vetsoapfan
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This is giving me lots of memory flashbacks. When Jim told Mary the truth, that Steve was actually the father of Rachel's baby, she went berserk. It was actually chilling to see the usually staid, warm matriarch fly off the handle and shriek, "I hate her! I...HATE...her!" Jim and Mary, knowing that Russ was not the son of Rachel's baby, decided to take the funds they had saved, and donate the money towards Russ launching his medical practice, instead of allowing Rachel to have any access to it. When Steve and Alice visited Russ and Rachel in the hospital after Jamie was born, Rachel was vile enough to smile sweetly at Steven and purr, "Steve, meet our son James Gerald!" Right in front of Russ. What a bitch. There has never been a television character whom I loathed more than Rachel. There were four specific times when I got so mad, I actually swore at her through the screen, LOL. (Yes, I needed to get a life!!!) It's all flooding back to me now.🙃 While I always love when soaps reference the past, it does vex me when they don't do enough research to get the facts right.
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Yes, I remember that too: Meta acknowledged that she had "made every mistake a woman can make," in a vague reference to her past. That's the only mention of it I personally ever caught, aside from her recalling listening to Rev. Ruthledge recite the Destiny poem when she was a girl. I specifically forced myself to record and watch TGL when Meta returned, just to see what TBTB did with her. I was sorely disappointed, of course, which didn't surprise me but did annoy me. As you say, it was such a waste to bring back a beloved legacy character and then fail to mine her rich history. The sad fact was, after 1982 or so, the fans cared more about the essence and integrity of show than any of the TIIC ever did (other than Nancy Curlee).
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Jimmy was introduced and referred to on-camera as the Bergmans' son. He drifted out of sight for a while, and when he came back, he was suddenly their nephew. Then he just disappeared for good. As you say, never to be seen or mentioned again. WTF? Such incompetence on the part of TPTB. The show also dropped all references to Stu and Jo being step-siblings (their widowed parents married each other later in life). I thought this was a mistake, too, since the good friends then became even more closely connected. But at least TIIC didn't suddenly announce one day that Stu was, in fact, Jo's nephew!🙄
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Yes, it was common in the 1960s for young women and girls to be portrayed in a limited, two-dimensional way in films and TV. They were not always portrayed as individualistic, nuanced characters, but rather as overexcitable, giddy, and somewhat flaky. It wasn't realistic, but I imagine the audience was used to it. Think of the Beach Blanket movies, Gidget, or sitcom teens like Lucy's daughter Chris from The Lucy Show. Jacquie Courtney started out in this style, but somewhere early on she began to tone down the elastic facial expressions and became more thoughtful and realistic in her portrayal. This, to me, allowed her natural sweetness and vulnerability to shine through. "Less is more," as they say, and less mugging allows for more depth and truth in performances. JC's revised handling of Alice helped her grow into a daytime legend.👏 BTW, to illustrate what I mean about the portrayal of teens from the 1960s in the media, this clip shows what I am trying to say. The kids involved are fun to watch in this one-off film, but such larger-than-life behavior would grate on my nerves on a daily soap where everything and everyone else is more subdued. If Penny Hughes had been like this, she never would have become...PENNY HUGHES. @DRW50, your extensive commentary here was great. It's always a pleasure to read your posts.👍
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I don't yet know about the 1966 eps which are available now (yay!), and if any of them were in "my" collection eons ago. There was one memorable episode from my set which stands out in my mind, with Don Knotts having surreal memory flashbacks (it was well done for the time, IMHO). I was happy to share with the community, and I am grateful to see all the material everyone else shares.🙃 Trading digitally over the internet is soooooooo much faster, easier and convenient than it ever was via snail mail.
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Just to add: Alice Hirson's most memorable role (to me) was as the psychotic Stephanie Martin on The Edge of Night. She stalked and terrorized Nicole Travis, and ended up getting stabbed in the back and murdered. That was a memorable storyline, I must say. Whomever else she played in later years, Hirson was always Stephanie Martin to me, LOL. May she RIP.
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Yes, it was me. Many years ago, I had acquired multiple 1966 episodes of SFT and shared them with my soap-trading friends. Transactions were all carried out via snail mail at the time, using Betamax, VHS and (later) DVD-Rs when replicating the material. The kinescopes eventually appeared on Youtube after that site was launched (I had no clue how to upload to the internet, myself, being technologically limited, LOL) and remained up for a long time. I shared the bulk of my collection before 2010 or so, and by now (thanks to folks who are far more adept with technology than I will ever be) many of "my" vids are in wide, on-line circulation.
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While the mentioning of beloved classic soaps was nice, they clearly did not do actual research. The first error they made was announcing that As the World Turns ran for 72 years. Um, nope, that was The Guiding Light. Also, they were wrong about the creation of the soap genre. The first one was neither TGL nor ATWT. Clara, Lu and Em, and Irna Phillip's Painted Dreams predated them (debuting in 1930). https://www.oldtimeradiodownloads.com/soap-opera/clara-lu-and-em https://www.otrr.org/FILES/Synopsis_txt/P_Series/Painted_Dreams.htm This is as careless as referring to Mary Stuart as Mary Stewart on screen, when the actress died. Yikes!
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KMH was a bizarre choice for the role of Emily. The character became an icy mannequin, devoid of warmth and depth. Like with Paul Ryan, Dusty Donovan, Meg Snyder and Craig Montgomery, the core essence of Emily Stewart evaporated upon her being recast. All these faux, "pod" incarnations of once-complex Oakdalians became irrelevant annoyance (IHO). I would say that Jess Walton is technically a finer, more accomplished actress than Brenda Dickson, but she lacks that indefinable "je ne sais quoi" or "it" factor which BD brought to the role, and which ingrained her in viewers' minds.
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Yes, TPTB failed miserably with the recasting of Meg too. Thinking of all the recasts as totally different characters was our only option, considering how drastically different the new interpretations of the characters were in the hands of the newbies.
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It had been tepid for years beforehand, but to me, ATWT's heart was really gutted under Chris Goutman and Hogan Sheffer. HS' writing became cold, mean-spirited, and emotionally and morally bankrupt. It was clear he neither understood nor cared about the legacy of the show and its characters. The foolish stunt casting was painful to endure. None of the stunt-hired actors matched the quality of their predecessors, and because some/most of the newbies were poorly miscast, beloved characters were gratuitously decimated. Nostril-flaring, hammy Roger Howarth was a disaster compared to charming Scotty Holroyd. The once nuanced and multi-dimensional Craig Montgomery became smarmy and shallow when Scott Bryce was replaced by Hunt Block. Dusty Donovan, once a decent, upright young man with a moral compass, devolved into an unpleasant, grubby schlub when Brian Bloom was replaced by Grayson McCouch. UGH! THAT. WAS. EGREGIOUS.😡
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I agree 100% The show had been badly damaged by years of abuse, but there was enough of a familiar core remaining. The right PTB could have salvaged it, if P&G and CBS had given them enough time, patience and support. There was no longer any "will" to save Oakdale, alas, even though there was still a "way." AMC had also been badly decimated for years before its cancellation, but shortly before it was axed, the show's two best head writers (Agnes Nixon and Lorraine Broderick) were allowed to return and clean up the mess. They worked miracles with the garbage they inherited, and Pine Valley was looking up. It felt like Pine Valley once more. AMC would still be with us, had the will had been there among the suits at ABC.
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ROTF! And it's a pleasure to be one of those five people! Knowing I am not alone in my obsession is a relief!🫢
