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Many thanks to @skylark and @DRW50!

Yes, I know JK is getting on in years, but perhaps he and his family (wife and/or son) could work with him as co-headwriters on the new TEON! I would also be available as a story consultant!🙃

Once Johnny Dallas' cut himself off from Laurie Ann Karr and their son, and once Laurie successfully recovered from her mental problems, she wanted a new, fresh, and healthy start for the next chapter of her life. She legally reverted her name and changed John Victor's surname to Karr. After moving to the country (when Teri Keane was dropped from the show), Bill and Martha Marceau legally adopted Jennifer, the baby girl whom they had earlier taken in when the child's biological mother, Taffy Simms (and other bio family members) proved to be unfit to raise her. Jennifer legally and emotionally became a Marceau, and gave that name to her own daughter, whom Jennifer birthed through a sperm donor as a single parent. Et...voila! The Karr and Marceau legacies live on. 🙂

I truly believe Kellerman is a writer who could make a reboot of TEON a success! I'd anchor the show on Mike & Nancy Karr's great-grandson (now a DA), Bill & Martha Marceau's granddaughter (a police detective), Jim & Liz Fields' grandson (a psychiatrist), and Adam & Nicole Drake's great-granddaughter (a PI).

Jonathan Kellerman has written 40 novels centered on the character of Alex Delaware, with the first being When the Bough Breaks from 1985. One of the aspects of the series which I find so appealing is that characters grow, evolve and change as time goes on. They act and react in a believable, human fashion. While each book tells one complete story, certain relationship threads can continue as the series evolves. Occasional references to the past (from previous novels) also make the readers feel like we know the characters intimately; that we are "living" with them through the years. Actor John Rubenstein (of the 1970s' TV series Family) narrates the audiobooks, and he is perfectly cast. I've never read or listened to an Alex Delaware story which I did not enjoy.

I've been championing the idea of TEON being rebooted for years. One author I'd like to see helming the project is Jonathan Kellerman, who has authored a plethora of mystery novels about a psychiatrist named Alex Deleware. Like TEON's Henry Slesar, Kellerman is a master at weaving intricate and surprising suspense/mystery stories, but is also adept at characterization and interpersonal relationships. I think he'd be fabulous at writing for a new version of TEON.

As always, thanks for heads up. That is indeed Virginia Dwyer with Jacquie Courtney, but the actor (as other posters are mentioning) is Hugh Marlowe. The clip was misidentified on YT as being from 1967, but it's from two years after that. Hugh Marlowe debuted as Jim Matthews in 1969.

Gracias! I will check it out!😉

Oh, that's great to know. I figured it was saved, but thanks for the confirmation.🙂

It didn't surprise me at all that the soaps which premiered after the practice of wiping was discontinued have been saved, either by TPTB or by fans on home-recorded videotape. A quick search on Youtube confirms the debuts of Texas, Capitol, Port Charles, Generations, Santa Barbara and The City are still up and available for viewing. The only one I did not find was Sunset Beach, but I'm sure that's around somewhere. I have never seen or found confirmation that the 90-minute pilot of How to Survive a Marriage exists, but you never know. TEON's 90-minute debut on ABC, from 1975, is up on YT. Anything is possible! All in all, soap lovers are fortunate this many debut eps are in circulation.

I believe P&G wiped their videotapes through 1978, but starting archiving them in 1979. I may be off by a year, but I believe this to be the case. Of course, various episodes from prior years were kept (like Papa Bauer's funeral from TGL in 1973).

I figured Loving's first episode would have been saved, since the show began after wiping was discontinued. I'd say Strange Paradise counts as a soap. It was a daily continuing drama like Dark Shadows (just a lot weaker, quality-wise). Primetime's Peyton Place survived, and so did The Long, Hot Summer, so I'd love to know Our Private World did too. It would be wonderful to see the entire run! Thanks for the additions; I knew I'd forget some potential titles.👍 Thanks for mentioning the surviving scripts. I considered adding them to this list once I collected enough titles. The actual videos are perhaps more emotionally coveted, but the scripts being available to read is also a major thrill!

A fellow soap fan lamented to me recently that since most daytime dramas were "wiped" for decades, almost no debut episodes survived to be seen and enjoyed today. True, a huge amount of soap history has been lost forever...but we are fortunate to have uncovered and archived several first/pilot eps. I won't list every single show that began well after networks/sponsors decided to archive their material, but here are the golden oldies (and a few newer titles) whose premiere eps are known to exist today: --Search for Tomorrow --The Edge of Night (episode number two, not one, but still noteworthy) --General Hospital --Peyton Place (primetime, but a soap and significant) --Days of our Lives --Dark Shadows --All My Children --The Young and the Restless --Ryan's Hope --Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman ("iffy" to include here, I know, but it's soapy enough) --The Bold and the Beautiful --Tribes I'd guess that The Doctors' pilot survived, since Colgate-Palmolive kept everything until they sold TD to NBC, but I have seen no official confirmation of this. Does anyone else know of other daily soaps that have their first broadcasts conserved?

To be fair, Nancy Wickwire was fine as an actress, but after the ferocious intensity Audra Lindley brought to the role of Aunt Liz, Wickwire's more restrained, pallid interpretation was a major disappointment. Aunt Liz was just not Aunt Liz anymore.

To me, Wesley Pfenning and Linda Borgenson were the worst Alices. Other weak recasts: Margie Impert (Rachel #2) Robert Hover (Russ #2) David Bailey (Russ #3: handsome but bland) Lynn Milgrim (Susan Matthews #4) Brian Murray (Dan Shearer #2) Nancy Wickwire (Aunt Liz #3: a major come-down after Audra Lindley) ...to name but a few. Some of the Jamies were not cast well; Richard Bekins owned the role. On the other hand, AW struck gold with Beverly Penberthy as Pat #2 and Susan Sullivan as Lenore #2.

Mine is but one opinion, of course, although according to other GH viewers whom I knew, they didn't feel the recasts were particularly captivating, either.

IMHO, she was the best of the three actresses to play the role. She had screen presence and spark. Her replacements were adequate, but Gina became much less interesting after Stuart left.

But that house is not the Powers' house, either. Not to be contrary, LOL.

Thank you! I watched most of The Doctors' run, and I can guarantee that a family named Parker, who were allegedly "central" on the show for "many years," did not even exist.

Speaking of Valiant Lady actor James Kirkwood, Jr (mentioned above), when he later became a playwright and novelist, he turned out some stellar work. Aside from collaborating on A Chorus Line, his novels P.S.: Your Cat is Dead and Good Times, Bad Times are well worth a read. Both are mesmerizing and impossible to put down.

Of course, I cannot make definitive evaluations about any potential BH90210 sets which are being sold today. Without my personally being aware of it, perhaps another manufacturer took over the DVD rights to the show and produced a different, superior product to the discs I bought. That happened with Little House and WKRP, two series that were first made available in highly butchered and edited versions. Their later re-releases received wide viewer acclaim for how superior they were. I just have a feeling that if improved sets of BH90210 had been produced, I would have heard about it. On the original LHOTP, some DVD episodes clocked in at 37 minutes. They were supposed to run for 47. And scenes were cut right in the middle of characters' dialogue! The opening and closing credits of many eps were cut out, and the film was sped up (God knows why), making Michael Landon sound like Mickey Mouse. Good luck in your search for good copies. If I hear about anything, I'll let you know.

There are more than just "some" music changes, alas. And scenes and chunks of episodes got hacked away too. I'm not sure if any full eps are missing; I've blocked the entire experience from my mind, LO L.

Dear God in heaven!!!! Please read the disclaimers on the box(es) before you spend a penny on the BH90210 DVD sets. I had the entire series on home-recorded VHS, uncut and with all the music intact from the original primetime broadcasts. STOOPIDLY, I traded them away when the DVDs came out, because I wanted to upgrade the quality for future viewing. BIIIIIIIIIG mistake! To my horror, the episodes were badly butchered, with elevator musak and general junk replacing most of the original soundtrack. This was particularly egregious during an episode where the girls had a slumber party and were supposedly lip-syncing to some songs of the day. Unfortunately, with the songs being cut out, the entire scene looked idiotic. I could go on and on about the defects of these DVDs, but suffice to say, they and the first releases of Little House on the Prairie discs from ImaVision were the THE most badly hacked up and poorly-produced boxsets I have ever encountered. Eventually, Lions Gate re-released LHOTP in full-length, lovely transfers, but as far as I know, BH90210 never has been done over and fixed.

I haven't been this excited since Bradley Cole was rehired after being let go by The Guiding Light!!!🙃

Thanks for the tag, @slick jones!🙃