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It would be fun to have an actual legitimate 90210 reboot, but I like this strange new concept of a scripted faux reality of the actors. Not to quote a James Harmon Brown / Barbara Esensten pitch, but it's a "Never Been Done Before!" concept and I enjoyed it for what it is. I wasn't expecting a reboot so I wasn't disappointed by what I was getting into. And YES, a true reboot of Melrose Place would be awesome. I wish they had done that 7 years ago when the original cast got together for their Entertainment Weekly cover. The cast (at the time) had all aged liked fine wine. Poor Heather... I'm rootin' for ya, girl... Yeah, but "Roseanne".... Everyone's hoping all these reboots and revivals will get the same kinda reaction.

I agree. When I got into Housewives way back when in 2011, OC was the one that took me the longest to warm up to because, as you said of the current cast, there weren't many endearing castmembers to root for. This was the days of Vicki, Tamra, Gretchen, Jesus Jugs, and Peggy 1.0. Once they brought on Heather and then Shannon (and Lizzie!) and got rid of Gretchen and JJ, I finally gave a damn about the ensemble.

That was a pretty ho-hum OC premiere for me. First of all, YES, Vicki is needed. Love her or hate her, she is an integral part of this franchise. To me, she centers the show and without her, it was just a bunch of fluff, especially with Emily, Gina, Braunwyn, etc. Braunwyn definitely shows promise and seems fun. I'm not here for the Brady Kids + Cousin Oliver's antics, but I hate kids in general, and when you have newbies, the kids are turnt up for the cameras so everything is hyped. Give 'em a couple years and they'll be so disinterested like Joe & Melissa's kids on NJ Good for Shannon for dropping the weight and having a positive attitude! Much, much improved over her sorry pessimistic ass these past few years. Sadly, all that extra weight really aged her (just look at her first season!) but she's getting it back together. Kudos. Emily. Meh. Gina. Yikes. What is happening with this one? She seems to have taken on Shannon's weight gain and we're watching it as it happens. Her various talking heads show her getting larger. The peroxide hair is all sorts of wrong. She actually looks like a different person with the weight gain and hair. Almost like Meghan McCain... not a look I'd aspire to replicate. Overall, Gina seems like a wreck both on and off screen. I guess she's this season's basket case. Kelly. Ugh. I've never been a huge fan of hers or her personality. Too much Kelly on this episode. She cannot carry this show. But if she gets white girl wasted in front of Vicki next week, at least that'll be good trainwreck TV. I don't know what the Twitter feud is, re: Kelly vs. Tamra. What's the Cliffs Notes on that? Tamra is fine I guess. I always thought of her son as white trash, and seeing him as a Fox News-watchin' Trumpeter is all the confirmation I needed on that. I wonder how Eddie is doing, health-wise? He doesn't seem as muscular as he used to be. Overall, it was a very soft premiere and my interest only piqued when I saw next week's episode with Kelly being her sloppy self towards Vicki.

That was pretty epic. They left one lingering question about Damon unless there was a brief mention that I missed....? Next week's episode looks like a trans Sex And the City vacation! Side Note: LOL at Lil Papi always shirtless and flexing now. We get it dude, you've been working out in between seasons.

Braunwyn Windham-Burke. That is just too much name for one person.

Agreed. There's chunks of story/explanation missing these days. And one thing that bothers me: Why on earth would Blanca own an entire store front boutique for ONE single hairdresser, herself? Don't stylists usually rent booths at existing salons? Realistically, she would be spending A LOT in upkeep of that place (the products she uses; the products she sells, electricity, heat, etc. etc.) that she simply could not afford as one single stylist unless she works morning, noon, and night every single day. I'm still enjoying this season, but definitely agree that the first season had a clear vision and story arc to be told over the course of the season. No "agenda" or Emmy-baiting episodes. Just solid story. Yeah, I'm not liking what they're hinting at... the "daddy" jokes are one thing, but Ricky was showing lust in his eyes. The preview for this week had Pray Tell saying he's taken on a new lover, and the body shown looked young, firm, and taut much like Ricky....

Dear God that was painful and cringeworthy. Reeked of damage control. "Ooh you look so toned in that dress after your work out." Whatevs Mikey, you're thinking of Juan's booty. Ashley's quest to reunite with her father would serve her better next year or some other season. This half-assed attempt right now is just diverting attention to something else, like a presidential tweet. No one who is 100% genuine would put their estranged parent on the spot with cameras ready to film and 1 million viewers ready to cast judgment.

Looks like Robyn is finally ticked that Gizelle is stirring up ish at her event (are they trying to unload that house she's been working on forever?) Yeah, but what did Katie DO? Besides looking bewildered, confused, and mixing medications? The chick didn't even know what last night's event was for! That girl is a MESS!!

I know a spot that has DAYS complete episodes from 1993 through August 1995... I just need that to expand through somewhere in '97 when it started going downhill. The Aremid era is my all-time fave.

Yeah. The whole vibe of this episode was off. And the end, those heifers pretending they've forged some special friendships out of this series. Puh-lease. We know how many f-cks Erika gives ("None, not one, zero, zero, zero, done!"), and Denise could easily be a one-and-done if Bravo decided to, and the other 5 wouldn't keep in touch with her. Rinna seated next to Andy is baffling, too. What DID she do all season except ponder how on earth her daughter could develop an eating disorder, while basically admitting she herself goes through periods of not eating much? Duh... Camille's breakdown was strange, but mostly understandable given what she's gone through (I hope her mom is doing better... any word on her health?), but yet she was all smiles a couple weeks back on WWHL, after the reunion was taped, so who knows about next season....? Anyhoo, even though RHOBH started this year's season in February, it felt like it was on forever. The only thing I have to say is I look forward to seeing what casting news develops in the coming months because Bravo execs surely can see the toxicity of this clan.

Ooh, you're right in the thick of my favorite era, around January 1996. P.S. Where are you watching these? The Youtube Jarlenafan (or something) used to have the entire Aremid storyline up until it was all yanked down. Would love to see it, as well full episodes of that time, again.

That still cracks me up when I think about it. Thanks to it, I'm jamming to "Sending All My Love" by Linear for the first time in decades

That's hilarious! Admittedly though, I kinda wish Melissa Gorga would go away. Also, those "new and improved" 70 calorie Fiber One bars taste like [!@#$%^&*]! I have bought these for years now and I will gladly consume an extra 20 calories if they would bring back the 90 calorie bars that actually had flavor and didn't taste like a dry, tasteless knockoff brand. And that's *my* consumer feedback

Yaasss mama! Stick it to Kyle. She would HATE this...

She is so dead behind the eyes.

Agreed on that. The story arcs seem to get rushed towards the end of each episode. For instance, all that build-up with what Patti LuPone's character was doing behind Blanca's back, and then her reaction when finding out was literally a two-second scene. Same with Ricky and Damon's quest to make it big, first via Madonna back-up dancers and then on the TV show. It felt very rushed at the end with little reaction among the house family. Also, as a result, you have many characters doing basically nothing for multiple episodes until "their" episode comes up.

I think next season without LVP will be more telling of the ratings, if they keep the remaining cast intact. Similarly, NYC's Season 4 was their 2nd highest rated season overall, and their first reunion night (It was two 90-minute airings that year) garnered good numbers, yet they saw the writing on the wall and retooled the show for season 5.

Agreed 100%. This is 10 times worse than NYC's Season 4 Reunion, which at the time was considered dark and ugly. That was a cakewalk in comparison to last night! I loved that Camille said the women were invited to her wedding because of production urging and would NOT have been invited otherwise. A double-burn for Kyle who was a bridesmaid!!! LOL The "friendship" they developed between seasons 2 through 8 is dead again!

Right? lol I loved the recreation of Solid Gold. I had never even heard of it before but died when I checked out the original on YouTube. God bless the 80's and early 90's... lol

Ashley's new look. Just no. No, no, no. Candiace looks like she's 55 trying to pass herself off as 30 even though she IS 30. Way too much paint on that face.

Yeah, that struck me odd too, especially when Dorinda and Sonja continued to press about it even after Tinsley explained that her trust "allowance" was temporarily reduced after her arrest. We *get* that Tinsley comes from old money. Why question how she's paying for expensive bags and dresses? It's kinda a no brainer and I'm not even in her social circle. It's also a little strange they'd allow to "break for fourth wall" in terms of Tinsley's living arrangement. Clearly, her living with Sonja was a temporary situation done for the sake of filming the show in her first season. Since then, she's been living in a hotel, and now she just signed a one-year lease (translation: she'll be on next season's RHONY). Otherwise, it sounds like she's in Florida. Unless Bethenny is trying to nudge her off the show now too, why bring it up at the reunion on camera? Interesting tidbit from Carole about the whole ordeal with her staying with Tinsley instead of Bethenny at the Hamptons at the behest of Bravo producers. Ditto the part about not having spoken with Tinsley since they wrapped filming. It makes her snub of Tinsley at last year's reunion make more sense. I guess that's the one downside of NYC: The 5 veterans (I'm counting Dorinda as one now) have such a real history and most have real friendships (though Bethenny's is purely strategic for the show), that when the show brings in an outsider, it's hard for them to genuinely connect.

Meanwhile, what is UP with Katie's appearance? She looks like she went to a costume store to play undercover witness protection with her bad wig and huge glasses. My hubby, a psychotherapist with expertise in handling substance abusers, thinks she was high the entire episode. Agreed that Monique is the sanest, most rational of all the women. Candaice's temper tantrums have grown old, and her lack of maturity really stands out. Well, I *guess* I can give Robyn props for recognizing that Gizelle was the instigator of this whole penis-gate mess. And I *guess* I can give Gizelle props for owning up to it. But meh... And the Academy Award for most stoic performance when all the [!@#$%^&*] is hitting the fan goes to Ashley Darby! Clink-clink!

Aw, Salem Place... The only soap with a permanent outdoor set. DAYS would use the hell outta that lot during the 90's/early 00's, including a *real life* outdoor park bench! lol It was across the street from the Salem Place set.

If Bravo had any balls, they'd take that final moment with the 5 (or was it 6? Denise is nice, but kinda just there) as a sendoff for THEM, and rebuild the show around existing OG's LVP and Camille. Bring on Dame Joan, Nicolette, hell bring back Adrienne or Taylor or Joyce for a familiar face and give RHOBH a much needed reboot. I have a feeling this type of mass overhaul would find much more success than NYC's Season 5 shake-up.

RHOBH: That 6-month flash-forward was so contrived and awkward. First of all, they mention LVP opening her new restaurant in Vegas a couple weeks prior, meaning this was filmed mid-April, and the show began airing in February. You could totally tell this was a mini reunion for most, having not spent time together since they wrapped filming. Such genuine friendships they've forged. All they could do is chit-chat about inane highschool crap like Rinna seeing LVP in a parking lot looking for spare change in her purse. And the vultures cackled. Really? This was their way of trying to save face and paint themselves in a better light? This table trash talk summed up the entire rotten season. I'm glad we got the LVP/Camille scene in Vegas, even if only as a flashback. It helped solidify how important these two women are to the series. Listen, Camille wasn't always 100% in the right, but considering who she was coming after, it all felt justified. The fact that Dorit is off the hook for the puppygate fiasco is ridiculous, and I'm glad Camille still calls her out on it (amongst other things, namely their crumbling house of financial entanglements). I loved Camille brushing off non-factor Teddi and sass-mouthing Miss "Own It" Rinna. Kyle/Rinna/Erika/Teddi/Dorit look like idiots with nothing to talk about other than people who aren't at the table. Teddi is the biggest poser, coming into the series as a no-nonsense jock who didn't care about glam, and her second year is a total Gretchen Wieners to Kyle's Regina George. On her own, Teddi is a dull loser that shouldn't return another season. Dorit and her sanctimonious crap can go eat a dick. Erika is as over the show as we are of her. Rinna, though I always will have a soft spot for her, really has nine lives when it comes to this show. After her successful first season, she let it all go to her head with all the gossiping, fake amnesia, and accusations towards others, and yet she somehow manages to come out smelling like a rose to the rest of the pack. RHOBH is actually making me kinda look forward to New Jersey returning and I've basically been over that one for years (thank God for Margaret!). NYC and Potomac are top dogs that deliver.