant patrons in the next building over looking in... ha!)... loved being back in the Hamptons with Luann, Bethenny and Ramona... Ramona's flirting is hysterical... I like Barbara so far, and once again she's a genuine friend of some of the ladies, so there's that organic friendship quality that NYC boasts versus other franchises... Dorinda vs. Luann is good TV, even though I think Dorinda is in the wrong right off the bat. The preview at the end was wild! Looks like another great season is on its way!! Side note: I mean damn. Luann is 53, Ramona is 62. These women know how to take care of themselves and get subtle touch-ups to keep looking natural.

Sunday nights on FOX... I remember it well. Wasn't that their only night when they first started out in '87? I liked Herman's Head. I loved when Maureen McCormick guest-starred.... good Christ, I forgot about Babes, LOL. 90210 really helped broaden their weeknight broadcasts. I think when 90210 moved to Wednesdays, that was the first time they included Wednesday as an offering to their affiliates. Parker Lewis Can't Lose, Drexel's Class (starring Dabney Coleman) ... ah memories of my childhood. Of course, Married... with Children, Simpsons, Tracey Ullman, Duet, Open House, etc. FOX gave me my Must-See-TV growing up, with 90210 and Melrose Place, along with Party of Five, Models Inc., etc.

The high-waisted jeans above the girls' belly buttons were my favorite. Oh, and Cindy Walsh's wardrobe in general. Sigh... I'm watching this show now at work lol The first few seasons are just so wonderful

Agreed. I keep waiting for John Stamos and Rob Lowe to finally start looking haggard but they're hell bent on staying young forever. Even Don Diamont is finally starting to show his age... slowly... So sad to hear about Luke Perry. 90210 (and MP) was my childhood upbringing, watching it when I was 8 years old (probably shouldn't have been, but I've loved my dishy soapy dramas since I came out of the womb). I'll always be Team Brenda for Dylan

Yup. You said it in a nutshell. Another spinoff for LVP? LOL at the double whammy for the witchypoos. First their motives are outed episode 3; and now the one that "doesn't show up to do her job" gets rewarded yet again. Bravo knows who the fans love. Even in those WWHL polls, anything supporting LVP wins by a landslide.

Agreed. That's when the decline began for me, too. That cold, flat delivery thing she does when goes on about being offended by some dumb comment (Eileen, Teddi last year, LVP this year, etc.) has grown tired and unnecessary. At the end of the day, to quote Ramona Singer, she's just not a "girl's girl".

Agreed. Her continuous garbs of dresses that look like over-sized T-shirts are neither cute or flattering. She's a clown. Apparently "the gays" love her, but *this* gay is over the schtick.

For. Real. It definitely seemed pre-rehearsed when she so swiftly "deduced" that LVP's employees were doing her dirty work. Remember when Rinna was a good actress? Last night's eppy had me fired up, too. I'm just glad it was blatantly obvious right off the bat what Kyle, Rinna, and Teddi's motivations were. They were so thirsty to bring up this "elephant in the room" that didn't exist between LVP and Dorit. It's funny seeing that trio getting read for filth in twitterland. Kyle is so desperate to maintain her dwindling fan base. Meanwhile, it's team Vanderpump all the way. We know her, we love her, and to see this strong woman breaking down over something so personal, and then to see those hag vipers attack when she's most vulnerable is gross. And Erika's condolences letter, perfectly snap-shotted on her phone. Okay gurl... Was that photo taken in your bedroom or your husband's...?